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red dog 1

(33,313 posts)
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 05:54 PM Saturday

Sen. Chris Murphy: "Here they are: our two top Iran negotiators."

Here they are: our two top Iran negotiators.

No diplomatic experience. In way over their head. Both with massive financial conflicts of interest, their fortunes tied to the Middle East dictators that make them rich.

What a disaster.

Chris Murphy (@chrismurphyct.bsky.social) 2026-04-25T18:59:36.900Z
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Sen. Chris Murphy: "Here they are: our two top Iran negotiators." (Original Post) red dog 1 Saturday OP
They pose in front of different flags too. pwb Saturday #1
They look like the sticks in their butts Disaffected Saturday #2
You don't speak for me! BidenRocks Saturday #3
Shemp and Larry Just Jerome Saturday #4
Who's Moe? Dave Bowman Saturday #13
Trump is Moe.. Resistance1 17 hrs ago #27
like... DoBW 8 hrs ago #32
IMO one of them has to be Curly Seinan Sensei 14 hrs ago #28
Deer in the headlights not fooled Saturday #5
Agreed popsdenver Saturday #10
The myth is that there is a negotiation. pat_k Saturday #6
Heard recently there's a giant traffic jam at the Panama Canal. paleotn Saturday #7
Even a competent psychopathic malignant narcissist would be better than the big blubbery baby psychopathic malignant ... pat_k Saturday #19
Apropos to you comment.... reACTIONary Saturday #9
The article raises great questions. pat_k Saturday #20
Well said! reACTIONary Saturday #21
Anything related to Jared popsdenver Saturday #11
Perhaps if MBS decides weakening Iran is not worth the price of regional and global instability... pat_k 12 hrs ago #29
AND don't forget popsdenver 8 hrs ago #31
"He IS the crisis." Well said! nt cliffside Saturday #22
Yep,turn out the lights...their partys over. BattleRow 19 hrs ago #24
Perfect avatars for the "Fake it until you break it" presidency meadowlander Saturday #8
Senator Chris Murphy nails it! Huge - COLOSSAL - conflicts of interest with both of these guys FakeNoose Saturday #12
What a disaster Six117 Saturday #14
Jared the Great is abating the Temple, greatly. Herod would be nonplussed. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Saturday #15
Two of the most inept 'negotiators' ever. spanone Saturday #16
The one on the left looks totally vapid. The one on the right looks like a Mafioso. flashman13 Saturday #17
Strait of Hormuz has a few beach resorts... but they dont have a trump resort IcyPeas Saturday #18
knr nt cliffside Yesterday #23
Bad for us; good for Trump $$$$$$$$$ nt SupportSanity 18 hrs ago #25
Business as usual in the Trump regime. Martin68 18 hrs ago #26
Jared "Trump Gaza Resort and Golf Club" Kushner? ColoringFool 11 hrs ago #30

pwb

(12,760 posts)
1. They pose in front of different flags too.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 06:00 PM
Saturday

They are the worst choice but Trump is surrounded by the worst. He doesn't know.

not fooled

(6,733 posts)
5. Deer in the headlights
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 07:06 PM
Saturday

No offense to deer, but...these two look as though they realize they will go down in history forever linked to one of the biggest disasters in American history.

That's at least some solace for those of us disgusted by their selling the nation out for money.

popsdenver

(2,457 posts)
10. Agreed
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:19 PM
Saturday

but more like the largest Criminal Syndicate/Political Mafia, by far, in U.S. History

pat_k

(13,570 posts)
6. The myth is that there is a negotiation.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 07:18 PM
Saturday

There is no negotiation. There will never be a negotiation. There is no way out with the felon in the White House.

Unlike Greenland, where he could just walk away in the face of resistance, there is no walking away on Iran.

He is incapable of negotiating. He just bellows demands.

Those demands will never be met.

The only "out" is surrender and reparations -- and the attendant epic humiliation, which he will not allow.

The magnitude of the damage to this nation and the world done by his Iran insanity is beyond anything else he has done. And it will get much, much worse.

Republicans are in denial. They continue to tell themselves it will end and everything will just "snap back" to some sort of tolerable trumpian business as usual.

But that will NEVER happen as long as DT is in the White House. There is no out with him in power.

He IS the crisis.

The only way to end the crisis is if he leaves.

If enough of them wake up and see this reality we'll see an effort to push him out. A push to resign for "health reasons" or some face saving bullshit.

It is not outside the realm of possibility.

If that does come to pass, they'll find they left it too long. It's too late. Many Republican careers are over. The party can't "live down" this level of chaos and destruction. And they only have themselves to blame.

paleotn

(22,501 posts)
7. Heard recently there's a giant traffic jam at the Panama Canal.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 07:36 PM
Saturday

Tankers from East Asia that would normally load in the Persian Gulf are headed for the US Gulf coast to load US fracked light sweet crude. Similar to what they get from the Persian Gulf states and refine at home. That's caused regular container ships and bulk carriers to pay much higher transit fees or get bumped in the queue. That's also frazzled supply chains and will be felt from food products to toaster ovens in higher prices and possible shortages. In short, Donnie went and fucked it up for everyone. And I do mean everyone.

My partner and I the other day likened it to telling a kid not to touch the controls. If you don't know how it works, leave it the hell alone. Now we have an orange toddler madly pushing buttons and no one's willing to stop him.

pat_k

(13,570 posts)
19. Even a competent psychopathic malignant narcissist would be better than the big blubbery baby psychopathic malignant ...
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 11:00 PM
Saturday

narcissist we've got.

reACTIONary

(7,235 posts)
9. Apropos to you comment....
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:02 PM
Saturday

... So You Want to Negotiate with Iran ... A bunch of demands on a PowerPoint slide won’t cut it if the Trump administration plans to engage seriously with Tehran's Islamist regime.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2026/04/25/iran-negotiations-compass-tehran-00891015

pat_k

(13,570 posts)
20. The article raises great questions.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 11:13 PM
Saturday

Tragically, there is no one in this administration capable of contending with such pesky details or headaches like reality or history. And, even if there were such people, the felon-in-chief only thinks in terms of "my way or else" -- and at this juncture he doesn't even have a coherent notion of what either "my way" or the "or else" is.

popsdenver

(2,457 posts)
11. Anything related to Jared
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:21 PM
Saturday

is a transaction, and not a negotiation...... benefitting him first and his father in law second........

pat_k

(13,570 posts)
29. Perhaps if MBS decides weakening Iran is not worth the price of regional and global instability...
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 04:29 PM
12 hrs ago

... he'll engineer another payoff the Trump family and Kushner to effectively surrender and pay reparations.

But even with a ginormous bribe in that direction, I'm not sure the felon would suck up the humiliation.

I think that as long as he occupies the WH, his psychopathic malignant narcissism will continue to be the BIGGEST barrier to getting the U.S. the hell out of this insanity.

popsdenver

(2,457 posts)
31. AND don't forget
Sun Apr 26, 2026, 08:31 PM
8 hrs ago

him being a SADISTIC PSYCOPATH on top of what you said.

North Korea, Israel, the U.S. and Russia all run by true Megalomaniacs/Psychopaths/Narcissists..........what's there to worry about???????? LOL

FakeNoose

(42,044 posts)
12. Senator Chris Murphy nails it! Huge - COLOSSAL - conflicts of interest with both of these guys
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:21 PM
Saturday

Even if they meant well - and they never meant well, ever - these two jerks are completely inept and inexperienced in international diplomacy. What can our (formerly respected) State Department be thinking?

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,140 posts)
15. Jared the Great is abating the Temple, greatly. Herod would be nonplussed.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:27 PM
Saturday

That other guy looks like monkey pancakes.

flashman13

(2,491 posts)
17. The one on the left looks totally vapid. The one on the right looks like a Mafioso.
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:33 PM
Saturday

Only the best and brightest.

IcyPeas

(25,651 posts)
18. Strait of Hormuz has a few beach resorts... but they dont have a trump resort
Sat Apr 25, 2026, 08:46 PM
Saturday

Trump is building golf courses and hotels all over the Middle East.

The Trump Organization, led by the president’s two oldest sons, has also significantly expanded its Middle East footprint, with new ventures in Saudi Arabia, Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Oman. These include a Trump International Hotel & Tower in Dubai, a golf resort in Doha with Qatar’s sovereign wealth fund’s real estate arm, a Trump Tower in Jeddah, and a hotel under construction in Muscat. The projects are partnered with Dar Global, a developer linked to the Saudi government. It's unclear how long the projects will take to complete.


Real estate dudes Kushner and Witkoff are looking for property for more resorts or golf courses or hotels. Why else?
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