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Who choses not to investigate their own assassination attempt? (Original Post) Swede Monday OP
Didn't Biden DOJ investigate? RandySF Monday #1
Not really pfitz59 Monday #4
Details, details sarisataka Monday #5
Why didn't Trump call it fake like he does Kingofalldems Monday #18
If this was a staged event, someone committed murder. OAITW r.2.0 Monday #2
that was part of the plan for 1/6, so it doesn't seem unrealistic that something like this would be conceived & done themaguffin Tuesday #35
The individuals who engineered the theatrical assassination scheme ? magicarpet Monday #3
Well, they're hardly canetoad Monday #21
Oversight and investigations would hang the criminality around Trump's neck like a noose. magicarpet Monday #23
I truly don't think it was staged. Qutzupalotl Monday #6
By having actual fatalities/casualties it enhances... Wuddles440 Monday #11
This NoSheep Monday #19
And to think... GiqueCee Monday #20
It helped get Trump elected and Trump doesn't care about MadameButterfly Tuesday #32
This message was self-deleted by its author wcmagumba Monday #7
Trump sure as hell monetized his "assassination" attempt. sop Monday #8
We never got a doctor's report of what actually his injuries were, either, besides the pad over his ear Deuxcents Monday #9
Any plethora of investigations would confirm what we already know. A disturbed young man, . . . John1956PA Monday #10
Exactly what evidence do we have that he was 'disturbed'? Maybe he was only a prophet Jack Valentino Monday #14
The same group who set up Tyler Robinson liberalla Monday #12
Yeah! That story about the ballistics not matching his gun seems to have gone very quiet. Scrivener7 Tuesday #34
There Is No Way In Hades Trump Would NOT Have Been As White As A Sheet.... ColoringFool Monday #13
Someone who Staged it? A Cha Monday #15
Someone who doesn't want the whole truth to come out. Martin Eden Monday #16
The only thing he is scared of making it into daylight misanthrope Monday #25
Do you think the Biden Administration covered things up? Kaleva Tuesday #33
Is there an underlying story here, where Trump recently said he doesn't care to investigate that attempt? AZJonnie Monday #17
Exactly. The young man was clinically depressed, and his parents are from the shallow, MAGA end of the gene pool. John1956PA Tuesday #51
This means the Secret Service Enola Monday #22
Would it help to point out Biden was President at the time sarisataka Monday #24
Conspiracies are easier than the truth unfortunately EdmondDantes_ Monday #29
Whatever you do, don't suggest that it didn't happen exactly as shown... Orrex Monday #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Attilatheblond Monday #28
You don't agree with what the Biden Administration determined? Kaleva Tuesday #31
I have a problem. Kid Berwyn Tuesday #45
Please provide all resources and materials that the Biden admin used to make their determination Orrex Tuesday #46
So you are not satisfied in how the Biden Administration handled the investigation Kaleva Tuesday #50
Wait, does this mean we get to assign motive to each other? Orrex Tuesday #53
Trump called his political rivals crooks, and was nearly killed by a young man named Crooks. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Monday #27
He probably agrees with what the Biden Admin determined Kaleva Tuesday #30
My question: the SS acted in a way they have never acted before in response to an assassination Scrivener7 Tuesday #36
The SS was controlled by the Biden Administration at the time Kaleva Tuesday #37
Yes. And? Scrivener7 Tuesday #38
You haven't shown that the guy knew in advance about what was going to happen Kaleva Tuesday #40
So he was just randomly repositioning people from one place to another as an assassination attempt Scrivener7 Tuesday #42
Where is your evidence that he knew? Kaleva Tuesday #49
The fact that he did it. There was no reason for him to do it unless he had prior knowledge. Scrivener7 Tuesday #52
Joe was in on it, clearly. Jedi Guy Tuesday #39
"Controlled"? MorbidButterflyTat Tuesday #43
Also - Biden had to replace his assigned secret service detail with agents he trusted when he took office. Scrivener7 Tuesday #44
The corruption never ends! MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #54
Democratic presidents are responsible for the performance of their administration Kaleva Tuesday #48
Piggy has his bloodhounds "investigating" the 2020 election, FFS MorbidButterflyTat Wednesday #55
It's amusing that a known knucklehead like Trump is suddenly a criminal mastermind on the level a Professor Moriarty Jose Garcia Tuesday #41
Indeed. At least, to find out if there were accomplices. Wednesdays Tuesday #47

pfitz59

(12,823 posts)
4. Not really
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 07:40 PM
Monday

the 'shooter's' body was snatched up and disposed of post-haste. The 'investigation' quickly dropped off the radar.

OAITW r.2.0

(32,376 posts)
2. If this was a staged event, someone committed murder.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 07:39 PM
Monday

That, alone, ought to be a reason to fully investigate. The person murdered, was a Trump MAGA supporter. You'd think Trump would want the attempt to be fully investigated. at the very least, for the family of the guy who was killed.

Unless, of course, this was a planned event that got someone accidentally killed.

themaguffin

(5,286 posts)
35. that was part of the plan for 1/6, so it doesn't seem unrealistic that something like this would be conceived & done
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:52 AM
Tuesday

magicarpet

(19,008 posts)
3. The individuals who engineered the theatrical assassination scheme ?
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 07:39 PM
Monday

Might not want a formal, professional, or thorough investigation to ensue.

magicarpet

(19,008 posts)
23. Oversight and investigations would hang the criminality around Trump's neck like a noose.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 10:42 PM
Monday

He knows to avoid that at all costs

Roy Cohen taught djt well.

That is how djt became "The Teflon Mafioso Don" par excellence.

The law men can't catch him, the greasy pig and his dirty money out maneuvers them every time.

Qutzupalotl

(15,842 posts)
6. I truly don't think it was staged.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 07:50 PM
Monday

That kind of thing is just too risky. Ask the families of the victims whether they were hit with real bullets.

Wuddles440

(2,104 posts)
11. By having actual fatalities/casualties it enhances...
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 08:20 PM
Monday

the apparent legitimacy of an event that has been staged or designed as a false flag and is right out of the Putin playbook.

GiqueCee

(4,503 posts)
20. And to think...
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 10:04 PM
Monday

... that a president would not stoop so low might be forgiven under any other circumstances, but we ARE talking about a narcissistic psychopath named Donald J. Trump. HE wouldn't bat an eyelash at such depravity. And anyone who doesn't believe that is a fool.

MadameButterfly

(4,115 posts)
32. It helped get Trump elected and Trump doesn't care about
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 07:29 AM
Tuesday

people dying. So I wouldn't put it past Trump. But since he couldn't do it alone, I would think it would be hard to get others involved AND have a bank of supporters standing behind him.

Response to Swede (Original post)

Deuxcents

(27,359 posts)
9. We never got a doctor's report of what actually his injuries were, either, besides the pad over his ear
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 07:52 PM
Monday

John1956PA

(5,041 posts)
10. Any plethora of investigations would confirm what we already know. A disturbed young man, . . .
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 08:03 PM
Monday

. . . who in a sensible society should have never been allowed anywhere near a semi-automatic rifle, practiced with such a weapon on a regular basis and eventually aimed it at a political target. The MAGAs would gain no political capital from such investigations, since the crime was perpetrated by a member of a family adhering to their mentality.

Jack Valentino

(5,156 posts)
14. Exactly what evidence do we have that he was 'disturbed'? Maybe he was only a prophet
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 09:24 PM
Monday

who probably should have used a bolt-action rifle with a good scope, instead of an AR-15 knockoff....











Scrivener7

(59,849 posts)
34. Yeah! That story about the ballistics not matching his gun seems to have gone very quiet.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:47 AM
Tuesday

ColoringFool

(845 posts)
13. There Is No Way In Hades Trump Would NOT Have Been As White As A Sheet....
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 09:20 PM
Monday

Trembling, scared out of his mind, if this were a real attempt.

NO WAY WOULD DRAFT-DODGER TRUMP HAVE STOOD UP WITH A FIST PUMP, WHILE HIS SS TEAM KNELT DOWN FOR A BETTER PHOTO OP!

How people can believe that a group of men willing to murder in plain sight American Blacks, Venezuelan fishermen, and Iranian schoolgirls would flinch at a Blue Pennsylvania sacrifice or two, I have no idea.

Cha

(319,756 posts)
15. Someone who Staged it? A
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 09:29 PM
Monday

Wild guess.

Interesting, all this is coming out now.. there must be credible evidence that it might have been an elaborate set up... where 2 people ended up dead.

But, PEDO didn't have any scars. And doesn't want it investigated apparently.

misanthrope

(9,543 posts)
25. The only thing he is scared of making it into daylight
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 10:57 PM
Monday

is that his wound was more superficial than he has tried to say, and that facts lead to the conclusion it was just as likely, if not more than likely, from debris spread by an errant shot.

AZJonnie

(3,843 posts)
17. Is there an underlying story here, where Trump recently said he doesn't care to investigate that attempt?
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 09:51 PM
Monday

I lack context, clearly

One thing you know for sure is that that there was no way to link the shooter to Democrats/Liberals, otherwise IQ47 would harp about it all the time.

John1956PA

(5,041 posts)
51. Exactly. The young man was clinically depressed, and his parents are from the shallow, MAGA end of the gene pool.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 06:15 PM
Tuesday

Enola

(38 posts)
22. This means the Secret Service
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 10:15 PM
Monday

murdered the man who agreed to shoot at Trump. And they murdered the man who was in the crowd. And Trump and company felt that was just fine. People were murdered to help the stupidest, most immoral man to ever live in the Whitehouse. Sounds about right.

sarisataka

(22,721 posts)
24. Would it help to point out Biden was President at the time
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 10:53 PM
Monday

and there were several investigations...?

I didn't think so.

I miss the days when DU was a "fact-based community" and we made fun of wild, evidence-free conspiracy theories promoted by the Right.

Orrex

(67,249 posts)
26. Whatever you do, don't suggest that it didn't happen exactly as shown...
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 11:16 PM
Monday

or the cheerleaders will attack you for daring to question The Official Story.

Response to Orrex (Reply #26)

Kid Berwyn

(24,757 posts)
45. I have a problem.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 02:06 PM
Tuesday

For starters:

Even though they were required by law to preserve them, the Secret Service destroyed its phone logs, text messages, etc. from when the mob wanted to lynch Pence and Pelosi as traitor pedo choked the agent who refused to drive him to the Cap-IT-ol on January 6.

Orrex

(67,249 posts)
46. Please provide all resources and materials that the Biden admin used to make their determination
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 03:07 PM
Tuesday

Including all directives and guidelines issued re: the handling and management of those resources and materials.

After that, I will be happy to answer.

Kaleva

(40,391 posts)
50. So you are not satisfied in how the Biden Administration handled the investigation
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 05:36 PM
Tuesday

As you apparently have concerns that can only be addressed by a public airing of all information related to the incident.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,110 posts)
27. Trump called his political rivals crooks, and was nearly killed by a young man named Crooks.
Mon Apr 20, 2026, 11:45 PM
Monday

Freaky!

Come to think of it, he seems to have stopped calling people, crooks!.

Scrivener7

(59,849 posts)
36. My question: the SS acted in a way they have never acted before in response to an assassination
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 08:55 AM
Tuesday

attempt against a president.

They allowed the target to stand exposed before they took him away. Always before in these cases, they keep the president covered in case there are more shooters and hustle him away without any stops and certainly without any exposure. So the SS was acting in a completely unexpected way.

HOWEVER, the guy who herded the photographers to the optimal photo spot somehow KNEW IN ADVANCE that the SS would act in that completely unexpected way, and he even knew exactly where they would do it.

How did he know that?

Scrivener7

(59,849 posts)
38. Yes. And?
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 01:24 PM
Tuesday

Also, that doesn't answer my question: How did that guy know when and where to place the photographers?

Scrivener7

(59,849 posts)
42. So he was just randomly repositioning people from one place to another as an assassination attempt
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 01:52 PM
Tuesday

was playing out?

Scrivener7

(59,849 posts)
52. The fact that he did it. There was no reason for him to do it unless he had prior knowledge.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 06:58 PM
Tuesday

For that photo to happen, the secret service had to violate all its own protocols. They didn't keep him covered as they moved him away, opening him to possibly of injury by another shooter. When have you ever seen that happen before in an assassination attempt?

It was an unprecedented and completely unexpected breach of security.

And yet, BEFORE it happened, the guy knew to move the photographers to the exact spot to get the best photo of the secret service performing that unprecedented and unexpected breach of security, and allowing trump to strike his pose.

Jedi Guy

(3,489 posts)
39. Joe was in on it, clearly.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 01:28 PM
Tuesday

Just how deep does this rabbit hole go?!

in case it's needed...

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,641 posts)
43. "Controlled"?
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 01:56 PM
Tuesday

1. Democratic presidents don't insert themselves into criminal investigations.

2. The deadly assassination attempt that didn't take a chunk out of Piggy's ear, and left no scar whatsoever, happened July 13, 2024. President Biden withdrew from the presidential race on July 21, 2024. He and the DNC probably had other things on their minds, like screwing over our incumbent.

3. Piggy didn't have to be in office to "control" whoever he wanted to. Why didn't the hospital or the doctors announce what happened, what his "injury" was or how he was treated? A maxi pad and no stitches? No meds or follow up? Not even bedrest to recover from the immense emotional and physical trauma? Because...

On July 15: Piggy was fully functional (for him) and fully cured (praise Allah!) for the RNC convention two days later.

You can't just whip out, "You don't believe Biden???!!" without recognizing the actual history of what happened, and what didn't happen.


Scrivener7

(59,849 posts)
44. Also - Biden had to replace his assigned secret service detail with agents he trusted when he took office.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 02:01 PM
Tuesday

This was a good idea after a group of secret service agents appeared to have been part of orange Jesus's attempt at a coup on January 6. We all remember all the warnings to Pence to avoid getting into the secret service car at all costs. And I don't remember there being any firings after that.

The secret service was polluted by orange Jesus, just like everything else he touches.

Kaleva

(40,391 posts)
48. Democratic presidents are responsible for the performance of their administration
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 03:49 PM
Tuesday

Do you think the Biden Administration dropped the ball on this?

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,641 posts)
55. Piggy has his bloodhounds "investigating" the 2020 election, FFS
Wed Apr 22, 2026, 05:55 PM
Wednesday

But literally nothing about his near death attempted assassination?

Except lots and lot and lots of merch!

Jose Garcia

(3,529 posts)
41. It's amusing that a known knucklehead like Trump is suddenly a criminal mastermind on the level a Professor Moriarty
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 01:45 PM
Tuesday

Combine that with Trump's inability to keep his mouth shut about anything, it takes quite a bit of suspension of belief to buy this conspiracy theory.

Wednesdays

(22,877 posts)
47. Indeed. At least, to find out if there were accomplices.
Tue Apr 21, 2026, 03:29 PM
Tuesday

With all the crazy conspiracy theories out there, you'd think there'd be something like that mentioned at least a few times.

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