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Disaffected

(6,419 posts)
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 08:46 PM 11 hrs ago

You may be a defacto Canadian citizen and not know it.

I don't recall if this has been mentioned here before, but you folks in the US who have expressed an interest in emigrating may find this new Canadian citizenship law interesting:

"If you were born before Dec 15, 2025
and, if you can trace a direct line to a Canadian citizen ancestor (parent, grandparent, great-grandparent, etc.),
you may already be a Canadian citizen automatically."

All you have to do is collect the docs showing your ancestry and apply to have citizenship granted. The new part is that there is no limit on how far back your ancestry goes to be eligible. It is estimated there are about 10 million Americans, particularly those in or from the New England area and/or with French Canadian ancestry who are eligible.

Unfortunately this applies to MAGAts as well but hopefully they would not be interested...

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You may be a defacto Canadian citizen and not know it. (Original Post) Disaffected 11 hrs ago OP
My kids are going to pursue this Fiendish Thingy 11 hrs ago #1
I'll have to look into this... 2naSalit 11 hrs ago #2
Doesn't appear to be much to lose here. Disaffected 11 hrs ago #5
Indeed... 2naSalit 11 hrs ago #6
Damn. buzzycrumbhunger 11 hrs ago #3
You got me all excited, but it turns out it only goes down three generations. To your great grandparents. Scrivener7 11 hrs ago #4
nope, those 3 generations listed are under "examples" eShirl 10 hrs ago #10
It's a bit hard to follow but, Disaffected 7 hrs ago #24
I just discovered I've been a lost Canadian citizen all my life - I just didn't know it! Ms. Toad 10 hrs ago #7
See the link I provided above. My reaction was the same as yours, but it turns out it only goes back 3 generations. Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #8
Pretty sure it doesn't matter how many generations back. Ms. Toad 10 hrs ago #9
On second look, I think you're right. The wording is confusing, as they go into such detail about how Scrivener7 10 hrs ago #11
Here's the other thing - Ms. Toad 10 hrs ago #12
I'm looking at the actual form now - Ms. Toad 9 hrs ago #15
I'm excited Mordred 10 hrs ago #13
My mother in law was Canadian rambler_american 9 hrs ago #14
My father is 94, and he seemed kind of excited about the possibility of Canadian citizenship. Ms. Toad 7 hrs ago #22
Switzerland? AverageOldGuy 9 hrs ago #16
I have a great grandmother and a great-great grandmother born in Toronto. LisaM 9 hrs ago #17
Oooooh! French Canadian ancestry right here! . . . . (she waves her hand happily) liberalla 9 hrs ago #18
My ancestors taught in the revolutionary war James48 8 hrs ago #19
It's complicated so who knows? Disaffected 6 hrs ago #26
I have neighbors who are all over this Easterncedar 8 hrs ago #20
Here's a reddit FAQ for people looking to establish their citizenship. Ms. Toad 8 hrs ago #21
Hey, let us know how it turns out! nt Disaffected 6 hrs ago #28
Will do. Ms. Toad 6 hrs ago #30
Unfortunately I think I'm out of luck FHRRK1 7 hrs ago #23
So conceivably my mom's dad's line would qualify me Cadfael 6 hrs ago #25
Certainly sounds like it's worth a try if you can provide the records. Disaffected 6 hrs ago #27
Thanks for the info! I know I have Luciferous 6 hrs ago #29

Fiendish Thingy

(23,263 posts)
1. My kids are going to pursue this
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 08:51 PM
11 hrs ago

We moved to Canada in 2012, and my kids chose to stay in the US.

With this new law, they (my daughter in particular) want to get their citizenship. They don’t own to move here anytime soon, but it will make things easier tax wise when they eventually inherit our house.

2naSalit

(102,873 posts)
2. I'll have to look into this...
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 09:04 PM
11 hrs ago

I'm only about an hour from the border. Might be worth it. I'm getting pretty sick of the shit going on here.

Disaffected

(6,419 posts)
5. Doesn't appear to be much to lose here.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 09:18 PM
11 hrs ago

Last edited Sat Apr 4, 2026, 01:45 AM - Edit history (1)

If you are eligible, hopefully this would provide you with dual citizenship which gives you a ready option to leave if it comes to that.

2naSalit

(102,873 posts)
6. Indeed...
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 09:24 PM
11 hrs ago

There are some 1800s French fur traders and Native Americans from the Great Lakes area in my ancestry, I'll be checking on this.

buzzycrumbhunger

(1,943 posts)
3. Damn.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 09:08 PM
11 hrs ago

My grandparents used to go fishing in Canada every year for decades, and I did acute care transcription for a big hospital in Toronto for like 15 years. Waiting for someone to dig up a random rule to let me move there, too!

I’d give up Florida (and tourists) in a heartbeat if I could convince my kids to come with me. *sigh*

eShirl

(20,268 posts)
10. nope, those 3 generations listed are under "examples"
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:05 PM
10 hrs ago

It goes back as many generations as you can provide the *required documentation* for.
source:
the general consensus of https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/

Disaffected

(6,419 posts)
24. It's a bit hard to follow but,
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 01:27 AM
7 hrs ago

my understanding is that it applies to all generations as long as you can demonstrate a direct lineage.

Ms. Toad

(38,655 posts)
7. I just discovered I've been a lost Canadian citizen all my life - I just didn't know it!
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 09:37 PM
10 hrs ago

Apparently all I have to do is apply for proof of citizenship.

(My great-great-grandfather was born in Ontario Canada). Woo woo!!

Scrivener7

(59,534 posts)
8. See the link I provided above. My reaction was the same as yours, but it turns out it only goes back 3 generations.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 09:48 PM
10 hrs ago

Many of my great great grandparents were born in Canada, but sadly I don't think it does it for us.

Ms. Toad

(38,655 posts)
9. Pretty sure it doesn't matter how many generations back.
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:02 PM
10 hrs ago

Prior to bill C-3, it was limited to 3 generations. C-3 was intended to correct the situation for lost Canadians.

ETA: Now I'm finding conflicting information. I'll keep looking.

Scrivener7

(59,534 posts)
11. On second look, I think you're right. The wording is confusing, as they go into such detail about how
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:09 PM
10 hrs ago

they count to the third generation back.

Ms. Toad

(38,655 posts)
12. Here's the other thing -
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:22 PM
10 hrs ago

(Summary, not the actual text of the law):

Persons born outside Canada prior to December 15, 2025, to a parent who was also born outside Canada and who was a Canadian citizen at the time of their birth, are now automatically considered Canadian citizens from birth.

So my great-grandfather was born outside of Canada to my great-great-grandfather (born in Canada) becomes a Canadian citizen from birth.
My grandmother, who was born to my great-grandfather (a citizen from birth, by virtue of the first sentence) was also a Canadian citizen at her birth, making my grandmother a Canadian citizen from birth
My father, who was born to my grandmother (a citizen from birth, by virtue of the second sentence), was a Canadian citizen at the time of his birth, making him a Canadian citizen from birth
And I was born to my father (a Canadian citizen from birth by virtue of the third sentence), a person who was a Canadian citizen at the time of my birth, making me a Canadian citizen from birth

It is worded very strangely - but the immigration law firm sites I looked at all included "subsequent generations"

Ms. Toad

(38,655 posts)
15. I'm looking at the actual form now -
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:51 PM
9 hrs ago

and it only talks about claiming it through great-grandparent.

I may have to get my father to apply for proof of citizenship, then once he can prove he is a citizen I should be able to apply for proof of citizenship through him. Or I may even cough up a few bucks and consult an Canadian immigration attorney - since their sites expressly talk about successive generations.

It's been a fun rabbit hole, at least.

Mordred

(233 posts)
13. I'm excited
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:26 PM
10 hrs ago

As someone who grew up in New England and has ancestry that came from Canada in the early 19th century, I can be a dual citizen and enjoy running on Dunkin and settling in at a Tim Hortons!

rambler_american

(933 posts)
14. My mother in law was Canadian
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:39 PM
9 hrs ago

and my wife has been working the better part of a year trying to gather up all the required documents. Just one left and she should have it shortly. Then we have to decide what to do with it. Both of us in our 80's and too old to start over, but would really like to go live in Canada.

Ms. Toad

(38,655 posts)
22. My father is 94, and he seemed kind of excited about the possibility of Canadian citizenship.
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 12:38 AM
7 hrs ago

Once I get the documents together, I can just duplicate them for him. And once my citizenship is recognized, It will be a quick add for my daughter - who would love to leave the United States - but with $200,000 a year in billed medical expenses no country in their right mind would take her. But it looks like Canada won't have a choice. It will be nice to give her a choice of someplace else to live.

Kinda got off track - The point is that it is nice to have options, no matter where you are currently And it's nice to think about belonging someplace other than the US.

AverageOldGuy

(3,864 posts)
16. Switzerland?
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 10:57 PM
9 hrs ago

My father's parents immigrated from Switzerland in 1910. On my mother's side, my ancestors came from Switzerland to the South Carolina colony in 1740's.

Next time I visit my daughter in DC I'm going to the Swiss embassy to see about long-term residency, maybe even citizenship.

liberalla

(11,106 posts)
18. Oooooh! French Canadian ancestry right here! . . . . (she waves her hand happily)
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 11:17 PM
9 hrs ago

My Dad and his immediate family (Mom, Dad and 12 children) all immigrated from Quebec. There had been a 13th child that died very young... There were other relatives who stayed in Quebec. I feel certain that I would qualify.

This "new Canadian citizenship law" is certainly intriguing. I was looking into doing this during W's reign, and this was NOT available back then.

Most interesting! Thank you for posting this!!!

James48

(5,220 posts)
19. My ancestors taught in the revolutionary war
Fri Apr 3, 2026, 11:29 PM
8 hrs ago

And then emigrated to Ontario in 1800, then were displaced to the USA during the war of 1812. Back to “New York”, then what is now Ohio. Does that count? It was long before Canada was its own country.

Disaffected

(6,419 posts)
26. It's complicated so who knows?
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 01:37 AM
6 hrs ago

It does depend though on whether your ancestors actually became Canadian citizens after they emigrated to Ontario. Also, one ancestor has to be a "parent" (grand, great grand, etc.), not a ninth aunt, uncle or cousin or whatever as I understand it.

To start, you could try asking one of the AIs such as Gemini or ChatGPT, keeping in mind the results may not be totally accurate but, might give some further insight as to proceeding further.

Easterncedar

(6,289 posts)
20. I have neighbors who are all over this
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 12:23 AM
8 hrs ago

Maine's border was very porous in the good old days. Lots of folks here qualify.

Ms. Toad

(38,655 posts)
21. Here's a reddit FAQ for people looking to establish their citizenship.
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 12:28 AM
8 hrs ago
https://www.reddit.com/r/Canadiancitizenship/

They have documented cases of citizenship being recognized to the great-great grandparent level, and applications as far back as 10-11 generations were accepted for processing (rather than being immediately rejected as being too far back).

I also submitted a freebie inquiry to an immigration attorney looking for business - their response was that I was likely a Canadian citizen . . . then they offered to help me prove it.

I'm way more excited about this than I should be.

Ms. Toad

(38,655 posts)
30. Will do.
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 02:05 AM
6 hrs ago

The process apparently takes months, after you gather documentation to establish the chain. So don't hold your breath!

FHRRK1

(27 posts)
23. Unfortunately I think I'm out of luck
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 01:08 AM
7 hrs ago

Great Grandparent went through Canada in the 1880's, likely she were never a citizen, maybe a year or two, from Ireland ended up in Ohio.
If things get much worse I might need to dig deeper.

Cadfael

(1,371 posts)
25. So conceivably my mom's dad's line would qualify me
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 01:32 AM
6 hrs ago

Mother -b. St. Paul MN Feb 1924
Grandfather - b. Centerville MN July 1893
Great Grandfather - b. Gentilly, Quebec, Canada
December 1854
2nd great grandfather - b. Quebec Canada
November 1815
3rd great grandfather - b. Champlain, Quebec, Canada
May 1771
4th great grandfather - b. Champlain, Francheville, Quebec, Canada
September 1724
5th great grandfather - b. Champlain, Co. Champlain, P. Q., Ca.
January 1685
6th great grandfather - b. 15 décembre 1641La Rochelle, Charente-Maritime, France
d. 12 juin 1717Champlain, Trois-Rivières, Canada, Nouvelle-France

My grandfather’s mom’s family line extends back in Canada pretty much about the same..enough that Ancestry.com lists this under my DNA origins: French Canada 15% (Quebec 12% Acadia 3%)

Disaffected

(6,419 posts)
27. Certainly sounds like it's worth a try if you can provide the records.
Sat Apr 4, 2026, 01:43 AM
6 hrs ago

Nothing much to loose in any case.

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