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drray23

(8,777 posts)
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 10:50 AM Wednesday

The us solicitor, sauer is completely insane.

I am listening to his supreme court arguments. I am amazed they could find a guy willing to argue insane things on behalf of a child molester.

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The us solicitor, sauer is completely insane. (Original Post) drray23 Wednesday OP
He's just yelling his arguments crazylikafox Wednesday #1
Performing for an audience of one RainCaster Wednesday #7
That voice rivals kennedy jr spanone Wednesday #2
I know he can't help it, but its horrible to listen to him. milestogo Wednesday #3
More irritating is how fricking fast he talks. spanone Wednesday #6
Like all good con-men peppertree Wednesday #19
Both of them could benefit from a permanent throat malady dalton99a Wednesday #9
He's throwing lots of shit against the wall. He's very difficult to understand due to his circular answers & arguments. AnotherMother4Peace Wednesday #4
Thats because he does not have a case. drray23 Wednesday #5
He makes the lesser justices look smart. milestogo Wednesday #10
POS is a hardcore Trump cultist dalton99a Wednesday #8
It seemed like only Alito and perhaps thomas were sympathetic tishaLA Wednesday #11
If the "Originalists" arguments... GiqueCee Wednesday #17
Coke Can Thomas is STILL mad he was born black peppertree Wednesday #21
Doesn't mean he won't win lame54 Wednesday #12
He argued the immunity case and won V850i Wednesday #13
Presidential immunity for official actions was established by a 1973 OLC memo... CaptainTruth Wednesday #25
Sauer used to be a fairly regular guest on Thom Hartmann's show not fooled Wednesday #14
So -- here's a question AverageOldGuy Wednesday #15
Trumps own allegiance isnt to this country its to fucking Putin Volaris Wednesday #22
He also has "allegiance" to the UK (via Scotland) BumRushDaShow Wednesday #28
She will go to Tiffany's...the jeweler not the step daughter 😬 MLAA Wednesday #29
Hard to listen to, hard-to-follow reasoning Seinan Sensei Wednesday #16
At one point, they weren't. maxsolomon Wednesday #18
The law to make them citizens wasn't passed until 1924 (n/m) Soul_of_Wit Wednesday #23
His is amoral, unprincipled and unethical. City Lights Wednesday #20
What sad EnergizedLib Wednesday #24
Where is this being streamed or broadcast? LearnedHand Wednesday #26
Im watching cnn via sling. Nt drray23 Wednesday #27
I watched on MS NOW Delmette2.0 Wednesday #31
Hes doing the only thing he can Boo1 Wednesday #30
It is difficult to even understand what he is saying because his voice is so grating. yellow dahlia Wednesday #32

RainCaster

(13,723 posts)
7. Performing for an audience of one
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 11:02 AM
Wednesday

The court will see right through that. The questions they ask will be telling.

AnotherMother4Peace

(5,131 posts)
4. He's throwing lots of shit against the wall. He's very difficult to understand due to his circular answers & arguments.
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 11:00 AM
Wednesday

drray23

(8,777 posts)
5. Thats because he does not have a case.
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 11:01 AM
Wednesday

No logical coherent argument to rely upon so he is all over the place and naturally, some of it is contradictory.

tishaLA

(14,781 posts)
11. It seemed like only Alito and perhaps thomas were sympathetic
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 11:23 AM
Wednesday

To his ridiculous arguments, which were basically to assert what the plain text of the Constitution doesn't say what it says.

It really shows how phony this absurd concept of the conservatives being "textualists" or "originalists" is: it's a completely threadbare position that they're willing to twist to make the text and origin mean whatever fits their agendas.

GiqueCee

(4,272 posts)
17. If the "Originalists" arguments...
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 12:02 PM
Wednesday

... had any validity at all, there would be no Amendments, nor a process to enact them. They're so full of shit their eyes are brown.

peppertree

(23,357 posts)
21. Coke Can Thomas is STILL mad he was born black
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 12:38 PM
Wednesday

And he's on a lifelong mission to punish humanity for it - unless you're rich enough to bribe him, of course.

V850i

(125 posts)
13. He argued the immunity case and won
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 11:54 AM
Wednesday

That was even more insane IMHO than this case. There are some gray areas here that he can point to, while the immunity claim he made up out of whole cloth as did the SC with their ruling and the written majority opinion. I subscribe to a podcast called Oral Arguments which I listen to for most of their cases, that immunity one was a real whopper. This one isn’t as wild but yeah Sauer is reaching and trying to muddy the water with much of his arguments.

CaptainTruth

(8,203 posts)
25. Presidential immunity for official actions was established by a 1973 OLC memo...
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 01:29 PM
Wednesday

...& was reexamined & reaffirmed in 2000 by the OLC (Executive Branch Office of Legal Counsel).
It's been DOJ policy & practice since the original memo, issued in the wake of Nixon, more than 50 years ago. (See Mueller for a notable example.) OLC opinions, like the immunity memo, have been considered binding on Executive Branch agencies unless overturned by the courts.
Nothing was made up out of whole cloth for the 2024 SCOTUS decision, the legal & Constitutional arguments for it, in addition to the policy & practice, were 50 years old at that point.
Of course... where were these details published by our media? Nowhere that I saw. I only know because I've been paying attention to the consequences of that 1973 memo for decades.

not fooled

(6,684 posts)
14. Sauer used to be a fairly regular guest on Thom Hartmann's show
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 11:56 AM
Wednesday

He sounded just as insane then, making his con arguments usually on economic subjects. Hartmann would gut him every time.

AverageOldGuy

(3,849 posts)
15. So -- here's a question
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 11:56 AM
Wednesday

What does Trump say about DUAL CITIZENSHIP -- people who are citizens of two contries?

Much of the argument today revolves around citizenship and allegiance to a specific country. Where is the allegiance of a dual citizen?

Melanoma and her anchor baby Barron both have dual citizenship -- US and Slovenia. Wonder where she will go when Trump croaks (I'd like to get the answer to that question tomorrow).

Volaris

(11,717 posts)
22. Trumps own allegiance isnt to this country its to fucking Putin
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 12:50 PM
Wednesday

That prima facia makes the rest of this an absolute absurdity, I cannot believe the court even considered hearing this farce to begin with.
I want 13 Justices on that bench and I don't really care if WE are the ones that have to ditch the filibuster to do it.

BumRushDaShow

(169,819 posts)
28. He also has "allegiance" to the UK (via Scotland)
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 01:43 PM
Wednesday

where his mother got off the boat from... at least per some of the arguments (I think from Barrett as it came near the end of the arguments, when the CSPAN feed had cut off but the SCOTUS feed was actually still going but with no annotations regarding who was speaking, where an example was given of a baby born in the U.S., born from a mother from Ireland, would automatically be a citizen of Ireland too, and IIRC, the same "ancestry" option is available within the UK).

MLAA

(19,748 posts)
29. She will go to Tiffany's...the jeweler not the step daughter 😬
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 01:48 PM
Wednesday

Edited to add: Her 2nd stop would be a cathedral to thank God.

Seinan Sensei

(1,551 posts)
16. Hard to listen to, hard-to-follow reasoning
Wed Apr 1, 2026, 11:58 AM
Wednesday

Was he arguing at one point that Native Americans should not be guaranteed US citizenship?

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