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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHow reliable is meidas touch?
Is it the left version of propaganda videos, or is it reliable? I find it incredible that the information in this video would be true.
Apparently, we abandoned 13 US bases in the Middle East because they are being pounded by drones ? Our military moved out and is working remotely from hotel rooms. This does not seem credible.
If that is true, we are truly fucked up and did not prepare adequately for drone wars. I mean, this has been going on for at least two years now in Ukraine, so one would think one would learn from it and develop countermeasures instead of Patriot and THAD missiles ill-suited for this.
mr715
(3,542 posts)STUNS AUDIENCE!
Usually they make 30 seconds of content into 10 minutes of video.
However, since reality has a liberal bias they are usually correct factually even if they present it in a very annoying fashion.
QueerDuck
(1,690 posts)... I've since unsubscribed when they decided that insulting my intelligence, and fluffing up the most NOTHING of NOTHING BURGERS into a 15 minute video that could have been covered in 2 minutes. They have become the very corporate-greedy-money-machine media "monster" that they always complained about.
Pity.
mr715
(3,542 posts)I don't really recall if it was them or some other associated group.
When I need a quick political dopamine kick, I'll sometimes click their videos but I've been getting diminishing returns. Raw Story similarly presents articles sensationally and with so little content as to be the news equivalent of potato chips.
Agree with you, QueerDuck.
niyad
(132,302 posts)mr715
(3,542 posts)hlthe2b
(113,913 posts)reporting (mostly from others, although they do have a fairly high ranked former military person traveling to Ukraine and areas of the Middle East to do reporting as well. His name escapes me, but I think he may have reported on this military base story as well.
But, yes. The hyperbole, repetition, filler, often off-putting ads, and constant making of a 60 second video into 15 minutes or more has gotten ridiculous. I limit myself to the occasional view every few days and if they don't get to the point fairly quickly, I skim the transcript (Youtube at least gives that) and move on.
Do I think they are propaganda? Not really, but they do milk everything with more hyperbole than any of us should find acceptable. But it is still based on truth. So, that alone is better than RW media and MSM won't report on any of this at all until it blows up to their ever-embarrassment.
Escurumbele
(4,092 posts)Middle East Challenges: As of March 2026, intensified retaliatory strikes in the Gulf have caused massive damage to U.S. bases, forcing troops to abandon some facilities and work remotely from safer, often commercial, locations.
Did not watch the video, not sure if this is what they are referring to.
wnylib
(25,976 posts)13 US bases and the abandonment of them by US military, who are now working in hotels.
So the Meidas report US factual.
EYESORE 9001
(29,714 posts)dont hold yer breath. Another alternative is foreign media - BBC, for instance.
Ocelot II
(130,497 posts)They offer political commentaries, not objective news reports. And their video titles are annoyingly tendentious.
W_HAMILTON
(10,332 posts)obamanut2012
(29,357 posts)hlthe2b
(113,913 posts)it often gets lost in the hyperbole.
questionseverything
(11,827 posts)hlthe2b
(113,913 posts)Ukraine (and a short time in the ME) who touched on it but it was less than a fleshed out story--more of a "let's keep an eye on this." I will say I suspect there may have been some issues with high ranking leadership electing not to stay on base, but somehow I doubt 13 bases were vacated. NYT has the story, but I have not yet been able to read it yet as I can't archive it on a cell phone.
And you? What do you know/think?
questionseverything
(11,827 posts)Nyt paywalls their news so thank goodness mt reports it
hlthe2b
(113,913 posts)-both on the standpoint of bias and reliability. Hyperbolic clickbait may be the game on YOUTUBE, but it does not help the reputation.
OhioBack2Blue
(102 posts)....Soldiers moving / moved into hotels, causing US military to have diminished capacity.
What's with the attack on Meidas Touch? (No, I am not a subscriber, but JHC the enemy is on the other side).
Fiendish Thingy
(23,187 posts)W_HAMILTON
(10,332 posts)And, in this case -- as is often the case, from what I've seen -- their commentary is based on reputable reporting from other sources.
From The New York Times:
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Many of the 13 military bases in the region used by American troops are all but uninhabitable, with the ones in Kuwait, which is next door to Iran, suffering perhaps the most damage. Six U.S. service members were killed in a strike on Port Shuaiba that destroyed an Army tactical operations center. Iranian drones and missiles also targeted Ali Al Salem Air Base, damaging aircraft structures and injuring personnel, and Camp Buehring, damaging maintenance and fuel facilities.
Taken from: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/25/us/politics/iran-us-bases.html
PS - Are you confusing them with The Bulwark? Because the main founder of Meidas Touch has been a long-time Democrat, having interned for several prominent Democratic politicians (including Hillary).
Fiendish Thingy
(23,187 posts)Yes, the information in their videos may be accurate, but it is filtered/altered with emotional trigger words to induce the viewer to keep watching and click on more of their videos generating more ad revenue.
As others have noted, they make a 10 second story into a 10 minute video.
Bottom line, they are a business, and their business is manipulating viewers emotions on political issues to get clicks and generate revenue. This is true of Occupy Democrats, the Lincoln Project, Glen Kirchner, and many others.
It will be interesting to see how the Never Trumper sites pivot in the near future, probably right after the midterms. Trump will never again be on the ballot, and the Never Trumpers will likely want to find a lane for conservatives to reclaim power. If Liz Cheney decides to run in 2028, I expect Meidas, Lincoln Project and others to back her.
W_HAMILTON
(10,332 posts)That's all that matters here.
The rest of your diatribe is just you voicing you displeasure with the current nature of most social media political commentary outlets.
Yes, most are click-baity.
Yes, most cater towards a particular audience AKA they are biased.
But none of that means they are factually incorrect about something -- and in this particular case, they are commenting on reputable reporting.
blue-wave
(5,072 posts)Well I have some news for you. So is every main stream media outlet. Why don't you attack them? Everyone the world over is trying to hustle and make a living. But you are the one who is supposed to make the decision of who can and who can't have a social media channel that makes a living for them? Give me a break.
Our number one concern and objective should be defeating MAGA and restoring America back to a place of peace and prosperity for everyone. Top priorities, they should be front and center.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,187 posts)And some started out that way, but as the post-Trump era approaches, their model has shifted to focus on revenue generation, rather than activism.
Where did I say that? They are free to run any legal business they want, and I am free to criticize it.
Most Americans get their news from social media, and that is not a good thing.
blue-wave
(5,072 posts)that advocates for a blue wave in November.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,187 posts)But if you look around DU, youll see that many, if not most of my comments, are related to the upcoming Blue Tsunami, especially as a counter to defeatist Doomerism.
Escurumbele
(4,092 posts)of the filth that has taken over USA government.
You put it perfect, well done!
blue-wave
(5,072 posts)And also you backed me up perfect.
hlthe2b
(113,913 posts)But, if you read my posts upstream, I agree with the hyperbole and clickbait--problematic way to gain a foothold in the business, but given the move away from traditional media for news, I guess this is going to be the case for awhile.
RussBLib
(10,632 posts)Meidas Touch is not a never-Trumper outfit. Lincoln Project? Yes.
I do not believe Meidas is a clickbait site either. Clickbait infers they are intentionally deceptive, misleading, and/or sensationalist. Some of their headlines may indeed be a bit hyperbolic, and they may drag out a point longer than necessary, but clickbait? No.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,187 posts)It may or may not be deceptive, is almost certainly always subjective, usually emotion based.
The deception may not always be factual in nature, it may be a deceptive interpretation.
bigtree
(94,247 posts)...they're very mainstream progressive, whatever hyperbole that comes with that.
dpibel
(3,933 posts)Several people have pointed out that this statement is incorrect and that you appear to have conflated Meidas Touch with The Bulwark or The Lincoln project.
You have responded with your clickbait critique.
You have not corrected this initial false claim.
You being a person who demands punctilious accuracy would, I should think, hasten to correct this error.
obamanut2012
(29,357 posts)Very much so.
Their rather bombastic video titles are because of algorithms for social media sites.
Princess Turandot
(4,916 posts)MineralMan
(151,232 posts)I stopped watching its videos some time ago. I refuse to click on videos that shout at me with inaccuracies.
It is no longer a reliable source of news.
ruet
(10,276 posts)I can't sand the titles and some of the presentation but they are reliably accurate. I mostly listen for their new roundups.
Justice
(7,261 posts)They are taking the Gavin Newsom approach - mirroring exaggerated headlines of MAGA.
As others have said, story is in NYT as well. All of our military bases around Iran have suffered damage and our troops are working remotely.
Also, Scott McFarlane joined MediasTouch (well respected CBS News reporter). I dont think hed go there if not reputable. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/scott-macfarlane-meidastouch-cbs-news-1236544449/
czarjak
(13,637 posts)We did Iwo Jima!
flvegan
(66,266 posts)should have told you. TO SUBSCRIBE AND SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON WOOT AMIRITE
DU is still otherwise littered with this sort of shit though.
ABC123Easy
(275 posts)Ignore the titles of the videos......now those ARE very unreliable. But.....the content from Ben and his brothers is reliable and verifiable.
mcar
(46,052 posts)and on their Substack they spend most of their time trolling for subscribers.
However, Ron Filipowski is a good reporter for them.
617Blue
(2,469 posts)Wednesdays
(22,573 posts)If you can ignore their headlines, it's a good source.
SalviaBlue
(3,109 posts)I like it or not (I dont) there are many people who will not read the New York Times or listen to Rachel Maddow or even network or cable news They will, however, look at videos with this kind of click bait title. Since Meidas Touch are anti-Trump/pro-democracy and for the most part theyre providing real true information they are a benefit to the media environment.
I would recommend them to people who dont necessarily read their news.
PJMcK
(25,048 posts)Legal AF is accurate and detailed without being overly hyperbolic. Michael Popok is a bit of a know-it-all but he mostly does! He and his associates are lawyers so of course they're long-winded! Still, very good analysis-focused shows.
Under Color of Law with Shan Wu is excellent and concise.
boston bean
(36,930 posts)Scrivener7
(59,499 posts)Some months it's 3x.
We need that. Time for us to stop saying "ick" and support those on our side that appeal to very large audiences.
And their stories are well sourced and accurate. My feeling is, "Whatever you're doing is working. Carry on."
I appreciate them.
purr-rat beauty
(1,248 posts)But it is getting bombastic and Ben is getting too emotional but many streaming critics are and rightfully so. I appreciate they are bringing more voices to their broadcast so the variety is nice albeit similar messaging. Much better than TYT
Greg_In_SF
(1,242 posts)an entertainment source, not a news source.
carpetbagger
(5,484 posts)The news itself is usually secondhand, but the sources tend to not be fictive.
The presentation is hyperbolic. I think the emotional and sensationalist presentations indirectly misinform in a number of ways. For instance, you'd walk away from 5-10 of those stories thinking the right wing is going to collapse by next payday.
I'll admit that I prefer my news handed to me as concisely as possible, and if I'm going to watch something for 15 minutes I'd prefer to have some in-depth coverage and expert opinion. I'm old school like that, and loitering news-readers bug me as much as much as those AI-written social media posts with the choppy paragraphs full of blustery mind-reading.
That having been said, I think Meidas will improve over time. Charlie Angus is their figurehead in Canada, and he's a serious guy, serious about punk and serious about politics. I think Scott McFarlane joining in the last few days can potentially take it to that point where they're putting out more original and detailed reporting.
Doodley
(11,891 posts)JI7
(93,591 posts)But when you listen to the actual video you will realize they used clickbait.
I have no problem with it becsuse the other side does it although they actually lie a lot if times.
Many people don't watch the actual video..But they will see the title and image.
bigtree
(94,247 posts)...Popok and Litman are as mindnumbingly boring as they are informative, and many of the others aren't really news sources in that you can rely on every word spoken in advocacy to be accurate, like most talk on the internet, but they bring good info with their efforts.
But, it's SOLID Democratic, progressive advocacy. So they exaggerate a bit and are strident in their descriptions of republicans and Trump. So what? No one should care. They are progressive advocacy and I think they can be effective with what they do. Just not necessarily what I'm looking for all the time.
But, ALLISON GILL (Mueller She Wrote). owner of MSW Media and hosting several podcasts, hosts 'The Daily Beans' on Meidas which I think is an essential for folks who like informative, up to date discussion of breaking news and other political stuff. A-1 podcast.
The vid you posted has solid info from good sources, presented in a way that informs folks who may not be as concerned as some of us are and need a bit of a nudge.
Oh, and as a poster reminded, you can also find Katie Phang's excellent podcast there.
AZProgressive
(29,929 posts)A lot of videos have clickbait titles and say like and subscribe but I watch Katie Phang videos who I believe used to work for the mainstream press. A lot of it is informative and reliable but I don't watch them too often nor am I subscribed but they aren't bad.
Iggo
(49,924 posts)I used to watch everything they put up. Then they started putting up videos every twenty minutes. Id scan to see who was doing most of the talking, and either watch or not based on that. Then sometime last year I stopped clicking on videos from people and organizations who werent talking about a couple of very important issues, and they were one of those organizations. I blocked the ones who were obviously getting paid to not talk about it. The rest I just scroll right past.
TLDR: Theyre hyperbolic and possibly a little sketchy.
Niagara
(11,832 posts)I will reveal some of the channels that I do watch and I gain valuable information from them:
1. I watch Democracy Docket by Marc Elias.
2. I watch Robert Reich.
3. I watch Glenn Kirschner
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4. I watch Brian Tyler Cohen.
5. I watch Mary Trump Media.
6. I watch Michael Cohen. Now I want to say that Epstein and TSF had a falling out over a bidding war of Maison de L'Amitié in 2004. Michael Cohen didn't start working for tRump Org in 2006 so I don't believe that he knew anything about Epstein. Medias Touch severed ties with Michael Cohen after a declaration that Cohen made and he fired back at Medias Touch.
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LeftInTX
(34,242 posts)BTC is predicted a "blue wave" for Texas based on the primary. I do not find that accurate. If primaries are predictors of general, then Obama would have won Texas at 65% in 2008.
67.84% of votes cast in the 2008 primary were for Democratic ballots.
Democrats: 2,874,986
Republicans: 1,362,322