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drray23

(8,743 posts)
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 01:52 PM Thursday

How reliable is meidas touch?

Is it the left version of propaganda videos, or is it reliable? I find it incredible that the information in this video would be true.

Apparently, we abandoned 13 US bases in the Middle East because they are being pounded by drones ? Our military moved out and is working remotely from hotel rooms. This does not seem credible.

If that is true, we are truly fucked up and did not prepare adequately for drone wars. I mean, this has been going on for at least two years now in Ukraine, so one would think one would learn from it and develop countermeasures instead of Patriot and THAD missiles ill-suited for this.


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How reliable is meidas touch? (Original Post) drray23 Thursday OP
MAJOR hyperbole in every headline mr715 Thursday #1
I loved them at first. I was one of the subscribers that helped them to reach their first million. HOWEVER... QueerDuck Thursday #4
I want to say they made good ads. mr715 Thursday #5
The Lincoln Project may be what you are thinking with the political ads. niyad Thursday #28
It is, you are correct. mr715 Thursday #32
Yes. The hyperbole and clickbaiting is annoying as hell. That said, they BASE their stories on true hlthe2b Thursday #23
I googled it, and this is what showed: Escurumbele Thursday #46
Other media outlets are also reporting the damage of wnylib Friday #57
If you're waiting for the lickspittle corporate media to corroborate EYESORE 9001 Thursday #2
Not especially, at least according to this: Ocelot II Thursday #3
Also according to that, MS NOW is more biased than Fox News. W_HAMILTON Thursday #7
They are very reliable obamanut2012 Thursday #10
I do find there is at least some level of truthful reporting upon which they base their videos, but hlthe2b Thursday #26
So out of curiosity, did you know we (usa) has abandoned 13 bases because of drone attacks? questionseverything Thursday #35
THey have a former military official who has a show on the network who just retruned from hlthe2b Thursday #37
I hadn't seen it before this video, I think mt is a pretty important website questionseverything Thursday #39
I think their titles alone probably earned their rating based on their criteria hlthe2b Thursday #25
13 US bases 'uninhabitable' after Iran strikes -- New York Times reporting this. Is that better for you? OhioBack2Blue Thursday #6
Clickbait site run by Never-Trump conservatives. Nt Fiendish Thingy Thursday #8
That doesn't make them wrong. W_HAMILTON Thursday #12
Meidas is not a news source, they are a clickbait site Fiendish Thingy Thursday #16
"Yes, the information in their videos may be accurate" W_HAMILTON Thursday #18
Your argument is that they are a business? blue-wave Thursday #21
Many people perceive these sites as Public Service/Activist organizations Fiendish Thingy Thursday #34
I still see nothing in your comments blue-wave Friday #48
This thread isn't about the blue wave in November Fiendish Thingy Friday #53
Well said...There is one goal only, that of helping the USA become what it was and better, and to do that we must get ri Escurumbele Thursday #47
Thank you blue-wave Friday #49
Some of the newer 'hires' maybe but not the Meidas Brothers. They have always been Dems. hlthe2b Thursday #27
I do not believe you are correct about Meidas RussBLib Thursday #40
Clickbait is content that uses trigger words to get you to click Fiendish Thingy Thursday #44
actually, Ben and his brothers aren't the prototype anti-Trumpers. bigtree Friday #51
Are you going to correct this? dpibel Friday #54
Yes, they are reliable obamanut2012 Thursday #9
There's an LBN thread on this (the bases, not Meidas Touch) with an article fron the NYT.. Princess Turandot Thursday #11
It has joined the YouTube Clickbait Wars. MineralMan Thursday #13
"ALL HELL IS BREAKING LOOSE." ruet Thursday #14
The substance is usually good but the hype is not Justice Thursday #15
But... czarjak Thursday #17
The big yellow arrow, all caps and multiple exclamation points flvegan Thursday #19
I've found them to be VERY reliable. ABC123Easy Thursday #20
I will never click on one of those overly dramatic vids mcar Thursday #22
MTN is very good but the headlines are max clickbait. Substance is good though. 617Blue Thursday #24
Their information is good, but their headlines are exaggerated to the point of distortion. Wednesdays Thursday #29
They are appealing to a certain demographic. SalviaBlue Thursday #30
The affiliated channels are very good PJMcK Thursday #31
I am not a fan. boston bean Thursday #33
The tactics everyone is complaining about have gotten them 2x as many listeners as Joe Rogan. Scrivener7 Thursday #36
I trust them purr-rat beauty Thursday #38
They are Greg_In_SF Thursday #41
Mixed bag. carpetbagger Thursday #42
Meidas is very reliable. They report what is already published. Nothing fake. Doodley Thursday #43
It's clickbait but what they actually report is the truth JI7 Thursday #45
a little clickbaity bigtree Friday #50
I think their content is fine AZProgressive Friday #52
There's truth in their videos, but the headlines are pretty much bullshit. Iggo Friday #55
I don't view Medias Touch as it reminds me of Occupy Democrats with the clickbait titles Niagara Friday #56
Yeah, it has an Occupy Democrats vibe LeftInTX Friday #58
They are not usually part of my news diet for many of the reasons mentioned. n/t demmiblue Friday #59

mr715

(3,542 posts)
1. MAJOR hyperbole in every headline
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 01:53 PM
Thursday

STUNS AUDIENCE!

Usually they make 30 seconds of content into 10 minutes of video.

However, since reality has a liberal bias they are usually correct factually even if they present it in a very annoying fashion.

QueerDuck

(1,690 posts)
4. I loved them at first. I was one of the subscribers that helped them to reach their first million. HOWEVER...
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 01:57 PM
Thursday

... I've since unsubscribed when they decided that insulting my intelligence, and fluffing up the most NOTHING of NOTHING BURGERS into a 15 minute video that could have been covered in 2 minutes. They have become the very corporate-greedy-money-machine media "monster" that they always complained about.

Pity.

mr715

(3,542 posts)
5. I want to say they made good ads.
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:01 PM
Thursday

I don't really recall if it was them or some other associated group.

When I need a quick political dopamine kick, I'll sometimes click their videos but I've been getting diminishing returns. Raw Story similarly presents articles sensationally and with so little content as to be the news equivalent of potato chips.

Agree with you, QueerDuck.

hlthe2b

(113,913 posts)
23. Yes. The hyperbole and clickbaiting is annoying as hell. That said, they BASE their stories on true
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:51 PM
Thursday

reporting (mostly from others, although they do have a fairly high ranked former military person traveling to Ukraine and areas of the Middle East to do reporting as well. His name escapes me, but I think he may have reported on this military base story as well.

But, yes. The hyperbole, repetition, filler, often off-putting ads, and constant making of a 60 second video into 15 minutes or more has gotten ridiculous. I limit myself to the occasional view every few days and if they don't get to the point fairly quickly, I skim the transcript (Youtube at least gives that) and move on.

Do I think they are propaganda? Not really, but they do milk everything with more hyperbole than any of us should find acceptable. But it is still based on truth. So, that alone is better than RW media and MSM won't report on any of this at all until it blows up to their ever-embarrassment.

Escurumbele

(4,092 posts)
46. I googled it, and this is what showed:
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 06:48 PM
Thursday

Middle East Challenges: As of March 2026, intensified retaliatory strikes in the Gulf have caused massive damage to U.S. bases, forcing troops to abandon some facilities and work remotely from safer, often commercial, locations.

Did not watch the video, not sure if this is what they are referring to.

wnylib

(25,976 posts)
57. Other media outlets are also reporting the damage of
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 06:12 PM
Friday

13 US bases and the abandonment of them by US military, who are now working in hotels.

So the Meidas report US factual.

EYESORE 9001

(29,714 posts)
2. If you're waiting for the lickspittle corporate media to corroborate
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 01:54 PM
Thursday

don’t hold yer breath. Another alternative is foreign media - BBC, for instance.

Ocelot II

(130,497 posts)
3. Not especially, at least according to this:
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 01:56 PM
Thursday
https://adfontesmedia.com/meidastouch-podcast-bias-and-reliability/

They offer political commentaries, not objective news reports. And their video titles are annoyingly tendentious.

hlthe2b

(113,913 posts)
26. I do find there is at least some level of truthful reporting upon which they base their videos, but
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:02 PM
Thursday

it often gets lost in the hyperbole.

hlthe2b

(113,913 posts)
37. THey have a former military official who has a show on the network who just retruned from
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:40 PM
Thursday

Ukraine (and a short time in the ME) who touched on it but it was less than a fleshed out story--more of a "let's keep an eye on this." I will say I suspect there may have been some issues with high ranking leadership electing not to stay on base, but somehow I doubt 13 bases were vacated. NYT has the story, but I have not yet been able to read it yet as I can't archive it on a cell phone.

And you? What do you know/think?

questionseverything

(11,827 posts)
39. I hadn't seen it before this video, I think mt is a pretty important website
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:49 PM
Thursday

Nyt paywalls their news so thank goodness mt reports it

hlthe2b

(113,913 posts)
25. I think their titles alone probably earned their rating based on their criteria
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:01 PM
Thursday

-both on the standpoint of bias and reliability. Hyperbolic clickbait may be the game on YOUTUBE, but it does not help the reputation.

OhioBack2Blue

(102 posts)
6. 13 US bases 'uninhabitable' after Iran strikes -- New York Times reporting this. Is that better for you?
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:04 PM
Thursday

....Soldiers moving / moved into hotels, causing US military to have diminished capacity.

What's with the attack on Meidas Touch? (No, I am not a subscriber, but JHC the enemy is on the other side).

W_HAMILTON

(10,332 posts)
12. That doesn't make them wrong.
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:10 PM
Thursday

And, in this case -- as is often the case, from what I've seen -- their commentary is based on reputable reporting from other sources.

From The New York Times:

Iran has bombed U.S. bases across the Middle East in retaliation for the U.S.-Israeli war, forcing many American troops to relocate to hotels and office spaces throughout the region, according to military personnel and American officials.

...

Many of the 13 military bases in the region used by American troops are all but uninhabitable, with the ones in Kuwait, which is next door to Iran, suffering perhaps the most damage. Six U.S. service members were killed in a strike on Port Shuaiba that destroyed an Army tactical operations center. Iranian drones and missiles also targeted Ali Al Salem Air Base, damaging aircraft structures and injuring personnel, and Camp Buehring, damaging maintenance and fuel facilities.


Taken from: https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/25/us/politics/iran-us-bases.html

PS - Are you confusing them with The Bulwark? Because the main founder of Meidas Touch has been a long-time Democrat, having interned for several prominent Democratic politicians (including Hillary).

Fiendish Thingy

(23,187 posts)
16. Meidas is not a news source, they are a clickbait site
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:20 PM
Thursday

Yes, the information in their videos may be accurate, but it is filtered/altered with emotional trigger words to induce the viewer to keep watching and click on more of their videos generating more ad revenue.

As others have noted, they make a 10 second story into a 10 minute video.

Bottom line, they are a business, and their business is manipulating viewers emotions on political issues to get clicks and generate revenue. This is true of Occupy Democrats, the Lincoln Project, Glen Kirchner, and many others.

It will be interesting to see how the Never Trumper sites pivot in the near future, probably right after the midterms. Trump will never again be on the ballot, and the Never Trumpers will likely want to find a lane for conservatives to reclaim power. If Liz Cheney decides to run in 2028, I expect Meidas, Lincoln Project and others to back her.

W_HAMILTON

(10,332 posts)
18. "Yes, the information in their videos may be accurate"
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:26 PM
Thursday

That's all that matters here.

The rest of your diatribe is just you voicing you displeasure with the current nature of most social media political commentary outlets.

Yes, most are click-baity.

Yes, most cater towards a particular audience AKA they are biased.

But none of that means they are factually incorrect about something -- and in this particular case, they are commenting on reputable reporting.

blue-wave

(5,072 posts)
21. Your argument is that they are a business?
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:44 PM
Thursday

Well I have some news for you. So is every main stream media outlet. Why don't you attack them? Everyone the world over is trying to hustle and make a living. But you are the one who is supposed to make the decision of who can and who can't have a social media channel that makes a living for them? Give me a break.

Our number one concern and objective should be defeating MAGA and restoring America back to a place of peace and prosperity for everyone. Top priorities, they should be front and center.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,187 posts)
34. Many people perceive these sites as Public Service/Activist organizations
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:34 PM
Thursday

And some started out that way, but as the post-Trump era approaches, their model has shifted to focus on revenue generation, rather than activism.

But you are the one who is supposed to make the decision of who can and who can't have a social media channel that makes a living for them?


Where did I say that? They are free to run any legal business they want, and I am free to criticize it.

Most Americans get their news from social media, and that is not a good thing.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,187 posts)
53. This thread isn't about the blue wave in November
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 09:44 AM
Friday

But if you look around DU, you’ll see that many, if not most of my comments, are related to the upcoming Blue Tsunami, especially as a counter to defeatist Doomerism.

Escurumbele

(4,092 posts)
47. Well said...There is one goal only, that of helping the USA become what it was and better, and to do that we must get ri
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 06:54 PM
Thursday

of the filth that has taken over USA government.

You put it perfect, well done!

hlthe2b

(113,913 posts)
27. Some of the newer 'hires' maybe but not the Meidas Brothers. They have always been Dems.
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:04 PM
Thursday

But, if you read my posts upstream, I agree with the hyperbole and clickbait--problematic way to gain a foothold in the business, but given the move away from traditional media for news, I guess this is going to be the case for awhile.

RussBLib

(10,632 posts)
40. I do not believe you are correct about Meidas
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:51 PM
Thursday

Meidas Touch is not a never-Trumper outfit. Lincoln Project? Yes.

I do not believe Meidas is a clickbait site either. Clickbait infers they are intentionally deceptive, misleading, and/or sensationalist. Some of their headlines may indeed be a bit hyperbolic, and they may drag out a point longer than necessary, but clickbait? No.


Fiendish Thingy

(23,187 posts)
44. Clickbait is content that uses trigger words to get you to click
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 04:24 PM
Thursday

It may or may not be deceptive, is almost certainly always subjective, usually emotion based.

The deception may not always be factual in nature, it may be a deceptive interpretation.

bigtree

(94,247 posts)
51. actually, Ben and his brothers aren't the prototype anti-Trumpers.
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 09:04 AM
Friday

...they're very mainstream progressive, whatever hyperbole that comes with that.

dpibel

(3,933 posts)
54. Are you going to correct this?
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 11:21 AM
Friday

Several people have pointed out that this statement is incorrect and that you appear to have conflated Meidas Touch with The Bulwark or The Lincoln project.

You have responded with your clickbait critique.

You have not corrected this initial false claim.

You being a person who demands punctilious accuracy would, I should think, hasten to correct this error.

obamanut2012

(29,357 posts)
9. Yes, they are reliable
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:06 PM
Thursday

Very much so.

Their rather bombastic video titles are because of algorithms for social media sites.

MineralMan

(151,232 posts)
13. It has joined the YouTube Clickbait Wars.
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:14 PM
Thursday

I stopped watching its videos some time ago. I refuse to click on videos that shout at me with inaccuracies.

It is no longer a reliable source of news.

ruet

(10,276 posts)
14. "ALL HELL IS BREAKING LOOSE."
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:15 PM
Thursday

I can't sand the titles and some of the presentation but they are reliably accurate. I mostly listen for their new roundups.

Justice

(7,261 posts)
15. The substance is usually good but the hype is not
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:15 PM
Thursday

They are taking the Gavin Newsom approach - mirroring exaggerated headlines of MAGA.

As others have said, story is in NYT as well. All of our military bases around Iran have suffered damage and our troops are working remotely.

Also, Scott McFarlane joined MediasTouch (well respected CBS News reporter). I don’t think he’d go there if not reputable. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/scott-macfarlane-meidastouch-cbs-news-1236544449/

flvegan

(66,266 posts)
19. The big yellow arrow, all caps and multiple exclamation points
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:26 PM
Thursday

should have told you. TO SUBSCRIBE AND SMASH THAT LIKE BUTTON WOOT AMIRITE

DU is still otherwise littered with this sort of shit though.

ABC123Easy

(275 posts)
20. I've found them to be VERY reliable.
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:43 PM
Thursday

Ignore the titles of the videos......now those ARE very unreliable. But.....the content from Ben and his brothers is reliable and verifiable.

mcar

(46,052 posts)
22. I will never click on one of those overly dramatic vids
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 02:46 PM
Thursday

and on their Substack they spend most of their time trolling for subscribers.

However, Ron Filipowski is a good reporter for them.

Wednesdays

(22,573 posts)
29. Their information is good, but their headlines are exaggerated to the point of distortion.
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:15 PM
Thursday

If you can ignore their headlines, it's a good source.

SalviaBlue

(3,109 posts)
30. They are appealing to a certain demographic.
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:18 PM
Thursday

I like it or not (I don’t) there are many people who will not read the New York Times or listen to Rachel Maddow or even network or cable news They will, however, look at videos with this kind of click bait title. Since Meidas Touch are anti-Trump/pro-democracy and for the most part they’re providing real true information they are a benefit to the media environment.

I would recommend them to people who don’t necessarily read their news.

PJMcK

(25,048 posts)
31. The affiliated channels are very good
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:26 PM
Thursday

Legal AF is accurate and detailed without being overly hyperbolic. Michael Popok is a bit of a know-it-all but he mostly does! He and his associates are lawyers so of course they're long-winded! Still, very good analysis-focused shows.

Under Color of Law with Shan Wu is excellent and concise.

Scrivener7

(59,499 posts)
36. The tactics everyone is complaining about have gotten them 2x as many listeners as Joe Rogan.
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:34 PM
Thursday

Some months it's 3x.

We need that. Time for us to stop saying "ick" and support those on our side that appeal to very large audiences.

And their stories are well sourced and accurate. My feeling is, "Whatever you're doing is working. Carry on."

I appreciate them.

purr-rat beauty

(1,248 posts)
38. I trust them
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 03:45 PM
Thursday

But it is getting bombastic and Ben is getting too emotional but many streaming critics are and rightfully so. I appreciate they are bringing more voices to their broadcast so the variety is nice albeit similar messaging. Much better than TYT

carpetbagger

(5,484 posts)
42. Mixed bag.
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 04:01 PM
Thursday

The news itself is usually secondhand, but the sources tend to not be fictive.

The presentation is hyperbolic. I think the emotional and sensationalist presentations indirectly misinform in a number of ways. For instance, you'd walk away from 5-10 of those stories thinking the right wing is going to collapse by next payday.

I'll admit that I prefer my news handed to me as concisely as possible, and if I'm going to watch something for 15 minutes I'd prefer to have some in-depth coverage and expert opinion. I'm old school like that, and loitering news-readers bug me as much as much as those AI-written social media posts with the choppy paragraphs full of blustery mind-reading.

That having been said, I think Meidas will improve over time. Charlie Angus is their figurehead in Canada, and he's a serious guy, serious about punk and serious about politics. I think Scott McFarlane joining in the last few days can potentially take it to that point where they're putting out more original and detailed reporting.

JI7

(93,591 posts)
45. It's clickbait but what they actually report is the truth
Thu Mar 26, 2026, 04:28 PM
Thursday

But when you listen to the actual video you will realize they used clickbait.

I have no problem with it becsuse the other side does it although they actually lie a lot if times.

Many people don't watch the actual video..But they will see the title and image.

bigtree

(94,247 posts)
50. a little clickbaity
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 09:02 AM
Friday

...Popok and Litman are as mindnumbingly boring as they are informative, and many of the others aren't really news sources in that you can rely on every word spoken in advocacy to be accurate, like most talk on the internet, but they bring good info with their efforts.

But, it's SOLID Democratic, progressive advocacy. So they exaggerate a bit and are strident in their descriptions of republicans and Trump. So what? No one should care. They are progressive advocacy and I think they can be effective with what they do. Just not necessarily what I'm looking for all the time.

But, ALLISON GILL (Mueller She Wrote). owner of MSW Media and hosting several podcasts, hosts 'The Daily Beans' on Meidas which I think is an essential for folks who like informative, up to date discussion of breaking news and other political stuff. A-1 podcast.

The vid you posted has solid info from good sources, presented in a way that informs folks who may not be as concerned as some of us are and need a bit of a nudge.

Oh, and as a poster reminded, you can also find Katie Phang's excellent podcast there.

AZProgressive

(29,929 posts)
52. I think their content is fine
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 09:07 AM
Friday

A lot of videos have clickbait titles and say like and subscribe but I watch Katie Phang videos who I believe used to work for the mainstream press. A lot of it is informative and reliable but I don't watch them too often nor am I subscribed but they aren't bad.

Iggo

(49,924 posts)
55. There's truth in their videos, but the headlines are pretty much bullshit.
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 11:24 AM
Friday

I used to watch everything they put up. Then they started putting up videos every twenty minutes. I’d scan to see who was doing most of the talking, and either watch or not based on that. Then sometime last year I stopped clicking on videos from people and organizations who weren’t talking about a couple of very important issues, and they were one of those organizations. I blocked the ones who were obviously getting paid to not talk about it. The rest I just scroll right past.

TLDR: They’re hyperbolic and possibly a little sketchy.

Niagara

(11,832 posts)
56. I don't view Medias Touch as it reminds me of Occupy Democrats with the clickbait titles
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 06:05 PM
Friday

I will reveal some of the channels that I do watch and I gain valuable information from them:


1. I watch Democracy Docket by Marc Elias.






2. I watch Robert Reich.





3. I watch Glenn Kirschner

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4. I watch Brian Tyler Cohen.





5. I watch Mary Trump Media.





6. I watch Michael Cohen. Now I want to say that Epstein and TSF had a falling out over a bidding war of Maison de L'Amitié in 2004. Michael Cohen didn't start working for tRump Org in 2006 so I don't believe that he knew anything about Epstein. Medias Touch severed ties with Michael Cohen after a declaration that Cohen made and he fired back at Medias Touch.

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LeftInTX

(34,242 posts)
58. Yeah, it has an Occupy Democrats vibe
Fri Mar 27, 2026, 06:29 PM
Friday

BTC is predicted a "blue wave" for Texas based on the primary. I do not find that accurate. If primaries are predictors of general, then Obama would have won Texas at 65% in 2008.

67.84% of votes cast in the 2008 primary were for Democratic ballots.

Democrats: 2,874,986
Republicans: 1,362,322

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