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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think dump is going to put troops on Hormuz Island.
It was used by the Portuguese to control the straight before, does not have oil on it that can be attacked by the Iranians and is in a much better point to control the straight. It is also close to Bandar Abbas airport that could be taken over and used as a staging point in the south of Iran.
My bets on that if we do put boots on the ground.
I'm in no way saying that it will be safe at all for the troops but it is less defended and presents a better strategic point for us. If he listens to the Generals. If.
RockRaven
(19,328 posts)What effect are those troops on Hormuz Island going to have on the missile and drone threat to ships trying to pass without Iranian consent?
Eko
(9,988 posts)As well as a base to house Destroyers, fast boats and a mine sweeper. One lol. It also gives them easy access to Bandar airport where they can drop in anti air units and anti ship units.

RockRaven
(19,328 posts)in order to attempt the trip. They need Iran to tell them they won't be a target, that Iran won't be trying to attack them. Occupying that island does not accomplish that.
Eko
(9,988 posts)But I guess I need to thank you for telling me that to reinforce it. I appreciate it tons. I said it is the second worse option but now with your input I will revise that it is the 1.5 worse option and not the second worse option. All I wanted to do was show how this made a much more strategic option with less risk so was probably where the Generals were going to go but Ill just shut the fuck up now. It never hurts to ask questions to people on here instead of just assuming what their views are.
Eko.
flying rabbit
(4,967 posts)are serious high ground. Not a good place to be in.
gab13by13
(32,277 posts)Our troops will be sitting ducks.
Eko
(9,988 posts)flying rabbit
(4,967 posts)Sitting in a cafe in Tehran for example.
gab13by13
(32,277 posts)That would be closer.
Eko
(9,988 posts)Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island,. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island. Hormuz Island.
Totally different Island. And no, no one has announced we are going to Kharg Island.
patphil
(9,056 posts)This can only end tragically for the families of the dead, and the republicans who will politically die in November.
Worst possible decision Trump could make.
Eko
(9,988 posts)Eko
(9,988 posts)gab13by13
(32,277 posts)he wants his Iwo Jimo photo-op.
gab13by13
(32,277 posts)What do you mean there is no oil? 90% of Iran's oil goes through Kharg. 90% of oil from Iran that is shipped to China goes through Kharg.
There was a runway that was much closer, the one that was on Kharg Island before we blew it up.
Taking Kharg isn't the problem, keeping control of it is the problem.
If we succeed in gaining control of Kharg, Iran may blow up all of the oil tanks and volatile chemical plants rather than have the US in control.
Iran can hit Kharg Island with its short range missiles for crying out loud.
Eko
(9,988 posts)"If we succeed in gaining control of Kharg, Iran may blow up all of the oil tanks and volatile chemical plants rather than have the US in control."
Exactly, no oil on Hormuz Island, no worries about Iran blowing it up to create a ecological nightmare for our troops on that island. Hormuz Island.
I am talking about Hormuz Island.
gab13by13
(32,277 posts)Krasnov is headed for Kharg island where all the oil is, shit Iran will let Krasnov take Hormuz Island and pick our soldiers off at his leisure.
Taking Kharg Island kills Iran economically, taking Hormuz island creates a shooting gallery.
Eko
(9,988 posts)But we cant hold that and there is nothing we can do after we take it. We are just stuck on there with ever increasing casualties and an environmental nightmare for our troops to try to live through. Hormuz island is not defended like Kharg, the nearest airport is not well defended and is not damaged and gives our troops and an Iranian insurgency room to form and maneuver. Like Afghanistan. Its in the southern part of the country and away from the large military forces of Iran. If, If, an Iranian insurgency forms we can support them with air cover from the airport. Like we did in Afghanistan. Once again not that I think that went well nor do I support that or this but it is a much better strategic option than Kharg Island. By far. If I was a General that is what I would choose, it is the least shitty option.
hlthe2b
(113,900 posts)(by that I mean intellect) and may well be sending our troops to a horrific trap. I hope to hell not, but everything I have heard from this crowd and seen thus far--starting with naming Hegseth to head up DOD has me quite fearful.
There are people who know and understand what no one in the WH has a clue about. But do they bring them in and listen to them? No.
I fear this could be a disaster for our military on a scale not seen since Vietnam (and perhaps before).
I hope to hell I am wrong, but I am getting really bad feelings about what is soon to happen.
Eko
(9,988 posts)Diraven
(1,896 posts)First of all it's surrounded on 3 sides by the rest of Iran where.they could easily overwhelm defenses with missiles and drones. Secondly today it's mostly just a tourist destination and it has a lot of unique historical natural attractions that would undoubtedly be completely destroyed if it becomes a battleground.