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shelshaw

(689 posts)
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:16 PM Friday

Kyrsten Sinema: Yes, I Banged My Bodyguard in Lots o' Places ...

I seriously never liked this woman

https://www.tmz.com/2026/03/13/kyrsten-sinema-confirms-affair-with-bodyguard/

Kyrsten Sinema says she did in fact sleep with her bodyguard while he was still married ... admitting as much in legal docs -- though she says his estranged wife shouldn't be allowed to sue her in North Carolina for it.

The former Arizona senator filed a motion to dismiss a lawsuit in which she's being sued by her lover's estranged wife in North Carolina Thursday. In the papers, she admits she and Matthew Ammel began an affair about five months before he separated from his wife, Heather Ammel.
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Kyrsten Sinema: Yes, I Banged My Bodyguard in Lots o' Places ... (Original Post) shelshaw Friday OP
Fake in every way. Kid Berwyn Friday #1
Sinema's Lover's Ex-Wife 2028 !! leftstreet Friday #2
In the House of Representatives, Sinema was a member of the Blue Dog Coalition and the Problem Solvers Caucus. Celerity Friday #3
iow- she stood for nothing. mopinko Friday #14
She just went whichever way the wind was blowing. nt City Lights Friday #21
She stood for enriching herself not fooled Friday #24
She is a complete fraud. Good riddance, etc. But a lawsuit like this shouldn't be allowed to happen. FascismIsDeath Friday #4
Not so sure about the lawsuit unblock Friday #5
The "coercive" element has nothing to do with the ass backwards North Carolina law. FascismIsDeath Friday #12
i agree that these laws have an odious original and usage, and on the whole we're probably better off without such laws unblock Friday #22
The text of the law itself doesn't speak to any "coercive elements" though. FascismIsDeath Friday #27
Shouldn't happen? Isn't that for the court to decide? FSogol Friday #8
It will be. And I can still say the law its based on shouldn't exist. FascismIsDeath Friday #11
You know, whatever she was when they first voted for her, by the end, we knew Baitball Blogger Friday #6
No because it's a gendered slur EdmondDantes_ Friday #9
Give me something better. I will be happy to replace it. Baitball Blogger Friday #10
poseur. ratfucker. scumbag. mopinko Friday #15
I used your choices as a source of inspiration. Baitball Blogger Friday #16
that was off the top of my head. i cd have gone on. mopinko Friday #17
Then why not simply use them whathehell Friday #19
Because I personally did not object to the Baitball Blogger Friday #20
I'm guessing that.. whathehell Friday #23
I love it when ladies call me "big dick" 😁 ☮ walkingman Friday #26
I prefer "needle dick" myself. 😊 whathehell Friday #30
Not a man at all. Baitball Blogger Friday #35
This completes her Republican bonifides Bobstandard Friday #7
She's a political interloper... La Coliniere Friday #13
I don't like her either, whathehell Friday #18
wait.. you can sue an affair partner? quakerboy Friday #25
I'm not sure if this would be whathehell Friday #33
In North Carolina, apparently. Maybe other backward states, too. nilram Friday #34
This illustrates our collective tilt Torchlight Friday #28
Sinema is a circus clown AZ8theist Friday #29
Turns out the country wasn't the only thing she fucked... Fil1957 Friday #31
I've always called her Kyrsten "Cinema" because she is a bad actor. OMGWTF Friday #32

Celerity

(54,250 posts)
3. In the House of Representatives, Sinema was a member of the Blue Dog Coalition and the Problem Solvers Caucus.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:22 PM
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According to the Bipartisan Index created by the Lugar Center and the McCourt School of Public Policy, Sinema was the sixth most bipartisan member of the U.S. House of Representatives during the first session of the 115th Congress. The National Journal's 2013 vote ratings placed Sinema near the center of their liberal–conservative scale. In 2015, she voted with the majority of her party 73% of the time.

In 2015 and 2016, Sinema did not vote for Nancy Pelosi for speaker of the U.S. House. In 2016, the National Journal gave her a composite ideology score of 57% liberal and 43% conservative. She was one of the most conservative House Democrats during her House tenure.

According to GovTrack, Sinema has a centrist to center-right voting record in the Senate, to the right of Republican Senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski. According to FiveThirtyEight, as of January 2021, Sinema had voted in line with Donald Trump's position on legislation about 50% of the time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyrsten_Sinema

FascismIsDeath

(151 posts)
4. She is a complete fraud. Good riddance, etc. But a lawsuit like this shouldn't be allowed to happen.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:23 PM
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unblock

(56,169 posts)
5. Not so sure about the lawsuit
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:40 PM
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Generally loss of affection isn't easy to prove and usually it's reasonable to figure the cheating spouse had a change of heart and the jilted spouse is just out of luck.

But in this case there's a coercive:harassment element due to the employment relationship and that makes it much easier to believe that sinema acted inappropriately and that the jilted spouse was damaged as a result.

FascismIsDeath

(151 posts)
12. The "coercive" element has nothing to do with the ass backwards North Carolina law.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:56 PM
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The idea that you can sue someone for having an affair with your wife or husband is ludicrous and has no place in the year 2026. And though it may be hundreds of years old, its definitely catnip for culture warriors who want to control people.

If your husband or wife cheats on you, your beef is with them for cheating on you.

unblock

(56,169 posts)
22. i agree that these laws have an odious original and usage, and on the whole we're probably better off without such laws
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 02:50 PM
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because the vast majority of affairs are voluntary on the part of the cheater and it's silly to sue the "homewrecker" over the cheater's rotten ethics.

however, when there's a coercive element, i don't think it's unreasonable to say a spouse is injured by the person outside the marriage and therefore has a legitimate tort claim.

in an extreme case, if i'm kidnapped and tortured and brainwashed into being revulsed by the sight of my wife, or permanently nauseated by the thought of sex, don't you think she's injured by the kidnapper's actions and should have a right to sue for damages, independently from any claim i would have?

in this particular case, to the extent the bodyguard was a willing or even eager cheater, then i agree that the ex-wife's beef is with him and there's nothing to sue a third party over. but if she can make the case that he only did it because he thought he would lose his job, then i think she has a reasonable case.

the fact that they're now divorced does work against her; it suggests that she left him because she thought he voluntarily cheated rather than was completely coerced. if i was on the jury i'd want to see an explanation for the divorce more convincing than that she left him because he cheated. for instance, if he left her instead.



FascismIsDeath

(151 posts)
27. The text of the law itself doesn't speak to any "coercive elements" though.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:40 PM
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Its based on "alienation of affection". If you can prove that someone made your spouse not want to be with you anymore, you can sue them. There was a case in 2019 where some guy sued this other guy who had an affair with his wife and was awarded over 8 million dollars. And there definitely was no professional relationship in that case. He just said "he screwed my wife, it destroyed our marriage".

Based on the details I've read about the case, the wife isn't claiming that he was coerced either. She just claims that he was seduced. The truth is, her husband or ex-husband or whatever their status is now, is an asshole who betrayed her. If you are tempted to cheat on your spouse, you should go ahead and get separated. Its obvious that you aren't into the marriage anymore if you no longer want to be with just them and you aren't in some open marriage agreement.

And the whole thing was originally designed around the thinking that your spouse is your property, particularly women being the property of their husbands.

I understand your extreme case and I think there are probably a whole host of other laws that could cover compensation for something that insane. This law wasn't designed to punish an extreme case like that, though it incidentally would work I suppose.



FascismIsDeath

(151 posts)
11. It will be. And I can still say the law its based on shouldn't exist.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:53 PM
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If your wife or husband has an affair, its categorically stupid that people can sue the person they had an affair with. Its 18th century horse shit and only 6 states have been ass backwards enough to allow such a law to still exist.

Responsibility for an affair, as far as the married are involve, is on the person who had the affair. But go ahead and try to defend this nonsense.

Baitball Blogger

(52,229 posts)
6. You know, whatever she was when they first voted for her, by the end, we knew
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:42 PM
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Last edited Fri Mar 13, 2026, 02:15 PM - Edit history (1)

she was a vile, indecent creature.

EdmondDantes_

(1,700 posts)
9. No because it's a gendered slur
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:48 PM
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Would you call Bill Clinton a skank because he has had a whole lot of affairs? Gary Hart, JFK?

Or is it only a woman or a political opponent you would call that?

Baitball Blogger

(52,229 posts)
20. Because I personally did not object to the
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 02:36 PM
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Word, but wasn’t sure how others felt. For instances, I don’t object to calling vile men, dicks. But under the same gender rules of engagement it also should be avoided,

whathehell

(30,443 posts)
23. I'm guessing that..
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:00 PM
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your lack of objection might be due to your being male.

As for calling vile men "dicks", I (and I'd guess the majority of women here) would gladly stop calling them that if they, in turn, stopped calling us "cunts", "whores" "bitches" and "sluts".

Bobstandard

(2,268 posts)
7. This completes her Republican bonifides
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:43 PM
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No wonder their lobbyists are welcoming her with open arms. She’d do well in a Republican primary somewhere. Florida of course, but perhaps Utah too. They seem ok with hypocrisy.

La Coliniere

(1,900 posts)
13. She's a political interloper...
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 02:04 PM
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showed her true colors soon after she was elected…we should all be glad she’s finally out of government. Now we need to work on getting Fetterman out of Congress and replaced with a true progressive.

whathehell

(30,443 posts)
18. I don't like her either,
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 02:25 PM
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but I see more than a little 'slut shaming' in your subject line. The fact is, she did not say "Yes I banged my boyfriend in lots of places".
While you avoided putting quote marks around those words, the intention seems clear and it's not the kind of thing one sees when 'the accused' is male.

whathehell

(30,443 posts)
33. I'm not sure if this would be
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 04:13 PM
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the chargeable offense, but there used to be something called "Alienation of Affections"...Sounds very Victorian, so I don't know if it's still standing.




nilram

(3,536 posts)
34. In North Carolina, apparently. Maybe other backward states, too.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 04:20 PM
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(sorry, gratuitous dig at North Carolina.)

Torchlight

(6,740 posts)
28. This illustrates our collective tilt
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:41 PM
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towards rewarding the lowest common denominators among us with office, perks, and bennies if the stage-craft behind them is at least catoonishly plausible.

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