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Will Catholics start leaving the GOP which is now anti Catholic? (Original Post) Kingofalldems Friday OP
People love hating Catholics OC375 Friday #1
Husband Rebl2 Friday #7
my evangelical sister in law believe Mormans are a cult mountain grammy Friday #14
Evangelical's Maninacan Friday #53
All due respect angrychair Friday #9
I can't blame you for criticizing the catholic church and clergy SocialDemocrat61 Friday #13
Kennedy Democrat OC375 Friday #23
And, they have Pope Leo X1V now... Cha Friday #50
Shady Vance is Catholic. wnylib Friday #52
Yes, and Pope Leo in all his wisdom Cha Friday #55
True. Leo's got Vance's number. wnylib Friday #56
I love Pope Leo. BlueKota Friday #58
So Do I, BlueKota! Cha Friday #64
Does AOC go to church? For some reason, I can't picture it. I never thought of her faith LeftInTX Saturday #68
She went on Ash Wednesday SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #71
Cool! LeftInTX Saturday #72
I survived Catholic schools OC375 Friday #22
I am a Catholic School survivor too. BlueKota Friday #57
Hating on Catholics is an American tradition peggysue2 Friday #28
You are making me think of the movie "Gangs of New York" OC375 Friday #39
Catholics were also targets of the KKK, and Hitler. BlueKota Friday #60
Just like old times Wednesdays Friday #2
Ban Christmas and Easter too. They started with Catholics. Srkdqltr Friday #3
They actually started as Pagan holy days, Yule and Oestara. The churches niyad Friday #11
whatever massive eye roll Srkdqltr Friday #20
Accuracy matters. niyad Friday #24
Indeed.it does. Thank you BlueWaveNeverEnd Friday #49
I thought Christmas was a repacking of Roman Saturnalia DBoon Friday #27
And Saturnalia was lifted from Yule. niyad Friday #34
That's ridiculous muriel_volestrangler Friday #45
Ancient Aliens OC375 Friday #40
Accurately, Easter comes from the Jewish Passover. muriel_volestrangler Friday #47
Another creative reductio ad absurdum Torchlight Friday #31
Actually, no. Mme. Defarge Friday #54
But then there are the Opus Dei catholics who will gladly leave the church to follow MAGA. 3_Limes Friday #4
I call them Francisco Franco Catholics DBoon Friday #6
Leonard Leo Sleazebag 2na fisherman Friday #16
They were following the priest. Blue Full Moon Friday #5
Not a chance RainCaster Friday #8
Catholics aren't into that. They are anti-abortion! LeftInTX Friday #35
As a Catholic, no Catholic follows the "end times" nonsense. debm55 Friday #43
glad to hear that RainCaster Friday #63
There are 45,000 "christian" denominations worldwide Nigrum Cattus Friday #10
And yet he tattooed his body Mblaze Friday #12
Another evangelical who is illiterate regarding the Constitution of the United Sates King_Klonopin Friday #15
My current parish is very conservative with a hard-right pastor. Boomerproud Friday #25
Pope Leo is also being undermined at every turn by the radtrad media machine... keep_left Friday #44
I'm fortunate to live in Mass. King_Klonopin Saturday #65
I have always felt the same way about the Evangelicals. BlueKota Friday #62
Republicans are one part gangster, one part Pharisee. n/t King_Klonopin Saturday #66
Agreed BlueKota Saturday #73
No Silly! You don't understand the state of our media maxrandb Friday #17
Good summary ck4829 Friday #21
Sometimes I see so many stories about everyone breaking up with Democrats that I imagine the party betsuni Friday #33
Pretty much sums it up, as you always do! Great post! mountain grammy Saturday #69
K&R ck4829 Friday #18
Church in the military for me pwb Friday #19
This is what a college friend of mine BlueKota Friday #61
Most of the Catholics that I know are Bettie Friday #26
Division. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Friday #29
JD Vance is Catholic, baptized in 2019 and Marco Rubio, Sean Duffy are Catholic wishstar Friday #30
They are Opus Dei Catholics, not Pope Leo Catholics. blm Friday #32
If the nationalists take over, there will be no Supreme Court. Kingofalldems Friday #38
According to Franklin (and Billy) Graham, Catholics are not Christians either Norrrm Friday #36
That is true. Kingofalldems Friday #37
If they vote Republican they themselves most likely hate some other groups also JI7 Friday #41
LOL, right. maxsolomon Friday #42
"...the GOP which is NOW anti Catholic?" B.See Friday #46
These are the people that want to force TPUSA and extreme Christian nationalist viewpoints down everyone's throats ChicagoTeamster Friday #48
Post removed Post removed Friday #51
Great response to that Obvious One Prairie Gates Friday #59
W Bush courted the Catholic vote. "Mexico is our friend" LeftInTX Saturday #67
If it weren't for the Catholic Church, which goes clear back almost to the time of Christ, valleyrogue Saturday #70

Rebl2

(17,650 posts)
7. Husband
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:16 AM
Friday

had someone he worked with in the past that said Catholicism was a cult. He was of course was an evangelical magat.

mountain grammy

(28,977 posts)
14. my evangelical sister in law believe Mormans are a cult
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:33 AM
Friday

but she went ahead and voted for Romney anyway because "Obama isn't a Christian"

angrychair

(12,205 posts)
9. All due respect
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:24 AM
Friday

This guy is an idiot and his reasons for hating Catholics is more about evangelicals teaching that it's a cult.

I ripe on Catholics, especially as a survivor of SA, that they spent decades and decades hiding the SA of children by priests and some layman as a church policy and still try to this day by fighting mandatory reporting laws.

SocialDemocrat61

(7,509 posts)
13. I can't blame you for criticizing the catholic church and clergy
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:31 AM
Friday

What they did is inexcusable.

However, ordinary catholics were not responsible. Plus there are a lot of good democrats who are catholic such as Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, and AOC.

Cha

(318,672 posts)
50. And, they have Pope Leo X1V now...
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 06:18 PM
Friday

Who is a Force For Good.

No wonder Nazi Fascist Assholes want to Hate on Catholics.

Cha

(318,672 posts)
55. Yes, and Pope Leo in all his wisdom
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 07:29 PM
Friday

Last edited Fri Mar 13, 2026, 08:41 PM - Edit history (1)

doesn't seem to like him.. as in he knows what he is

LeftInTX

(34,180 posts)
68. Does AOC go to church? For some reason, I can't picture it. I never thought of her faith
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 10:21 AM
Saturday

Just curious.

I don't picture most millennials going to Mass.

Joaquin Castro used to be my congressman. (He's Gen X) I don't think he goes to church.

I know Biden and Pelosi do.

OC375

(818 posts)
22. I survived Catholic schools
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 12:31 PM
Friday

As they say... I may be crazy, but I didn't drive myself here.

BlueKota

(5,289 posts)
57. I am a Catholic School survivor too.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 07:46 PM
Friday

No sexual abuse in our parrish that I was aware of but lots of beatings and humiliations took place. I have been in therapy for years because of it.

I don't go to church anymore, but I still believe in a lot of the teachings. I don't blame God or the faith, for what happened, just the twisted individuals who committed the wrong doing and those who covered for them.

peggysue2

(12,516 posts)
28. Hating on Catholics is an American tradition
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:08 PM
Friday

Goes way back.

Idolatry, the Pope, the original Latin Mass, Saints, all of it. Can't tell you how many times I heard this hate growing up as a Catholic kid.

I have plenty of problems with The Church but I despise this bigotry of Catholics or any other faith.

But from other so-called Christians? It's absolutely obscene.

And no, America is NOT a Christian nation.

OC375

(818 posts)
39. You are making me think of the movie "Gangs of New York"
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:21 PM
Friday

Bigotry had a large role in the movie, from a great many angles and perspectives.

One of the main disputes in the movie was too many Catholics coming to New York and competing for resources. The "Nativist" party descriptions of Catholic immigrants are nearly identical to what is said today in the immigration space. Humans have short memories when they want to, and every few generations we like to reaffirm it.

FWIW - I think our country is starting to resemble 1970's and 1980's Belfast. Still, even my Hibernian brothers and sisters mostly got their acts together. Now it's a tax haven for American businesses. The world is a funny place.

BlueKota

(5,289 posts)
60. Catholics were also targets of the KKK, and Hitler.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 07:53 PM
Friday

Though not to the extent that Black and Jewish people were.

Wednesdays

(22,444 posts)
2. Just like old times
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 09:07 AM
Friday

"'Rum, Romanism, and Rebellion' was an 1884 U.S. presidential campaign phrase that severely damaged Republican candidate James G. Blaine, contributing to his loss to Democrat Grover Cleveland. Uttered by Rev. Samuel D. Burchard, it attacked the Democratic Party as being allied with drinking (rum), Catholicism (Romanism), and Southern rebellion."

niyad

(131,925 posts)
11. They actually started as Pagan holy days, Yule and Oestara. The churches
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:29 AM
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appropriated them.

DBoon

(24,927 posts)
27. I thought Christmas was a repacking of Roman Saturnalia
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:01 PM
Friday

The early christians did not like the debauchery associated with Saturnalia, so they made it a solemn holy day.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,089 posts)
45. That's ridiculous
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:45 PM
Friday

The Romans knew very little about the Germans, and what they did think about them was mostly contempt. There's no evidence they "lifted" anything from Germanic peoples. Romans were quite capable of inventing their own religious beliefs.

muriel_volestrangler

(106,089 posts)
47. Accurately, Easter comes from the Jewish Passover.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:47 PM
Friday

You're confusing the English word with the Christian festival. Tell someone Italian that Easter comes from an unknown Germanic festival, and they'll look at you like you're loony.

3_Limes

(506 posts)
4. But then there are the Opus Dei catholics who will gladly leave the church to follow MAGA.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 09:33 AM
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So it may be a wash.

2na fisherman

(307 posts)
16. Leonard Leo Sleazebag
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:54 AM
Friday

He was called this by Trump after he apparently became too disloyal to him. He is the Federalist Society/Opus Dei operative who helped stack the Supreme Court in Trump's favor. But now it seems as though Leo is leaving MAGA to follow Opus Dei and make more money handling dark money for other Christo fascist goals anticipating the demise of Trump and arranging for different leaders to further institutionalize the Christian agenda of Project 2025.

RainCaster

(13,648 posts)
8. Not a chance
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:17 AM
Friday

They are caught up in the notion that TSF will bring about "the end times". Netenyahu is now spewing that shit as well. This is a cult and they will follow him into hell both literally and figuratively.

LeftInTX

(34,180 posts)
35. Catholics aren't into that. They are anti-abortion!
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 02:53 PM
Friday

However, many are supportive of immigrants.

If ICE forces immigrants to have abortions, then you will have it!

King_Klonopin

(1,372 posts)
15. Another evangelical who is illiterate regarding the Constitution of the United Sates
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 11:52 AM
Friday

I am a proud Catholic.
The republican/conservative movement has NEVER swayed me.
I have always seen them for what they are.
I have always held them in contempt as being just like the Pharisees whom Jesus detested and railed against.
So many are self-righteous, holier-than-thou, hypocritical, blind guides who are all bluster and pretense.
Their purpose is veiled but it cannot be hidden -- judgment, power, control, division, dominance...
never truth, humility, compassion, mercy, grace, or love which are the things most preached about by Jesus.

"You will know them by their fruits." -- Matthew 7:16

"They bind heavy burdens, hard to bear, and lay them on men's shoulders;
but they themselves will not move them with their finger.
They do all their deeds to be seen by men.
BUT woe to you, scribes and Pharisees (and republicans), hypocrites!
They love the place of honor at feasts and the best seats in the synagogues.
Because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men; for you neither enter yourselves,
nor allow those who would enter to go in. 
You traverse sea and land to make a single proselyte, and when he becomes a proselyte,
you make him twice as much a child of hell as yourselves. 
Blind guides
You tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law,
justice and mercy and faith
Blind guides, straining out a gnat and swallowing a camel! 
You cleanse the outside of the cup and of the plate, but inside they are full of extortion and rapacity. 
You are like white-washed tombs, which outwardly appear beautiful, but within they are full of dead men's bones and all uncleanness. So you also outwardly appear righteous to men, but within you are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
You are sons of those who murdered the prophets."
(excerpts from Matthew 23:4-31)

Boomerproud

(9,268 posts)
25. My current parish is very conservative with a hard-right pastor.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 12:45 PM
Friday

I'm trying to find a liberal parish but it's becoming more difficult. Pope Leo better watch his back because there are Cardinals who are undermining him just like Francis.

keep_left

(3,208 posts)
44. Pope Leo is also being undermined at every turn by the radtrad media machine...
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:39 PM
Friday

...that has been constructed by these maniacs (EWTN, Relevant Radio, Ave Maria Radio/Ave Maria anything, as well as numerous regional and local media groups--e.g. St Michael Broadcasting in MN). EWTN's "news" show, The World Over, is often even worse than Fox News when it comes to issues of fairness, accuracy, and guest balance. Raymond Arroyo, anchorman for The World Over, apparently has a Rolodex a mile wide and an inch deep when it comes to his favored guests. The show often features the same three radtrad "experts", day after life-sucking day.

Every retrograde Church official, no matter how marginal, always gets the red-carpet treatment at EWTN. And the perpetually smug Raymond Arroyo can always be counted on to give them an obsequious, fawning interview lacking even a scintilla of critical journalistic competence.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218176316#post3
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220873174#post5

King_Klonopin

(1,372 posts)
65. I'm fortunate to live in Mass.
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 10:07 AM
Saturday

At least half the Catholics here are old-school dems. You don't see any Trump stickers on cars after Mass!
Most priests here grew up in Mass, so they lean left. . . except when it comes to abortion, of course.

BlueKota

(5,289 posts)
62. I have always felt the same way about the Evangelicals.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 08:04 PM
Friday

I have always felt they are the false prophets.

maxrandb

(17,401 posts)
17. No Silly! You don't understand the state of our media
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 12:08 PM
Friday

The ONLY stories that are acceptable to "highlight" are ones where a certain demographic, or group is "leaving the Democratic Party".

Front page news in this Orwellian shitshow are ONLY;

"Are Jews Leaving the Democrat (sic) Party?"

"Have Dems lost young black and Hispanic males?"

"Soccer Mom's leaving the Democrat(sic) Party"

"How Dems lost white women"

If the story is unfavorable to Retrumplicans, it must be phrased as:

"Polls show Democrats still unpopular with Catholic Voters, even though Retrumplican rhetoric can be "perceived" by some as anti-catholic."

betsuni

(29,016 posts)
33. Sometimes I see so many stories about everyone breaking up with Democrats that I imagine the party
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:59 PM
Friday

weeping into a tub of ice cream while binge watching rom-coms all alone on Saturday night (the cat ran away and became an Independent).

And just what's so terrible about the Democratic Party? These stories are usually vague or misinformed grievances, sources probably the author's cat.

pwb

(12,622 posts)
19. Church in the military for me
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 12:21 PM
Friday

was a way to get out of training for an hour

Evangelicals don't know about Jesus, he is in the second half of the Bible and finishing a book is hard for them.

They hate the Catholic Church because they concentrate on the New Testament and Jesus Teachings.

Jesus is woke to these evangelical freaks.

BlueKota

(5,289 posts)
61. This is what a college friend of mine
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 08:01 PM
Friday

who became a priest told a bunch of Evangelicals who were trying to argue with him about religion during lunch.

Bettie

(19,614 posts)
26. Most of the Catholics that I know are
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 12:48 PM
Friday

Democrats.

The ones that are Republicans are not nice people. At. All. They gravitate to the Republicans, not because of religion, but because of their hatred and fear of those who don't think like them.

The one thing all Republicans have in common is that they hate something much more than they love anything.

wishstar

(5,825 posts)
30. JD Vance is Catholic, baptized in 2019 and Marco Rubio, Sean Duffy are Catholic
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 01:20 PM
Friday

plus all the conservative Supreme Court Justices were raised Catholic.

Norrrm

(4,853 posts)
36. According to Franklin (and Billy) Graham, Catholics are not Christians either
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:00 PM
Friday

Franklin (and Billy) Graham say Mormons are not Christians

According to them, Catholics are not Christians either.

https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/

"We need something like what Jerry Falwell did in the 1980s. We need a “moral majority”-made up of Christians, Jews, Mormons, Catholics and many others of faith-to come together to take a stand for our religious freedoms and rights."
https://web.archive.org/web/20150222160421/https://billygraham.org/decision-magazine/october-2012/can-an-evangelical-christian-vote-for-a-mormon/

JI7

(93,523 posts)
41. If they vote Republican they themselves most likely hate some other groups also
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:26 PM
Friday

so unlikely they will leave.

maxsolomon

(38,585 posts)
42. LOL, right.
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:33 PM
Friday

99.9% of Repuke Catholics (like my Westside Cincy relatives) will never hear what this Fundy clown thinks about them.

Conservative Fundies have always whinged about the RCC but THEY ARE CRAZIER BY FAR. As crazy, or MORE crazy, than the Momos.

They're all cults - all Monotheisms.

B.See

(8,330 posts)
46. "...the GOP which is NOW anti Catholic?"
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 03:46 PM
Friday

I think (in practice at least) the GOP has long been anti-Catholic, ever since their ideological kinsmen/Klansmen donned robes and pointy hoods to terrorize Catholics (and Jews) back around the 1920's (if not before).

They're just less inclined to disguise the sentiment these days.

ChicagoTeamster

(841 posts)
48. These are the people that want to force TPUSA and extreme Christian nationalist viewpoints down everyone's throats
Fri Mar 13, 2026, 06:04 PM
Friday

Not every Pope was well liked by the American public nor was every Evangelical leader but Catholics and other mainline protestant denominations never tried to ban other denominations from practicing their faith.

This is the Lenten season for Catholics and Orthodox Christians. Evangelicals make up approximately 20% of the US population but extremists like Pete Hegseth's pastor and Trump's child raping faith advisor Robert Morris hate the current Pope and the previous Pope for their messages based in Christ's love which contradict the white supremacist hate they preach.

Response to Kingofalldems (Original post)

LeftInTX

(34,180 posts)
67. W Bush courted the Catholic vote. "Mexico is our friend"
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 10:13 AM
Saturday

Bush knew how to integrate himself in the Latino community.


Several of my in-laws are Latino evangelicals. They voted for Trump in 2016. Now they hate him. It's immigration.

However, their change in stance didn't impact the 2024 election.

valleyrogue

(2,682 posts)
70. If it weren't for the Catholic Church, which goes clear back almost to the time of Christ,
Sat Mar 14, 2026, 10:37 AM
Saturday

if it weren't for traditional protestants, there wouldn't be these crackpots who twist the Bible and the Book of Revelation based on whacko nonsense by a Scotsman who came up with these notions after he fell off a horse and hit his head. If it weren't for John Nelson Darby's beliefs about things that aren't in the Bible (the Rapture) or made up interpretations of apocalyptic literature (the Book of Revelation), there wouldn't be the charismatic and Pentecostal groups that have infested Christianity over the past two centuries. If it weren't for crackpots like Rousas J. Rushdoony, who further misinterpreted the Bible for political ends, Doug Wilson wouldn't be around to pollute public discourse.

Wilson is a psychopath, just like his idol Rushdoony.

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