We assume Americans value hard work, competence, honesty, integrity.

The voting data tells this is not true.

One third value these things.
One third value dishonesty, crimes, hatred, racism.
One third don't give a damn.

So the problem is much bigger than just getting a better PR team for Dems.

... who refuse to vote for a minority candidate no matter how qualified they might be.

US F’d up twice when it came for Hillary and VP Harris. However, US did manage to elect Pres. Obama twice and that got the Tea Party/MAGA in a bind.

Not to discount or minimize race

And MAGAts that have rudimentary knowledge of history say it's linear and not cyclical.

All the public shootings with military grade weapons.

Gun violence is the leading cause of death for American children.

No vaccines, no healthcare, closing hospitals.

So we are in a civil war with daily deaths.

No one cares enough to do anything about it.

Way too many Americans are guided and misinformed by an algorithm from their constant use of social media .
Way too many do not even know how to search for factual information or just don’t care to.
Confirmation bias is what they seek because it gives them the warm fuzzies and stokes their rage.

… from the quagmire we find ourselves in.

As far as major media coming to our aid, forget about that. The owners of major media will not allow that to happen.

You say we can pass laws that breakup media monopolies. Well, review Chomsky’s Manufacturing Consent. It would be difficult back then (1981), impossible now. Institutional capture (by the oligarchy and their well paid agents in the major media, courts, Congress, and Presidential Administrations) make that a momentous task. Never mind that the rot descends all the way down to local governments, school boards, and the like.

You may say major media has lost its grip on the American mind, splintered by social media. So there’s hope. However, what we have now is splintered encampments that only listen to their own camps, to the ideas entrained in the brains of so many of us by 40-45 years of oligarchy.

There is no Walter Conkrite to our rescue (and if you’ve read the Chomsky reference, above, you understand that he, too, primarily championed the causes of the “establishment”). Nor is there a website (other than DU, of course) that speaks truth to power over a wide audience.

Honestly, I could rant on. I don’t know how we dig ourselves out of the mess we’re in. There was the Civil War, the Civil Rights movement, the anti war movement that helped bring about the end of the forever war in Vietnam. But my mind is not creative enough to see what’s next.

I don’t know how or if it will end

They work! And it's cheaper than buying up all the media, and probably reaches more people anyway!

Looking at Politico, CNN, NBC News, and MSNOW all have negative stories about Trump featured prominently. The New Yorker Politics podcast the last couple of weeks has primarily been about being unprepared for Iran.

He got a pass on trying to overthrow the government and so much more, while one off night made Joe Biden a comatose imbecile.

Also, Harris was never good enough for the American media

But, it was not 'biased media' that refused to prosecute that orange gibbon or his cronies on January 7th, 2021.

The media coverage of Trump has historically been very negative. Maybe not as negative as we would like, but that's not their job.

is that the ONLY bipartisanship that exists in this country, is when the left and the right team up to attack the left.

You'll see it regarding the Epstein files, where anyone on the "left", no matter how innocuous their connection, will lose their positions (political, professional, or academic), while those on the "right" will hold their positions, even if there is video of them dancing with Epstein while oogling 12 year old girls.

Unlike Democrats, Retrumplicans are NEVER required, nor expected to hold their leaders accountable.

See Al Franken for example #127,543 of this phenomenon.

And it's hard to blame platforms anyway. If you're talking about the red pill podcasts, that's not really traditional media and it's unfortunately driven by the audience of men who are looking for other people to blame. Not really like it's being pushed by anyone other than their audience.

It began with Cambridge Analytica using psyops to radicalize people through social media.

We are not doing and have not done anything to push people in the opposite direction.

We should.

In the grand scheme, a bot farm would be a good investment.

from all sides still left me with a bad taste in my mouth

It was shameful.

We have too many people clinging to what worked in old elections. We are a long way from 2008, perhaps not in years but certainly in the social media landscape and the economic realities facing younger voters today. There seems to be little recognition of a new reality by the entrenched wing of the Party.

Exactly what Tim Walz was saying

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DVtT5ccjcBp/]

Hopefully someone in the DNC monitors this site

I'd say the median age of DemocraticUnderground members is close to 60 or older. Is there a way we could attract a younger membership?

I'm 53 but I assume you mean GenZ

Namely, women.

They see women as disposable. This doesn't mean all men. I appreciate our male allies.

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There views are in line with FDR, Truman, the Kennedys, LBJ and HHH.

THAT'S how far to the right we've been pushed.

I think there's room for moderate & progressives.

like Fetterman...than no. We need to fight for what is right...we need to move left as a party. The GOP will never work with us no matter how 'moderate' we are. Time for the next generation to step up...and if we want young vote for our Democratic party, we won't get in the way.

He's a lost cause. I meant that moderates need to be receptive to the liberal wing of the party. I reread my original post and I seem to have conveid that pointed rather poorly.

Just my anecdotal observance but I think the Dem base is moving left. It feels like the opposite because disaffected Rs switching to D get a lot of attention. But, I do think the WI supreme court race might have been a moment when Ds looked at the money Elon spent and figured out how to use it against the candidate.

What has all this moderation gotten us? Schumer orchestrated a vote that killed the ACA and Democrats voted for it...if any of them are running again, we need to primary them.

We need to be talking about how we are going to make a difference in people's lives.

and must be destroyed.

https://www.freepress.net/who-owns-media

Biden had Covid for God's sake...we need loyalty...it was to late for a new candidate. I love Kamala Harris and was proud to vote for her. But it was too late...reminded me of when Johnson was pushed out over the Vietnam war...and we lost. And the war went on for years...Nixon won two terms and then we had Watergate. We need to stand up for our members...consider Al Franken. I look forward to a move left and loyalty, loyalty loyalty.

...like a used Kleenex. I'm still pissed, too.