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BlueWaveNeverEnd

(13,925 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 04:20 AM 22 hrs ago

Tucker Carlson: "Unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter if they want

https://www.rawstory.com/tucker-carlson-2675914363/

Conservatives flip out as MAGA icon makes 'truly unhinged' prediction about US troops

Republican lawmakers, conservative pundits and military veterans reacted with revulsion over the weekend at comments made by podcaster Tucker Carlson on Friday, in which he predicted that US troops would go on a campaign of sexual assault in Iran if the country agreed to Donald Trump’s “unconditional surrender" terms.

In an interview with “Breaking Points” co-host Saagar Enjeti, the former Fox News personality reacted to the “unconditional surrender” comments amplified by White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt, by telling the podcast host, “Unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter if they want — and everyone knows that.”
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Tucker Carlson: "Unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter if they want (Original Post) BlueWaveNeverEnd 22 hrs ago OP
Well Hogshit said there are no rules of engagement fujiyamasan 22 hrs ago #1
Hard to believe there are Americans that talk like that Walleye 22 hrs ago #2
It's becoming less hard to believe every day. LoisB 15 hrs ago #31
To the victor, go the spoils UpInArms 20 hrs ago #3
That's it... they think of war as a video game viva la 20 hrs ago #4
That was the history of war long before video games EdmondDantes_ 18 hrs ago #11
True UpInArms 17 hrs ago #12
For starters . . . . . no_hypocrisy 19 hrs ago #5
There was someone on DU recently saying that the victors never face war crimes, so "all good" maxrandb 19 hrs ago #6
WTF? 2naSalit 18 hrs ago #7
When dealing with a bag of rancid excrement... GiqueCee 18 hrs ago #8
I like that imagery MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #35
How is that a 'truly unhinged' prediction ? vanessa_ca 18 hrs ago #9
Because our American troops don't win and start raping Melon 18 hrs ago #10
Mahmudiyah rape and killings CatWoman 17 hrs ago #13
While Of Course Reprehensible, Five Soldiers Is A Pretty Small Sample. ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #17
Look up US military civilian rape in Korea and Vietnam, just for starters. niyad 13 hrs ago #39
Bullshit. It's a problem even during peacetime vanessa_ca 17 hrs ago #15
Not What He Was Referencing, Though. ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #18
But it is what I referenced in the post he replied to vanessa_ca 17 hrs ago #19
That's not systematic rape.... Melon 16 hrs ago #21
Look up US military civilian rape in Korea and Vietnam, for starters. niyad 13 hrs ago #40
Because He Is Implying That Our WW2 Troops Raped And.... ColoringFool 17 hrs ago #16
Oh they actually did. WhiskeyGrinder 16 hrs ago #22
While we certainly didn't do the rape thing anywhere near the scale of Russia indusurb 16 hrs ago #23
Is Tucker in the files by chance? durablend 17 hrs ago #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Renew Deal 16 hrs ago #20
and they wonder why we women want the equal rights amendment ratified, when men resort to such thoughts lindysalsagal 16 hrs ago #24
Rec'd, but just a note that Tucker had warned against starting this war and was warning about "unconditional surrender" vanessa_ca 15 hrs ago #27
Oh context?!! Now there is a novel thought... AloeVera 15 hrs ago #30
Exactly. It was a warning. vanessa_ca 14 hrs ago #36
And Tucker will be around PlanetBev 16 hrs ago #25
Even as a woman? ...Can I slap his God-Damn face 16 times via telephone? chouchou 15 hrs ago #26
Why? He was warning against that happening if Trump pursued an "unconditional surrender" vanessa_ca 15 hrs ago #28
I understand. (Woke up late) I'll still slap his face, just for fun. chouchou 15 hrs ago #32
Haha, if only we could do it together at the same time. vanessa_ca 14 hrs ago #34
"Your" wife, "your" daughter leftstreet 15 hrs ago #29
Must be one of Tucker's main fantasies CanonRay 14 hrs ago #33
Tucker always with the testicles Kid Berwyn 14 hrs ago #37
OMG MorbidButterflyTat 14 hrs ago #38
Rape is, and always has been, one of the weapons of war, however niyad 13 hrs ago #41
Living in a nation long overdue for a public conversation contrasting "historically normal" with "socially desirable" 0rganism 13 hrs ago #42

UpInArms

(54,793 posts)
3. To the victor, go the spoils
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 06:11 AM
20 hrs ago

Ugggg …

No rules of engagement … fighting a manly man war with real warriors

Do they rape and pillage in video games?

EdmondDantes_

(1,681 posts)
11. That was the history of war long before video games
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 08:52 AM
18 hrs ago

Yes we have constrained the actions of most state militaries, but there are still similar examples in modern war.

UpInArms

(54,793 posts)
12. True
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:02 AM
17 hrs ago

It is a sad day when the US military is being encouraged to commit war crimes and atrocities

no_hypocrisy

(54,769 posts)
5. For starters . . . . .
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 07:00 AM
19 hrs ago

Think of "unconditional surrender" as pirates on land, not a ship.

Plunder, rape, terrorize, assume possession and ownership.

maxrandb

(17,388 posts)
6. There was someone on DU recently saying that the victors never face war crimes, so "all good"
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 07:01 AM
19 hrs ago

Sickening!

It's like saying since some rapes, fraud and assaults go unprosecuted, you could be preside........

Oh! NEVERMIND!

GiqueCee

(3,929 posts)
8. When dealing with a bag of rancid excrement...
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 08:40 AM
18 hrs ago

... like Tucker Carlson, he must be deprived of the oxygen of attention that he constantly craves. He will say and/or do anything to be the center of attention because he is a psychopath. Ignore him. Refuse to give him a soapbox from which to spew his vitriol. Pay no attention to him whatsoever. He will slither back into the sewer that spawned him, and wallow in his resentment, whining into the darkness.

vanessa_ca

(832 posts)
9. How is that a 'truly unhinged' prediction ?
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 08:42 AM
18 hrs ago

Rape is a big problem during peacetime. Even active-duty females get raped. I don't see what's 'truly unhinged' prediction about what he said.

Melon

(1,467 posts)
10. Because our American troops don't win and start raping
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 08:50 AM
18 hrs ago

It’s an insulting premise to even print. Our troops are the same people that have always been militarily despite the president. They just didn’t switch out a year ago.

Tucker needs to just go away. He says anything for attention just to get negative viewers.

vanessa_ca

(832 posts)
15. Bullshit. It's a problem even during peacetime
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:25 AM
17 hrs ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault_in_the_United_States_military
and it's worse during war time.
This is a common problem in all militaries.

Lying about it is ridiculous

vanessa_ca

(832 posts)
19. But it is what I referenced in the post he replied to
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:49 AM
17 hrs ago

Good Lord. Soldiers who rape during peacetime, even as far as raping fellow soldiers, are even worse during war time. Believe, or pretend to, what you want. Some discussions aren't worth wasting time with.

niyad

(131,749 posts)
40. Look up US military civilian rape in Korea and Vietnam, for starters.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 01:18 PM
13 hrs ago

Look up US military civilian rape period. Not "systematic"??? Your posts seem to excuse its existence because, however prevalent throughout its history, it is not "systematic"??? Am I reading your posts correctly? Out of curiosity, how much rape is acceptable before it becomes "systematic"?

ColoringFool

(594 posts)
16. Because He Is Implying That Our WW2 Troops Raped And....
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 09:33 AM
17 hrs ago

Plundered en masse in Germany and Japan, and where is the evidence?

Our ALLY the SOVIET UNION wrought vengeance upon Germanfolk, that seems to be true.

indusurb

(338 posts)
23. While we certainly didn't do the rape thing anywhere near the scale of Russia
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:30 AM
16 hrs ago

We did our fair share of plundering. Stories have popped up here and there of GIs taking gold, jewels and other valuables they stumbled across. More than one packed up a car clandestinely and shipped it home after the war. Knew a friend of a friend of my family who stumbled across an "abandoned" Mercedes 540k in the garage of a bombed out house. He packed in grease, oilcloth and a plywood box, stashed in under rubble, went home and was discharged, came back to Germany as a civilian a year and a half later, dug it up and shipped it home. Got to see it once, beautiful car.

It's war, these things happen more than you think, people just don't talk much about them afterwards.

Response to BlueWaveNeverEnd (Original post)

lindysalsagal

(22,890 posts)
24. and they wonder why we women want the equal rights amendment ratified, when men resort to such thoughts
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:47 AM
16 hrs ago

vanessa_ca

(832 posts)
27. Rec'd, but just a note that Tucker had warned against starting this war and was warning about "unconditional surrender"
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 11:07 AM
15 hrs ago

and how unacceptable it was the Trump considered sending ground troops because many soldiers don't come back the same and some break and do things they'd never do in peacetime or back at home. I'm no Tucker fan, but on Trump's broken promises and on this war, he's been spot on.

Here's the full context where he was talking about the madness of trying to pursue an unconditional surrender in Iran and how rape is happens with that. It starts at minute 21

"It takes Ulysses Grant who is willing to sacrifice literally hundreds of thousands of casualties for an entire year-long period to get to that point. That's what unconditional surrender means. And that is what the president has been demanding. And I want every American to realize that unconditional surrender if that is the true demand and it is now. He said President Trump said make Iran great again. Uh this morning that is can only be enforced with an ocean of American blood and that is not something in our national interest. We are walking every single day closer to that possibility and it is an abomination if you ask me.
Unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter if they want. And everyone knows that. And that has been, if there's one consistent lesson of history, it means unconditional surrender means foreign troops get to rape your wife and daughter. Everyone can feel that. That's like the most sadistic instinct there is. And so, to avoid that, people will do anything. And so that's why it requires that level of force to get a population subdued to the point of unconditional surrender. That's why. And so, in this case, of course, we don't have the ground force necessary. I don't think Americans would voluntarily participate in it. I just don't think we can do that. It would require weapons of mass destruction. It would require presumably nuclear weapons in order to do that. And let's stop let's not lie to ourselves. We're moving toward that.

Here's the video


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AloeVera

(4,197 posts)
30. Oh context?!! Now there is a novel thought...
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 11:33 AM
15 hrs ago

It's a warning and condemnation, not a nod to permission.

That is has to come from Tucker Carlson is just sad.

Thank you vanessa_ca

vanessa_ca

(832 posts)
36. Exactly. It was a warning.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 12:20 PM
14 hrs ago

My mom told me about the horrific, systemic rapes at Abu Ghraib and we know about the rapes of Palestinian prisoners that are accepted and defended by Israeli society, like that famous recent case where they marched on the prison where IDF rapists were to free them.

Let me just paste this link here before someone foolishly pops up with twisted, delusional denials that the IDF doesn't rape. I can't believe anyone of sound mind won't admit that rape is rampant in wartime.

https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2024/08/israels-escalating-use-torture-against-palestinians-custody-preventable

And I agree, it's sad that it's former MAGA types like Tucker and MTG sounding alarms.

PlanetBev

(4,411 posts)
25. And Tucker will be around
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 10:53 AM
16 hrs ago

To tell the ladies that they can’t have abortions if they get pregnant.

vanessa_ca

(832 posts)
28. Why? He was warning against that happening if Trump pursued an "unconditional surrender"
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 11:11 AM
15 hrs ago

I think that needed to be brought up so mothers and wives would understand that madness Trump is considering sending their sons and wives into.

Although, I'd happily join you to slap his face 16 times for other things.

vanessa_ca

(832 posts)
34. Haha, if only we could do it together at the same time.
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 12:13 PM
14 hrs ago

We could do it to "Miss Mary Mack, Mack, Mack, All dressed in black, black, black" lol

Kid Berwyn

(24,094 posts)
37. Tucker always with the testicles
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 12:24 PM
14 hrs ago

Tucker's Testicular Tanner shows the guy thinks with his little head a lot.



His mind would make an interesting study if he had one.

MorbidButterflyTat

(4,424 posts)
38. OMG
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 12:30 PM
14 hrs ago

This shrugging off disgusting crap from a MAGAt asshole like, oh well! Rape happens, he's just telling the truth!

Filthy accusations against the US military, do those include relatives on DU? Or the veterans?

I particularly appreciate women being referred to as "the spoils."

This is too sickening.

niyad

(131,749 posts)
41. Rape is, and always has been, one of the weapons of war, however
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 01:24 PM
13 hrs ago

much it is ignored or denied. But is bowtie boy cautioning against it, or glorifying it?

0rganism

(25,580 posts)
42. Living in a nation long overdue for a public conversation contrasting "historically normal" with "socially desirable"
Tue Mar 10, 2026, 01:48 PM
13 hrs ago

It's long past time for humanity to gather its collective shit and figure out the goddam basics. What kind of society do we actually want? What is an appropriate age of consent? What constitutes adequate proof of identity? When is a person's word their bond? What rights should we afford prisoners? What minimal health care and safety standards should apply for every human? Which communicable diseases shall we accept as endemic? Is literacy a human right?

Maybe the foundation AIs can be trained up to present solutions, since we humans seem incapable of coming up with generally acceptable answers to simple questions that any interstellar tourist would consider before spending a galactic dime on our planet.

We act like we're so damn advanced, but we flounce around like Temu Vikings in cheap suits while we leave important questions unanswered and interesting thoughts unthunk. In an age of global telecommunications and automated language translation, we have no remaining excuses -- not anymore.

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