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pat_k

(13,186 posts)
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 12:33 PM Yesterday

Re: Speaking Filibuster: How long do you think they could hold the floor???

If I understand correctly, with a speaking filibuster if each opponent of the bill speaks for at least 12 hours, that only gets you 40-50 days or so (Thune can recess instead of adjourning to keep the same legislative day, and a Senator can only speak twice on the same "day." )

Does that sound about right? Or are there factors or rules I'm missing?

If Thune does comply with the felon's demand and forces a speaking filibuster, the felon may regret it as the filibuster generates daily news with best bits going viral and endless speculation on how long they can go -- with highly motivated and fit Senators vying to break Booker's record.

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rampartd

(4,499 posts)
1. they can begin by reading the epstein material into the record
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 12:44 PM
Yesterday

reading in shifts they can go 24/7 forever i think. there is plenty to read.

pat_k

(13,186 posts)
3. I think the rule is that each Senator can only speak twice in a legislate "day."
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 12:52 PM
Yesterday

If Thune recesses instead of adjourning, then the next calendar day is still the same legislative "day."

So that would mean each Senator only has two shots at holding the floor. I'm not sure that all of those who would vote against the bill would be willing to join the effort. I think they reached the 50 votes for it with Collins getting on board last month. So the question becomes how long can 48-50 senators or so hold the floor if each one does their two sessions of speaking.

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Fiendish Thingy

(22,877 posts)
4. But if each senator can speak twice, then that is potentially 80 calendar days
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:00 PM
Yesterday

Not counting days in recess, which there will be plenty of.

Now some senators are too frail to go for 12 hours, and some may speak for longer, but with some organization and , more importantly, determination, I think it’s possible to prevent cloture on the bill before the midterms.

Practically speaking, if they can block it until September, or even July, it will be dead in the water.

There is talk of a $50 billion supplementary defense appropriations bill being required to fund the war in Iran; if that comes up, could the Dems 1) block it by refusing to suspend the SAVE act filibuster, or 2) force an adjournment, which would restart the clock on the filibuster for the SAVE act?

pat_k

(13,186 posts)
5. If the average is 12 and each senator speaks their maximum two sessions, it all depends on how many legislative "days"
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:17 PM
Yesterday

...must be covered.

Assume the Senate stays in session throughout, making for one legislative day, and you have 48 "filibusterers" that's 48 x12 hrs x 2 sessions each = 1152 hours or 48 calendar days.

I'm not positive, but I think if Thune recesses, when they come back, it is still the same legislative "day," but "debate" is suspended during the recess, so I think they would get a break.

If he adjourns, debate continues as "unfinished business" when they reconvene, Then it is the next legislate day, so they are back to having a full complement of available Senators.

So, we can probably assume Thune would just keep them in session until they run out of opponent Senators and steam.

There may be other tricks one side or the other can use.

Fiendish Thingy

(22,877 posts)
9. That's where the defense supplemental bill comes in
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 03:53 PM
21 hrs ago

If Trump and Hegseth want their $50 billion, they might have to surrender on SAVE.

I think they would have to adjourn, not just recess, as appropriations bills have to go through committee first and that can take several legislative “days”.

pat_k

(13,186 posts)
10. In post 6, Wiz Imp posted an excerpt that points out that Republicans would have to stay in town the entire time.
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 05:23 PM
20 hrs ago

They only need one "filibusterer" at a given time. But they would need the entire Republican conference to hang around to get their butts to the floor for any quorum calls Schumer makes.

If they fail to achieve a quorum, they need to wait or adjourn.

And any member can move to adjourn at any time. If there are more Democrats available to vote on the motion than there are Republicans, the motion would pass.

I suspect that enough Republicans might balk at the notion of being tied to DC to put the kibosh on the whole "talking filibuster" notion.

Wiz Imp

(9,774 posts)
6. From that bastion of liberalism - the Wall Street Journal editorial page
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:33 PM
Yesterday

Last edited Sun Mar 8, 2026, 03:20 PM - Edit history (2)

https://www.wsj.com/opinion/the-hot-air-of-the-talking-filibuster-b3643289?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqd8lCdtTDZV9_drwaHxIhVHuA6y_AJjjcOMRNk9lewLHxnn6dtduhPXIPv2NeM%3D&gaa_ts=69960244&gaa_sig=6wG31k_Na8eiuq4_zp59VzxAM3I1xDj4AZRmt0l4Q_RpI9KBusQD8cusML0RhzJbDc3NXG8oJVBeB0la5kfZ0A%3D%3D
The Hot Air of the Talking Filibuster
As Washington grows ever more gridlocked, members grow ever more interested in testing the filibuster. With most Republican senators adamant that they won’t abolish the procedure outright (which is for the good), some in the activist base are instead demanding Senate leaders change it, by reviving the “talking” filibuster.

Specifically, Florida Rep. Anna Paulina Luna (with support from conservative senators, like Utah’s Mike Lee) want Majority Leader John Thune to ditch “cloture,” the longstanding process that ends debate—and a bill’s progress, if there is not 60 votes. Democrats would instead be forced to actively talk to stall a vote on the SAVE Act, a House bill requiring proof of citizenship when registering to vote and photo ID at the polls. Mr. Lee summed it up: “Return to Senate tradition. Require filibustering senators to (gasp) actually speak. Using existing Senate rules. Pass the SAVE America Act.” His X post contained (surprise, surprise) nostalgic video of Jimmy Stewart waging his one-man filibuster battle against corrupt Washington.

Talking by turns: Senate Democrats are pretty much united against the SAVE Act. So it won’t be one Jimmy Stewart “holding” the floor: it’ll be 47. Under talking-filibuster rules, Democrats get two speeches apiece—each of unlimited length—simply to oppose moving on to the bill. In a total opposition scenario, that’s 94 speeches. If each Democrat spoke for, say, eight hours at a time—each twice—that’s about 750 hours (31 days) of talking. Under traditional talking-filibuster rules, there is no way to end this torture.

Then again . . . and again: Democrats can easily take turns eating, sleeping and flying home during this marathon. Only one of them needs to be on the floor giving a speech. The GOP, by contrast, will need to maintain almost all its members on the floor at all times. At any moment, Schumer might demand a quorum call—which demand 51 senators. Schumer could also move to adjourn, which would restart the legislative day—providing Democrats a whole new round of 94 speeches. Indeed, any new question or point sparks another round of speeches. What is the left’s top priority in 2026? Blocking entirely the GOP agenda. A talking filibuster provides Democrats a pain-free, headline-friendly way of taking the Senate (and by extension the entire GOP Congress) offline for a very long period
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pat_k

(13,186 posts)
7. Thanks!! Of course! I don't think Repubs will go for being forced to stay in town!
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 01:59 PM
23 hrs ago

I suspect that's what would ultimately put the kibosh on the notion.

Buckeyeblue

(6,333 posts)
8. Seems like this puts more stress on Republicans
Sun Mar 8, 2026, 02:08 PM
23 hrs ago

Because if they don't stay on the floor, there is no quorum and the legislative day can be adjourned. And then the clock restarts.

I think this is why the talking filibuster was ended. It actually puts more stress on the majority to maintain a quorum.

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