General Discussion
Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFormer Maximum Security guard does an AMA on Reddit in regards to Epstein's death.
One of the questions - What is the number one B/S thing about what happened?
A: The cameras. In any normal situation, if Jeffrey Epstein entered your facility, every OIC would have done redundant systems checks to make sure everything was working the way it's supposed to. The amount of focus and effort that would have went into making sure it was done right with him should have exceeded anything that resembles normal. That's basic human self-preservation.
They don't buy those cameras at Walmart. They are sturdy, resistant cameras with backup power that are designed to always be on. When a camera goes down it is considered emergency maintenance. Typically there would be people on the way to fix something like that immediately.
https://www.reddit.com/r/AMA/comments/1rmdi7n/im_a_former_maximum_security_correctional_officer/?share_id=pGoUDkO4nrM
whathehell
(30,431 posts)I love acronyms as much as the next person, but it can be hard to 'keep up', if you will.
Swede
(39,165 posts)I have done that..Now I await an answer.
highplainsdem
(61,524 posts)will post replies to questions that Redditors ask a day or so in advance.
whathehell
(30,431 posts)Harker
(17,704 posts)True Dough
(26,402 posts)Humanitarian
Archetype
Routinely
Kibitzing
Engaging
Repartee
Now everyone knows!
Harker
(17,704 posts)The
Relentless
Uberposter
Ensures
DUers
Occasionally
Undergo
Great
Heroics
Response to whathehell (Reply #1)
Another Jackalope This message was self-deleted by its author.
PatSeg
(53,123 posts)I'm really tired of obscure acronyms and very tired of looking up what they mean. Acronyms aren't efficient if people don't know what they mean.
TheRickles
(3,319 posts)My guess would be Officer in Charge, but it'd be nice to know for sure.
PatSeg
(53,123 posts)is often far less than the time we spend figuring out what they mean.
llmart
(17,534 posts)I agree with you.
PatSeg
(53,123 posts)That AMA is very diversified!
TheRickles
(3,319 posts)So was the guard saying that Epstein died against medical advice? (insert emoji for dark humor)
PatSeg
(53,123 posts)To use a quote from Bertolucci's 'The Last Emperor' -
If you dont know what you mean, how can you mean what you say?
PatSeg
(53,123 posts)I love that movie!
artemisia1
(1,783 posts)Caribbean island or Tel Aviv with extensive plastic surgery having been done on his face.
TBF
(36,388 posts)I do remember in some of the witness statements I've read that he mostly likely speaks Hebrew (the woman didn't know which language for sure but what she described sounded like it to me).
TheRickles
(3,319 posts)to Hebrew (ie, many "kh" sounds) to fool a non-speaker.
TBF
(36,388 posts)it would be wild if he were still alive ... who knows.
I'm honestly surprised no one has gotten to Ghislaine yet.
BattleRow
(2,278 posts)multigraincracker
(37,414 posts)In a state prison, not likely. In a federal high security prison, never.
Dont ask me how I know.
snot
(11,700 posts)One cavil: the author describes the following as constituting just one assumption: "Powerful people with a lot to lose had motive to ensure Epstein never testified. Someone with access and authority coordinated the conditions for his death or removal. The scene was managed before, during, and after." I wouldn't call that quite fair; I'd break it into:
Powerful people committed crimes and don't want to be exposed, and/or may want to continue to be able to use Epstein or his info for their own purposes, and having him alive might be the best way to further those concerns.
On behalf of those PTB, someone concocted the plan, and others had the means and opportunity to carry it out despite the risk of failure and blowback.
At least one such helper procured a corpse that looked enough like Epstein to pass for him and that had the right kind of injuries to pass for suicide.
Many helpers were successfully bribed or otherwise silenced, including not only the guards, but all those who brought him the extra sheets, took him out, drove the truck, and have dealt with him since (note that anyone who doesn't want to be exposed as having helped pull this off would now also be subject to blackmail by anyone who knew of their involvement).
Still a lot fewer assumptions than those listed in support of the official story.
Fwiw, the arguments I've seen in favor of a substitute corpse have generally claimed that the corpse's ear doesn't look like Epstein's. I've scrutinized the photo of the corpse that they've relied on and compared it to photos of Epstein alive, and I did not find the claimed discrepancy convincing; to me, it looked like it could be the same ear, just from different angles.
That said, I also saw something claiming that at least one other inmate had overheard Epstein berating himself for being too cowardly to off himself. For a while, that made me think the suicide must have been genuine; but then I realized that if Epstein knew of the plan to bust him out, he may have just been helping to set up the "suicide" interpretation. For whatever reason, I find it hard to imagine someone like Epstein berating himself for not committing suicide in a voice loud enough for others to hear.
BidenRocks
(3,158 posts)Exhumations for Epstein, the so-called assassination victim and Chumps golf course wife!
Cadaver dogs should be all over his island and Zorro.
There must be dozens. Find one!
hardluck
(777 posts)You lost me on that one. Who are you talking about?
BidenRocks
(3,158 posts)a man seated behind him.
That entire thing was Hollywood IMO!
orangecrush
(29,932 posts)calimary
(89,768 posts)AZJonnie
(3,574 posts)The self-preservation part was working i.e. the camera feeds were still going to the guard booths.
How the system was described
The cameras themselves were characterized as antiquated analog devices that fed into DVR units rather than a modern, fully digital IP-based system.
The electronics technician told investigators the equipment was old, the recording devices frequently malfunctioned, and the overall analog system was poorly maintained.
The DVR system (DVR 1 and DVR 2) relied on multiple hard drives that had a history of failures between 2017 and July 2019, culminating in the July 29, 2019 DVR 2 failure that stopped recording many cameras 12 days before Epsteins death on Aug 10, 2019.
Horowitz was Obama's pick for DoJ IG and stayed in that role through IQ45 and Biden's terms.