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THIS IS HUGE: for the first time the Dutch newspaper AD reports on possible dead girls related to the Epstein case. They stated that the investigation of the grounds of the 'baby factory' Zorro ranch very likely will include excavation work. They name the report that 2 foreign girls might be buried there. This is a reliable newspaper. The dam is breaking and we the Dutch know how to deal with it
Non Paywall. https://archive.ph/l4Ovs
Lovie777
(22,410 posts)time to bomb Iran.
Easterncedar
(5,910 posts)Wouldnt a refusal of orders be nice about now?
FalloutShelter
(14,346 posts)Go Hollanders!!!!
Chasstev365
(7,458 posts)ColoringFool
(488 posts)flashman13
(2,238 posts)Just asking for a friend.
Insert
thingy.
Wednesdays
(22,085 posts)Tens of thousands of them.
flashman13
(2,238 posts)calimary
(89,460 posts)Wednesdays
(22,085 posts)So...200,000 documents would weigh 200 pounds.
bucolic_frolic
(54,633 posts)200,000 pages divided by 500 sheets = 400 reams.
400 reams x 5 pounds - 2,000 lbs.
Wednesdays
(22,085 posts)wnylib
(25,397 posts)shanti
(21,792 posts)Wiz Imp
(9,500 posts)The only people who might know that are the pallbearers. Did one of them make a statement to that effect? Nobody else would have ever lifted it to know.
colorado_ufo
(6,211 posts)Maybe 10 pounds of ashes?
Bev54
(13,365 posts)Epstein was not stupid, if he was burying bodies he would likely not do so on his own land. They are including that in their search.
ultralite001
(2,456 posts)+ any place Krasnov may have poured concrete...
rampartd
(4,394 posts)as for the more aquatic locations, ever notice how obsessed trump is with sharks?
stupid and arrogant as these azzwholes are, there may be something there.
malaise
(294,649 posts)Very important
sop
(18,085 posts)People like Bezos, Weiss and others are making sure it's dead over here.
womanofthehills
(10,823 posts)Independent reporters and Independent podcasters with no sponsors but subscribers.
Cherokee100
(444 posts)What about Ivana Trump being buried, on his Bedminster golf course? Didn't she 'fall' down some stairs?
Response to Cherokee100 (Reply #7)
Volaris This message was self-deleted by its author.
Wiz Imp
(9,500 posts)Ivana Trump was actually cremated and a casket supposedly for her was instead filled with several classified and top secret documents to keep them hidden from federal investigators.
Rating:
Unfounded
On Sept. 20, 2022, the word "cremated" began to trend on Twitter with an unfounded rumor about the death of Ivana Trump, former U.S. President Donald Trump's first ex-wife.
She died on July 14 and was buried six days later at Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster, New Jersey. According to The New York Times, the ground at the golf club was "consecrated so Ms. Trump could have a traditional Catholic burial."
One tweet asked, "If Ivana was cremated, what was in the coffin?" A different tweet included a picture of pallbearers carrying her casket and also claimed she had been cremated. We found no shortage of tweets that pushed this completely unsupported rumor that claimed she had been cremated.
Volaris
(11,589 posts)TBF
(36,161 posts)is my understanding.
Scrivener7
(59,042 posts)for the property. He says he plans to turn it into a Christian retreat for CHILDREN!
I'm going to guess any evidence is gone.
travelingthrulife
(4,916 posts)Remember that the holiest of Christians, Betsy DeVoss, trafficked children from the southern border to other people.
Kali
(56,747 posts)his son is in it somehow. there was an article here a little while back. he's a rich texan.
swong19104
(600 posts)It would take time and effort. And lots of hush money. NM has already initiated a search.
Wednesdays
(22,085 posts)Not necessarily.
They'd have to do an awful lot of digging to destroy all the evidence. Unless Gaetz knew where all the bodies were buried.
womanofthehills
(10,823 posts)They are looking at trails. Like who knew what and when - who knew the horrors and reported to FBI and who kept quiet. Local people who worked there could have info. What happened to the babies? Were they adopted out, killed etc.
Rep Stanberry mentioned men might have even been killed there.
Wednesdays
(22,085 posts)wnylib
(25,397 posts)who wanted a White infant t9 adopt?
OR, sold to people who would raise it to be used in a pedophile set ring?
Gordcanuck
(171 posts)with the speedup of demo activity. Evidence of other kinds is still being unearthed, such as the photo of Bill,Clinton sitting on a couch at E-steins island with his arm around a younger lady with face obscured. Hell be asked about that one for sure whether in public or not.
KPN
(17,249 posts)important, no?
dalton99a
(93,111 posts)ColoringFool
(488 posts)evolves
(5,806 posts)too numerous to count
travelingthrulife
(4,916 posts)to be buried all over the place. Although females are easier to traffic, I suppose.
They can start working immediately in Trump's Sex Trafficking and Blackmail Services, Inc. Clarence Thomas likes them at 5 years old I hear.
LiberalArkie
(19,566 posts)Last edited Thu Feb 19, 2026, 01:15 PM - Edit history (1)
Edited to add: to the pedophiles and abusers. Really do not know why, but that has always been the thing it seemed like growing up. Probably no one ever believed a boy when they told someone.
mysteryowl
(8,981 posts)It reminded me that Trump buried his ex-wife in one of his golf courses. How odd that was.
And it is an idea 99.9% of humanity would not have as a 'good location' for the ex-wife.
(It was said she died falling down the stairs)
Trueblue Texan
(4,286 posts)falling out of windows.
womanofthehills
(10,823 posts)Epson files contain descriptions of girls being chocked, bitten, bleeding from everywhere- mouth, vagina, butt, painful sex toys, fisting girls - all beyond evil sick. These monsters need to be punished.
2na fisherman
(291 posts)The "Epstein Class" feels entitled to treat people as objects to be sexually abused. And the real fear about their sex scandals is not that they will be revealed as sex perverts, which is understood by them to be having forbidden sex for fun with impunity. But the levels of depravity go beyond sex and drift into the evil worlds of cannibalism, torture and those once-rumored snuff films. Sadistic sex perverts seeking ultimate thrills are not gratified by rape. Some feel compelled to dominate their victims to the point of making them suffer and taking away their lives as if they could become gods of life and death-- some ultimate power trip for those twisted personalities who are all id and are amoral. To them, morality applies to the starving masses, never them. Today those wealthy types may be investigated for their possible involvement with murder. And this may continue to haunt them since they can't easily bribe their way out of it, or successfully cover it up.
Escape
(419 posts)I will note that disposing of bodies in or under concrete slabs would insure that all evidence is lost forever.
cer7711
(611 posts).... before revealing the location of those (supposed) graves.
This might be nothing more than a wild rumor/shake-down attempt .
Of course, an allegation this serious needs to be looked into.
Just be careful, please, reporting unsubstantiated rumors/shakedown attempts as verified facts.
Ilikepurple
(520 posts)Perhaps the newspaper should be careful as some are confused by the word possible? Im wary of the more horrid and seemingly outlandish claims about the Epstein affair, but Im not sure that anyone here knows what information is getting to the various interested government and journalists or its evidential support. So, Im also wary of those who take what information they know as the entirety of whats available.
wnylib
(25,397 posts)not an article by a reporter.
IcyPeas
(25,213 posts)Algemeen Dagblad
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Algemeen_Dagblad
wnylib
(25,397 posts)UTUSN
(77,386 posts)leftstreet
(39,736 posts)progressoid
(52,905 posts)Google lens translate (I don't read Dutch)
ZORRO RANCH
New Mexico Investigates Plan for Super Race and Potential Victims
Did Jeffrey Epstein's 'baby factory' really exist?
Jeffrey Epstein hatched a terrifying plan to set up a baby factory on his New Mexico ranch for a "master breed." The extent of his plan and the number of victims he claimed are being investigated seven years after his death.
Sanne Scheffaut
Rotterdam
A joint Republican-Democrat mission is investigating, among other things, whether the ranch's infrastructure (such as the unusually large living quarters and medical facilities) was intended for the haberdashery. They are investigating whether there are any indications that children were actually born there or whether the plan was in its early stages.
Female victims of abuse at the ranch are also being interviewed, and the commission members also revealed that special attention is being paid to an anonymous tip from 2019, which can also be found in the documents released last month.
This tip, sent via email to a local radio host seven years ago, indicates that two foreign girls are buried in the hills near the ranch. This is said to have been done on the orders of Epstein and "Madam G" (presumably
Ghislaine Maxwell...
leftstreet
(39,736 posts)Response to LiberalArkie (Original post)
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reACTIONary
(7,087 posts).... there aren't any dead girls. This all Q-crap CT bullshit.
It is unlikely that anyone will "excavate" at the Zoro ranch. They are just going to interview witnesses. Who won't provide any information that is important or isn't already known.
LiberalArkie
(19,566 posts)just ran away and people in Mississippi would never harm them.
reACTIONary
(7,087 posts).... there are no bodies. This is Q Anon style CT trash.
oberle
(327 posts)reACTIONary
(7,087 posts).... back in the 60's when Mississippi people and Arkansas people were claiming that the 3 civil rights workers just ran away, we knew who they were and we knew they were actually missing.
Who are these girls who have allegedly been murdered? Who has reported them missing?
A better comparison is to the satanic cult moral panic in which it was claimed that children were being sacrificed - but no children were missing.
This is a ludicrous Q-Anon, Pizza-gate type moral panic. I'll be so glad when this fiasco is over.
womanofthehills
(10,823 posts)Lots of info in Epstein files and Rep Stanberry saw some redacted files. Im sure she concentrated on the ranch files. She wants to know who knew what and when.
reACTIONary
(7,087 posts).... basically means "there's no evidence."
Evolve Dammit
(21,676 posts)Skittles
(170,470 posts)canetoad
(20,526 posts)I fervently hope there is viable DNA to be collected. Identify them.
John1956PA
(4,900 posts). . . any investigators in the other Northwestern European countries, lest someone like this guy might come calling:
