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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIf the Republicans lose both the House and Senate in the midterms this year Trump will be impeached and very
possibly convicted. Given this, and his lack of morality, isn't it almost certain that he will flood Blue States with ICE officers (thugs) to suppress the vote and terrorize the populace to prevent a Democratic election victory?
What can we do to prepare for this eventuality?
EdmondDantes_
(1,553 posts)There's not enough ICE agents to do much if they tried to spread out to every local precinct anyway.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,482 posts)Unless he invades Greenland or Canada, or something emerges from the Epstein files (which a Dem congress could investigate thoroughly)that suddenly gives Republicans the courage to remove him.
No it is nowhere certain, or even physically possible for that to happen.
To be sure, there will be plenty of ratfuckery and shenanigans, but as we saw in 2020, the states arent going to stand back and let Trump do whatever desperate flailing he has in mind.
Do not succumb to defeatist Doomerism, and never forget this one absolute truth:
Trump is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless
Dan
(5,041 posts)it might be possible, maybe more than likely.
Fiendish Thingy
(22,482 posts)There is a faction amongst the Dems that is hesitant to impeach Trump if they regain the majority.
stopdiggin
(15,198 posts)And how would that garner the 67 necessary to remove .. ?
Dan
(5,041 posts)You would not know how individual Senators voted.
That's why he wasn't convicted before - the Senate Leader (Mitch) ensured that how you voted was recorded.
I think that during that time - even Mitch said that if they had a secret ballot, Trump might have been toast.
stopdiggin
(15,198 posts)ITAL
(1,286 posts)Should Democrats take the Senate, we'll likely only have a seat or two majority. We're not getting 15-16 Republicans to vote for conviction.
stopdiggin
(15,198 posts)and even if possible (there's a whole heck of a lot of landmass, counties, and polling places in this country) it would only amount to a marginal player in any voter suppression playbook.
I.e., they have other methods (and plans) - that are quietly effective, and this one is not very workable, or efficient.
(which is not to say that the fat ass might not DO something like this - but mostly just for sh*ts and giggles - and headlines - not as any sort of real 'strategy')
303squadron
(793 posts)For conviction in the Senate you need 2/3 of the Senators to vote for that conviction.
Currently the senate has 47 Democrats and Independents.
No one is suggesting that the Democrats can pick up 20 Senate seats especially in very red states. Very possibly convicted?
Nope. Remember what Romney said about previous impeachment votes in the Senate? Senators were receiving death threats to their families if they voted to impeach.
leftstreet
(39,555 posts)Majorities in both houses would be sweet, but probably won't happen
All the same he should spend his last two years in office with his declining health, impeached, hated, thwarted at every turn by his own fundraising party, powerless, booed in public.
Scrivener7
(58,924 posts)At the end it quotes Adam Smith, a Dem on the armed services committee saying a lot of, "We're discussing," and "we should" and we want to" statements.
I appreciate that it is best not to broadcast Democrats' plans if they exist, so I guess we just have to hope and pray they do.
mopinko
(73,437 posts)expect a lot more bomb threats, and fewer polling places in blue parts of red states.
but they will focus on the bluest districts. i hope dem govs have the national guard ready to roll, and blue cities have the cops on the lookout.
there r contingency plans in the works rn.
Wiz Imp
(9,363 posts)Democrats will still win in the most extremely Democratic districts, no matter what ratfuckery Republicans try.
For example, Trump has singled out Philadelphia as a city where Democrats "cheat". The primary Congressional District covering Philadelphia is PA-3. In 2024 Republicans didn't even run a candidate there.
A second Philadelphia District is PA-2. Brendan Boyle the Democrat won this district by 71.5% to 28.5% in 2024, a difference of over 116,000 votes. Republicans aren't winning that district no matter what they do.
