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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsICE constraints in funding bill MUST include NO ICE or other Feds near polling places!
Not DEMANDING that would be utterly incompetent by the Democrats! It's probably the main thing we need to do to save democracy! Let's face it: the upcoming disruptions/corruption of the elections by ICE and the other Feds is the bottom line point behind the brutal immigration crackdown. They want Feds in Blue precincts in key races to scare voters away, close and disrupt polling places, etc., to steal the election. THAT'S how they will try to do it, and we MUST prevent that!
Scrivener7
(58,850 posts)absolutely sure we'll get them?
littlemissmartypants
(32,769 posts)leftstreet
(39,469 posts)we are so fucked
gab13by13
(31,611 posts)tableturner
(1,827 posts)This is too important. We have to be sure. If they steal this one, it's over!
gab13by13
(31,611 posts)Schumer and Jeffries need to say that when Democrats regain power they will prosecute ICE goons who went to polling places.
tableturner
(1,827 posts)gab13by13
(31,611 posts)what else do you suggest we do? Threaten to prosecute them when impartial people get back in DOJ.
Have the governor protect polling places with the National Guard? Not all states have Democratic governors.
tableturner
(1,827 posts)bluestarone
(21,621 posts)I'm thinking, (tell me if i'm wrong) they can be around so many feet (YARDS) away from poling place. I'm thinking they will be x amount of feet away just to be legal. I want them Many miles away. NO MASKS as well. It has to be CLEAR rules with no LOOPHOLES!!
gab13by13
(31,611 posts)bluestarone
(21,621 posts)yaesu
(9,121 posts)littlemissmartypants
(32,769 posts)mzmolly
(52,713 posts)Its labeled sensitive locations or something along those lines.
tableturner
(1,827 posts)If we lose this election, democracy will be finished! Use EVERYTHING at our disposal.
mzmolly
(52,713 posts)Id prefer that we just dont fund the fuckers.
Old Crank
(6,765 posts)I was going to say 500 miles.
2na fisherman
(275 posts)Who is going to enforce this? Local police and/or state national guard? So will there be gun battles between them and the start of a new Civil War fought over state's rights to run elections? ICE and company have already shown they are willing to kill citizens who they deem "domestic terrorists." So they will welcome the idea of this thin pretext for engaging in mass body count events using the full might of the Federal government armed against them. I hope the Dem leadership has a plan for this.
MadameButterfly
(3,864 posts)while standing in voting lines? Would they consider that an election?
Of course, they don't even need to do that. They can make people afraid to come out in the first place.
It's amazing hearing Steve Bannon bragging that ICE will be around voting sites. He implies that somehow ICE agents will be able to tell just from looking who is voting legitimately and who isn't, or whether there is some shenanigans in the vote count. That this is how to prevent election fraud.
Or is he just admitting out loud that they are going to scare people of color away from voting, or even just a percentage of people in Blue states regardless of color? And is this what the MAGA base considers a free and fair election?
littlemissmartypants
(32,769 posts)It's The use of propagandists who make general threats on behalf of the regime to create FUD.*
The statements don't have to be reality based.
It's a classic authoritarian tactic; engineered despair.
The idea is to have us de facto destroy ourselves via autogenocide aka social murder.
That saves them the trouble.
Love, peace and shelter, MadameButterfly.
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*FEAR UNCERTAINTY & DOUBT
I understand. Trump's USA though? Let's not hand it over in its entirety just yet, please.
And keep in mind that authoritarian propagandist efforts are geared towards several things. The health care changes, removal of environmental protections etc are all part of a concept called autogenocide.
It's their push away from American values and towards Christian Nationalism. This attempts to overpower us with their unpopular and easily refuted attempts at separating us as they try pushing us away from goodness and hope towards engineered despair.
This creates a world where finding good becomes useless in one's mind and the stress it creates distracts from our ability to organize, see a better tomorrow and resist their efforts.
Awareness of autogenocide exposes how nation states and rogue governments try to drive their populations to destroy themselves. Whether through poisoned environments, collapsing healthcare, misinformation & engineered despair.
It's mass death by design & by the outright neglect of society. It's also known as Social Murder.
Of course, it's OK to get angry as long as we don't stew ourselves in it. Keeping in mind that anger is really fear in translation. So let's stay strong and encouraged because it doesn't matter what they do as long as we stay aware of their attempts at making us destroy ourselves and each other.
We won't let them win.
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MaineNative
(81 posts)Capitol Switchboard - 202-224-3121
Tell these toads to stop ICE and ban them from polling places!
littlemissmartypants
(32,769 posts)I used to live in Rockland. 👋
What's the latest from ME on the ICE invasion?
Are you doing okay?
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OGBuzz
(87 posts)littlemissmartypants
(32,769 posts)I'm just wondering how many of us have actually communicated our suggestions for the ICE negotiations to leadership?
Or are we mostly just screaming into the void?
Because I see lots of great ideas and I wonder what happens to them after they drop off of the main page here at the Democratic Underground.
Thank you for the discussion, tableturner.
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southmost
(832 posts)ice is operating above the law, these demands wont be respected
Ars Longa
(495 posts)have to pre-hammer-out an enforcement mechnanism that would work!
(Local LEO's?-- Nat'l Guard?)
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,617 posts)tableturner
(1,827 posts)We MUST keep the pressure on! Use EVERY bit of pressure available to us...if they steal this one, it's all over!
Chakaconcarne
(2,775 posts)Vinca
(53,542 posts)like someone ICE would scoop up and don't want to risk it or they show up to vote and are scooped up as they wait in line. Disappeared and unable to vote.
LetMyPeopleVote
(176,617 posts)A prominent Democratic governor recently said he was concerned about Trump deploying federal personnel to the polls. Bannon just touted that exact idea.
Eyeing midterms, Steve Bannon expects ICE agents, troops at local polling sites
— Mike Walker (@newnarrative.bsky.social) 2026-02-05T15:44:40.623Z
www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...
https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/eyeing-midterms-steve-bannon-expects-ice-agents-troops-at-local-polling-sites
The chief strategist during the presidents first term has a grim vision for the 2026 midterm elections, and it involves armed federal agents.
Youre damn right were gonna have ICE surround the polls come November, Steve Bannon said on his War Room podcast on Tuesday.
Were not gonna sit here and allow you to steal the country again, Bannon added. And you can whine and cry and throw your toys out of the pram all you want, but we will never again allow an election to be stolen.
Steve Bannon: âYouâre damn right weâre gonna have ICE surround the polls come November.â
— Ari Drennen (@aridrennen.bsky.social) 2026-02-04T19:31:41.011Z
For now, lets not dwell on the obvious fact that the 2020 election wasnt stolen. Lets instead note that the podcast host went on to say that he wouldnt be satisfied with Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents surrounding local voting precincts in November: Bannon also wants to see the deployment of active-duty military personnel.
President Trump has to nationalize the election. Youve got to put not just, I think, ICE, youve got to call up the 82nd and 101st Airborne [Divisions] on the Insurrection Act, he told his listeners. Youve got to get around every poll and make sure only people with IDs, people actually registered to vote and people that are United States citizens vote in this election.....
So when a prominent presidential ally uses his conservative media platform to talk about ICE agents and military troops being deployed to local voting precincts, were no longer at a place where its easy to shrug off such rhetoric as ridiculous.
A few months ago, Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker appeared on MS NOW and said he was concerned about the Republican administration deploying federal personnel to polling locations under the pretense of protecting the vote. With Bannon endorsing this exact scenario, its probably best not to look away too quickly.
