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mysteryowl

(8,633 posts)
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 06:48 PM 11 hrs ago

Are we safe on DU from this criminal corrupt regime?

I just read the article about a 67-year old woman being hunted by DHS for EMAIL posts.

With our screen names it helps protect us, but the NSA can find out who we are.
We post our true feelings about this horrible regime.

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Are we safe on DU from this criminal corrupt regime? (Original Post) mysteryowl 11 hrs ago OP
We aren't if we cut and run. marble falls 10 hrs ago #1
I'm curious if VPNs help with these sorts of stalking. Conjuay 10 hrs ago #2
Press On ._. 10 hrs ago #3
Give me liberty or give me death. Fuck'em. mobeau69 10 hrs ago #4
No Cirsium 10 hrs ago #5
I don't think anyone is safe either PatSeg 10 hrs ago #10
They'd literally need canetoad 9 hrs ago #17
... mysteryowl 8 hrs ago #24
It's not possible that the Earth is flat.. Permanut 8 hrs ago #26
... mysteryowl 8 hrs ago #28
I'll say it. Stop acting like Trump is omnipotent EdmondDantes_ 9 hrs ago #19
I started this thread because of how bad it is in Minnesota. mysteryowl 8 hrs ago #25
Doesn't mean we should all hide and hope his poor lifestyle fixes things EdmondDantes_ 7 hrs ago #32
I'm going to stop interacting with you now. mysteryowl 6 hrs ago #36
No one is doing that Cirsium 4 hrs ago #41
Begging your pardon? Cirsium 5 hrs ago #40
As I understand it, an email was sent by this woman and they found it threatening. Actually, no one is safe anymore Deuxcents 10 hrs ago #6
Okay. mysteryowl 10 hrs ago #7
I don't care JustAnotherGen 10 hrs ago #8
"The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed" - Steve Biko struggle4progress 10 hrs ago #9
Wise words DFW 9 hrs ago #12
Well, I'm good then because as my husband would tell you when he was alive tavernier 9 hrs ago #20
Remember the socialist regime of East Germany DFW 10 hrs ago #11
Watch for it and not let it happen. mysteryowl 9 hrs ago #14
Vigilancw is about the only hope. DFW 9 hrs ago #16
They want to control us through fear. pwb 9 hrs ago #13
My primary is anger for sure. mysteryowl 9 hrs ago #15
There is no safety in the cosmos. Alan Watts Ping Tung 9 hrs ago #18
Agent Mike knows us well... EarthFirst 8 hrs ago #21
No. None of us are safe. Happy Hoosier 8 hrs ago #22
Safety in numbers. DU is a small part of online criticism of this evil regime. It's important to continue highplainsdem 8 hrs ago #23
We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. Benjamin Franklin surfered 8 hrs ago #27
Statistically speaking on the internet, DU is very "small potatoes"--- Jack Valentino 8 hrs ago #29
Not to be a downer but... mysteryowl 8 hrs ago #30
Homeland Security is targeting Americans with this secretive legal weapon ("administrative warrant") usonian 7 hrs ago #31
If I wanted to be safe orangecrush 7 hrs ago #33
With all the shit I've talked about the fucking asshole and his nightmare rotation here.. Initech 7 hrs ago #34
... mysteryowl 7 hrs ago #35
DOGE stole most taxpayer information and has resold it . Palantir is stealing SS Data, military, Law enforcement files Bread and Circuses 6 hrs ago #37
Probably not. But we're not safe away form DU, either, so... Iggo 6 hrs ago #38
When I read about the "email woman being Cha 6 hrs ago #39
no one is safe Skittles 4 hrs ago #42
My expectation is they know where we all live. KentuckyWoman 4 hrs ago #43

Conjuay

(2,957 posts)
2. I'm curious if VPNs help with these sorts of stalking.
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 06:57 PM
10 hrs ago

I realize the government will get whatever it wants, whenever it wants it, but is a VPN somewhat effective?

Cirsium

(3,591 posts)
5. No
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 07:00 PM
10 hrs ago

I don't think anyone is safe.

But I'm sure there will be people showing up and saying "don't be silly!" so I guess everything is OK and there is nothing to worry about.

Samples:

"They can't do that." "Those charges will never stick." "The states control elections." "Time for a lawsuit." "Don't spread conspiracy theories." "Don't give up."

PatSeg

(52,513 posts)
10. I don't think anyone is safe either
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 07:30 PM
10 hrs ago

It doesn't matter who you are, everyone has some kind of vulnerability.

Permanut

(8,114 posts)
26. It's not possible that the Earth is flat..
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:38 PM
8 hrs ago

If it was, cats would have knocked everything off the edge by now.

EdmondDantes_

(1,497 posts)
19. I'll say it. Stop acting like Trump is omnipotent
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 08:47 PM
9 hrs ago

If some government agent shows up, be clear you won't speak without an attorney, and unless they have a warrant, they can talk to the closed door. They want you afraid so you don't resist. There's not enough government employees to round everyone up.

mysteryowl

(8,633 posts)
25. I started this thread because of how bad it is in Minnesota.
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:35 PM
8 hrs ago

Businesses are closed. Schools are closed or 1/2 attendance and on and on...
It is a real mess.

EdmondDantes_

(1,497 posts)
32. Doesn't mean we should all hide and hope his poor lifestyle fixes things
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 10:39 PM
7 hrs ago

The only way out is through hard work. Trump doesn't have enough law enforcement people to come harass everyone who speaks up.

Cirsium

(3,591 posts)
41. No one is doing that
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 12:51 AM
4 hrs ago

No one is saying we should all hide. But there are people in hiding right now, and for good reason. People are helping others hide. That is the hard work.

Perhaps you are struggling within yourself about this?

Trump doesn't have enough law enforcement people to come harass everyone who speaks up? Wanna bet? Have you read any history at all? Do you think telling the Gestapo they could "talk to your door" if they didn't have a warrant would have been any sort of sane strategy?

Cirsium

(3,591 posts)
40. Begging your pardon?
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 12:45 AM
5 hrs ago

Afraid so that I don't resist? What sort of convoluted logic is that? No, my friend, I have a healthy and well-founded fear so that I can. Complacency is the problem. Denial is the problem.

They can talk to the closed door? Talk is cheap. Do you have any idea what is going on? They can and will smash right through your precious door. Warrants? Since when? Not with ICE.

I can't for the life of me understand why in this crisis anyone would try to lull people or mock their very real sense of danger.

"There's not enough government employees to round everyone up?" Since when was "everyone" rounded up in any authoritarian horror show? Not in Fascist Italy. Not in Nazi Germany. Not in Pinochet's Chile. So what? How many detainees would be OK with you? How many people need to be disappeared before it will be OK with you if people are fearful?

If you feel safe and secure, good for you, but don't put others in danger by downplaying the very real dangers and dismissing people's fears.

Deuxcents

(25,937 posts)
6. As I understand it, an email was sent by this woman and they found it threatening. Actually, no one is safe anymore
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 07:00 PM
10 hrs ago

mysteryowl

(8,633 posts)
7. Okay.
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 07:27 PM
10 hrs ago

I also remember a video of woman with her husband and Secret Service came to her house asking questions about online posts. I think it was on X.

The guy asked things like, "Do you go to protests?" "Do you have any guns?"

struggle4progress

(125,661 posts)
9. "The most potent weapon in the hands of the oppressor is the mind of the oppressed" - Steve Biko
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 07:30 PM
10 hrs ago

DFW

(59,858 posts)
12. Wise words
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 07:51 PM
9 hrs ago

Trump's biggest asset among the common folk is not the crowds that cheer him, but the people who say nothing at all.

tavernier

(14,356 posts)
20. Well, I'm good then because as my husband would tell you when he was alive
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 08:48 PM
9 hrs ago

I won’t shut up.

DFW

(59,858 posts)
11. Remember the socialist regime of East Germany
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 07:49 PM
10 hrs ago

They kept an immense amount of data of every private citizen they could. They had so much data, in fact, that their "state security (Stasi) " apparatus drowned under the weight of information they had collect6ed. After socialism fell in the DDR, their citizens were allowed to look up whatever the state had collected on them. People that had never considered themselves active dissidents were amazed to find huge dossiers amassed on them. People in the DDR knew perfectly well about how their State was watching them, and nowhere near a majority of them dared to be open about their views until the regime was about to collapse. In the States, these days, although the technology is far more advanced, the numbers of the opposition are well over 50% of the population. No regime can follow up on a number of that magnitude. What they can do is make examples of a few, and thus hope to instill fear in the rest of us, but that is about it. We have to watch for that, and not let them get away with it.

DFW

(59,858 posts)
16. Vigilancw is about the only hope.
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 08:02 PM
9 hrs ago

There are signs all over the Métro in Paris, the U-Bahn in Berlin, I suspect in the Tube in London as well. They refer to bombs left in gym bags, but the posters could refer to ordinary citizens seeing or hearing about creeping measure to restrict and abolish liberty cut by cut: "If you see something, say something." City council meeting? Go. Say something. Town Hall being held by ANYBODY? Go. Say something. Have a local newspaper? Write them a letter. If they don't publish it, write them another, and get everyone you know who feels the same way to do the same thing. One person? You'll get squashed. A solid group of dedicated people? Not so easily.

pwb

(12,539 posts)
13. They want to control us through fear.
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 07:55 PM
9 hrs ago

But for some like me I turn fear into Anger. Anger I control.

Happy Hoosier

(9,445 posts)
22. No. None of us are safe.
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:17 PM
8 hrs ago

I'm not exagerrating. This is it. We stop them in 2026, or we don;t stop them.

highplainsdem

(60,731 posts)
23. Safety in numbers. DU is a small part of online criticism of this evil regime. It's important to continue
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:30 PM
8 hrs ago

speaking out because this regime is a danger to the entire planet. Trump is a malignant narcissist and psychopath showing clear signs of dementia, there are no guardrails around him, and he has control of enough weaponry to destroy the planet. We won't be any safer if we don't speak out.

We need those people fighting the regime directly, from the judges trying to rein in Trump's lawlessness to the protesters confronting ICE, to know they have support and are appreciated.

surfered

(12,258 posts)
27. We must, indeed, all hang together or, most assuredly, we shall all hang separately. Benjamin Franklin
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:38 PM
8 hrs ago

Jack Valentino

(4,618 posts)
29. Statistically speaking on the internet, DU is very "small potatoes"---
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:45 PM
8 hrs ago

if it comes to such things, "DailyKos" will be a much bigger target before anyone bothers to think of DU,
just because of the number of participants---
(other than for the little troll maggots whom our MIRs eliminate mostly after their first posts---
and which I still regret that I rarely ever am able to read, other than 'post deleted' LOL!)






mysteryowl

(8,633 posts)
30. Not to be a downer but...
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 09:49 PM
8 hrs ago

I remember when DU was targeted so badly on the election day that Hilary lost. It took a long time for them to get the site back up. I know it was bad-actors, but still, DU is known.

Initech

(107,897 posts)
34. With all the shit I've talked about the fucking asshole and his nightmare rotation here..
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 10:43 PM
7 hrs ago

They'd lock me up in about 5 seconds!

Bread and Circuses

(1,746 posts)
37. DOGE stole most taxpayer information and has resold it . Palantir is stealing SS Data, military, Law enforcement files
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 11:25 PM
6 hrs ago

We’re NOT safe anywhere.

That’s why we must NOT Give up.

Don’t hide. I’ll stand beside you,

Cha

(317,637 posts)
39. When I read about the "email woman being
Tue Feb 3, 2026, 11:44 PM
6 hrs ago

hunted.. " .. I thought.. what if they got a load of what we say about them on DU".

EarlG had a post about that once a little while ago, because someone else asked this question, but I can't remember details.. he did say something about that's why they're on FB.. so we can get in touch IF anything happens.

I think that's what I remember.. Could be not entirely accurate.. can't swear to it.

Skittles

(170,154 posts)
42. no one is safe
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 12:54 AM
4 hrs ago

but DU does self-moderate - I think any outright threats for example would be flagged

but in the end, fascists target everyone

KentuckyWoman

(7,384 posts)
43. My expectation is they know where we all live.
Wed Feb 4, 2026, 01:49 AM
4 hrs ago

Back in the early days, DU had a running joke about Agent Mike. My cousin used to take the battery out of her Tracfone when not using it so the government could not track her. When cable TV started, people worried the government would use it to see in our homes or listen in. There was a whole thing about satellites that were so good they could read the print off your book if you sat by a window. These concerns, warranted or not, have been around awhile.

Technology being what it is, I would expect if they don't know our addresses, they could within an hour or so if motivated. Not just DU, but everything communicated everywhere. In times past, we learned to live with the reality because our government didn't abuse it much. Now.... well all bets are off.

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