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bigtree

(93,669 posts)
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 06:46 PM 9 hrs ago

Hitler became obsessed with seeing a model of his planned cultural complex



Donald Trump reportedly now wants his proposed “Independence Arch” in Washington, D.C., to soar 250 feet tall, more than twice the height of the Lincoln Memorial and towering over the White House.

Two people familiar with the matter, speaking on the condition of anonymity, told The Washington Post that Trump has grown attached to the larger-than-expected scale, viewing it as a symbol of national pride ahead of America’s 250th anniversary of independence this summer.

Trump has considered smaller versions of the arch, including 165-foot and 123-foot designs that he shared with supporters at a dinner last year. But he has favored the largest option, arguing that its size would leave a lasting impression on visitors to the capital.

Set to rise near the Potomac River, the proposed arch would dramatically outsize both the White House, which stands about 70 feet tall, and the Lincoln Memorial, roughly 100 feet. The Post’s sources said Trump often cites “250 for 250” to justify the height as a tribute to the nation’s milestone anniversary.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-wants-250-ft-triumphal-arch-dwarfing-other-dc-monuments/ar-AA1Voo4t


Adolf Hitler looking at a model of Linz in the Reich Chancellery Basement in Berlin, February 9 1945. The model of the museum was set up in January 1945 in an air raid shelter (Führerbunker), located near the Reich Chancellery in Berlin. It was ready for viewing on February 9, 1945, when it was examined by Hitler.

By January 1945, Hitler became obsessed with seeing a model of the planned cultural complex; he had his adjutants and Martin Bormann, his personal secretary and head of the Nazi Party Chancellery, call Giesler's office repeatedly, to ask when the Führer could view the model. Giesler's office worked around the clock to finish it. On the night of 7–8 February, Giesler brought the model to Berlin by truck and had it set up in the cellar of the New Chancellery building, where it was ready for viewing on 9 February by Hitler, Robert Ley, the Leader of the German Labor Front, and SS-Oberguppenfūhrer Ernst Kaltenbrunner, Chief of the Security Police, along with Hitler's personal photographer Walter Frentz and his valet, Heinz Linge. Frentz took some pictures of the event, one of which shows Hitler seated in deep contemplation of the model. Hitler was apparently entranced by what he saw:

Bent over the model, he viewed it from all angles, and in different kinds of lighting. He asked for a seat. He checked the proportions of the different buildings. He asked about the details of the bridges. He studied the model for a long time, apparently lost in thought. While Geisler stayed in Berlin, Hitler accompanied him twice daily to view the model, in the afternoon and again during the night. Others in his entourage were taken down to have his building plans explained to them as they pored over the model. Looking down on the model of a city which, he knew, would never be built, Hitler could fall in reverie, revisiting the fantasies of his youth, when he would dream with his friend Kubizek about rebuilding Linz.


Hitler visited the model frequently during his time living in the bunker under the Reich Chancellery, spending many hours sitting silently in front of it. The closer Germany came to military defeat, the more viewing the model became Hitler's only relief; being invited to view it with him was an indication of the Führer's esteem.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%BChrermuseum#HeroSection


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Hitler became obsessed with seeing a model of his planned cultural complex (Original Post) bigtree 9 hrs ago OP
That last picture Cirsium 9 hrs ago #1
Dunno. If we need somewhere to hang a wannabe dictator by the heels, a simple gas station might work struggle4progress 9 hrs ago #2
I volunteer to bring the evolves 6 hrs ago #14
"viewing it as a symbol of national pride" - personal narcissistic pride for Trump Norrrm 9 hrs ago #3
I don't get arches. I especially don't get this one. Ilsa 9 hrs ago #4
So basically they've given him a fancy LEGO set to keep him occupied when all his handlers are exhausted. tanyev 9 hrs ago #5
He's demonstrating his famous "grab'em!" technique on that victory arch. Midnight Writer 9 hrs ago #6
that one was made especially for him out of white chocolate bigtree 9 hrs ago #7
Trump is doing everything that Hitler did. Blue Full Moon 9 hrs ago #8
we're in the plot phase of the movie bigtree 8 hrs ago #12
Donald isn't a student of history. Aussie105 6 hrs ago #16
"Who cares whether they laugh at us or insult us, treating us as fools or criminals? The point is that they talk about sop 9 hrs ago #9
call with, "a million dollars here, a million dollars there" bigtree 8 hrs ago #10
More of his shit to be torn down after he croaks... wcmagumba 8 hrs ago #11
Jeez canetoad 8 hrs ago #13
Not only should we demolish that, if he builds it, but also the new addition(s) Buddyzbuddy 6 hrs ago #15
Independence from what, stupid turd? Dave Bowman 6 hrs ago #17
Once he is gone . . . Aussie105 6 hrs ago #18
The Obergroppenfūhrer demands his Golden Calf NBachers 6 hrs ago #19

struggle4progress

(125,656 posts)
2. Dunno. If we need somewhere to hang a wannabe dictator by the heels, a simple gas station might work
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 06:56 PM
9 hrs ago

Ilsa

(64,001 posts)
4. I don't get arches. I especially don't get this one.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 07:01 PM
9 hrs ago

What does this have to do with Independence Day? What is going to be on it that commemorates anything historical.

tanyev

(48,826 posts)
5. So basically they've given him a fancy LEGO set to keep him occupied when all his handlers are exhausted.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 07:03 PM
9 hrs ago

Midnight Writer

(25,189 posts)
6. He's demonstrating his famous "grab'em!" technique on that victory arch.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 07:11 PM
9 hrs ago

That's the only foreplay he knows.

bigtree

(93,669 posts)
7. that one was made especially for him out of white chocolate
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 07:13 PM
9 hrs ago

...flavored like a McDonald's vanilla milkshake.

Blue Full Moon

(3,267 posts)
8. Trump is doing everything that Hitler did.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 07:17 PM
9 hrs ago

Building the yonic portal to the ballroom over the bunker. Can we skip to the end where he un-alives himself in the bunker?

bigtree

(93,669 posts)
12. we're in the plot phase of the movie
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 07:33 PM
8 hrs ago

"...the closer Germany came to military defeat, the more viewing the model became Hitler's only relief."

Next comes the resolution phase.

Aussie105

(7,714 posts)
16. Donald isn't a student of history.
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 09:40 PM
6 hrs ago

Thinks his Reich will last a thousand years.

Doomed to get the Hitler or Mussolini treatment eventually.

Hopefully.

But the Grim Reaper is a viable alternative.

Like a good cult, once the head is lost, adherents will dissipate and swear they never were followers.

History and all that.

sop

(17,840 posts)
9. "Who cares whether they laugh at us or insult us, treating us as fools or criminals? The point is that they talk about
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 07:19 PM
9 hrs ago

us and constantly think about us.” - Adolf Hitler, 'Mein Kampf'

bigtree

(93,669 posts)
10. call with, "a million dollars here, a million dollars there"
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 07:26 PM
8 hrs ago

... and I'll see you with 'something about vigilance'.

canetoad

(20,367 posts)
13. Jeez
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 07:40 PM
8 hrs ago

Maybe he can exhume Speer's rotten corpse and prop it up at a drawing board in a corner of the Oval.

Buddyzbuddy

(2,286 posts)
15. Not only should we demolish that, if he builds it, but also the new addition(s)
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 09:35 PM
6 hrs ago

to the Whitehouse and send him the bill for demo, cleanup and rebuild. For security purposes alone it's justified. Who knows what surveillance that pig had incorporated into the builds. Also, you know Putin would have copies of the blueprints if not direct access to surveillance.

Then we come after every piece of T.... property and commit to close surveillance of him and every family member as a threat to National Security. Immunity my ass.

Aussie105

(7,714 posts)
18. Once he is gone . . .
Sun Feb 1, 2026, 09:43 PM
6 hrs ago

can we reset the calendars to 0 PT (post Trump)?

A common practise in some historic cultures, I'm told.

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