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JohnnyRingo

(20,524 posts)
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 06:30 PM Dec 27

Cal Thomas has finally found an issue with Trump.

Cal Thomas is an uber-conservative editorialist and co-host of "The Five" on Fox News. He doesn't have a democratic bone in his brittle old body. I read his column each week in my print newspaper and usually only get halfway through before I shake my head and move on.

Until today. I had to finish the piece searching for one good word about Trump, but there was barely a one.
It seems he is a man of the theatre and fine tradition, and that cracked his MAGA armor. I imagine the newspaper delivered to the Oval Office has a big redaction.

The Trump-Kennedy Center

By Cal Thomas

Tribune Content Agency

Last Friday evening I attended the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts with my wife and two friends to listen to a wonderful performance of Handel’s “Messiah.”

The Kennedy Center has been among the few places in Washington (sports arenas are another) where one can get through a day or evening without the confrontational and corrosive political language that has infected the city. Not anymore.

President Trump, with the approval of a board he appointed, has added his name to the building. Henceforth, or until a future president and board will remove it (one can only hope), the place will be labeled, if not called by everyone, the Trump Kennedy Center.

I recall the first performance in what has become Washington’s main cultural attraction. It was on Sept. 8, 1971 and the world premiere of Leonard Bernstein’s “Mass,” a work commissioned by Jacqueline Kennedy. The Kennedys did more to bring high-brow culture to Washington than any other president and first lady. President Trump has brought nothing, not even close, that can match their contributions.

During the day on Friday, workers were already drilling the additional name into the outside of the building. The Kennedy Center website has been re-labeled “Trump Kennedy Center.”

There is talk around town that Trump has only begun to add his name to other buildings. One prospect he is reportedly eyeing is the soon-to-be finished Washington Commanders (formerly “Redskins”) football stadium. I got to thinking about other places where Trump might affix his name.

He keeps it going strong here:
https://calthomas.com/2025/12/trump-adds-names/
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Cal Thomas has finally found an issue with Trump. (Original Post) JohnnyRingo Dec 27 OP
Even Cal Thomas is seeing the light! Diamond_Dog Dec 27 #1
and thank gawd for this......he's exactly right tho.....the Kennedy Center is about the arts, culture, and grace. a kennedy Dec 27 #4
Astounding development! Paladin Dec 27 #5
Only because Trump has gored his personal favorite ox. Otherwise I'm sure he is still a good with Donny. flashman13 Dec 27 #16
I am waiting for him to change the name of a certain museum to the Trump Holocaust Museum. marble falls Dec 27 #2
It's about time samplegirl Dec 27 #3
Cal's still living? czarjak Dec 27 #6
Seriously; how old is that fossil? Chasstev365 Dec 27 #7
Stone-Aged? czarjak Dec 27 #27
Surprise here also. He was old 40 years ago yonder Dec 27 #17
He ditched the 'stache sometime before then Polybius Dec 27 #22
He used to be in our local paper's editorial page. czarjak Dec 27 #26
Ours too. Don't remember him past '85-90 thereabouts. yonder Dec 27 #28
The poor man's Pat Buchanan. Kid Berwyn Dec 28 #39
So Cal has a problem with naming stuff, but destroying people is ok? Raven123 Dec 27 #8
In my house we take our blessing at face value. JohnnyRingo Dec 27 #18
Heh, a name I haven't heard in a long time. electric_blue68 Dec 27 #9
I remember Cal Thomas and his sneering public comments during the late 1980s and 1990s Bluejeans Dec 27 #10
"Conservative" has been the polite term for Right Wing for over a century JHB Dec 27 #11
Do you remember when Bush / Cheney ran as "Compassionate Conservatives"? JohnnyRingo Dec 27 #20
Lavatory page would still be "on the team". They'd be hounded out as "woke RINOs" JHB Dec 27 #23
Is that a voice from the grave?? lastlib Dec 27 #12
Not so fast Cirsium Dec 27 #13
Precisely my beef with "NeverTrumpers", though my position gets scolded. JHB Dec 27 #24
hear, hear Cirsium Dec 28 #29
My attitude is drmeow Dec 28 #35
Use them for what? We've now had several election cycles where they didn't move the needle at all JHB Dec 28 #38
So, what do you suggest we do? drmeow Dec 28 #40
To stop amplifying them would be a good start, but do you realize... JHB Dec 28 #42
My question was not about drmeow Dec 28 #43
That wasn't my post. I was responding to that post. JHB Dec 28 #44
Oops - sorry drmeow Dec 29 #45
A hardcore Maga facebook friend of mine, hasn't said anything about Trump in months. During that time he's Fil1957 Dec 27 #14
Think about it.... JohnnyRingo Dec 28 #31
All the utterly despicable things that TSF has done... WestMichRad Dec 27 #15
I'm just glad he expressed his disdain for Trump in the national press. JohnnyRingo Dec 28 #32
Because, like all right wing fascists drmeow Dec 28 #36
Is he still on TV? progressoid Dec 27 #19
"Some Democrats are saying Congress should approve any name change" - NO spooky3 Dec 27 #21
i think it meant democrats said Congress must approve..... JohnnyRingo Dec 27 #25
Yikes. LudwigPastorius Dec 28 #30
They say TV adds 10 pounds, but.... JohnnyRingo Dec 28 #33
You made him, Cal. travelingthrulife Dec 28 #34
"Trump Uranus might work, if that doesn't sound redundant." drmeow Dec 28 #37
Didn't he look a hundred years old forty years ago? senseandsensibility Dec 28 #41

a kennedy

(35,346 posts)
4. and thank gawd for this......he's exactly right tho.....the Kennedy Center is about the arts, culture, and grace.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 06:49 PM
Dec 27

Fawking tRump??? HAS NONE OF THIS, HE’S A BIG FAT FAWKING PIECE OF SHIT, AND HIS GAWD NAME ONLY BELONGS ON THE LOWEST OF THE LOW ITEMS, ya know, like, garbage bags that were full of doggie shit, and puke, or toilets that are backed up, or diapers filled with the unimaginable stuff. No his gawd name does NOT BELONG ON THE KENNEDY CENTER building. 🤬 🤮 🤬 🤮 🤬 How soon before I get arrested???

Paladin

(32,307 posts)
5. Astounding development!
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 07:15 PM
Dec 27

Trump's awful behavior, alienating the likes of Cal Thomas. Extraordinary. This will reverberate, particularly amongst seniors who are familiar with Thomas' rabid-right stances over the years. Encouraging!

flashman13

(2,052 posts)
16. Only because Trump has gored his personal favorite ox. Otherwise I'm sure he is still a good with Donny.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:55 PM
Dec 27

yonder

(10,246 posts)
17. Surprise here also. He was old 40 years ago
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:00 PM
Dec 27

Edit: Wikipedia says he's 83. This photo is from 2012 and looks like someone like him should look like. I seem to remember he was sporting a porn star mustache back then.

Raven123

(7,571 posts)
8. So Cal has a problem with naming stuff, but destroying people is ok?
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:20 PM
Dec 27

His column is printed in my local paper as well. I find it odd that he was griping about the DOJ (while Biden was president) pursuing him for his criminal activities, but naming stuff is the thing that trips his trigger.

JohnnyRingo

(20,524 posts)
18. In my house we take our blessing at face value.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:02 PM
Dec 27

Turning on Trump for his narcissism is not a cause for dispute.
Let us hope the dominos continue to tumble.

Bluejeans

(142 posts)
10. I remember Cal Thomas and his sneering public comments during the late 1980s and 1990s
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:31 PM
Dec 27

Cal Thomas with his sneering public comments during the late 1980s and 1990s contributed a great deal to the "confrontational and corrosive political language" in today's public sphere.

As my dear departed mother would say, "He must be dying; he's clearing his conscience now!"

JHB

(37,959 posts)
11. "Conservative" has been the polite term for Right Wing for over a century
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:32 PM
Dec 27

Not every conservative is Right Wing, but Right Wingers love to call themselves "conservative." It's a soft-focus that hides the how extreme they are.

There's not really any point to the phrase "uber-conservative." Anybody it might apply to can be better characterized as Right Wing, Hard Right, Flaming, Foaming Right Wingnut, and Cal Thomas definitely qualifies for that.

JohnnyRingo

(20,524 posts)
20. Do you remember when Bush / Cheney ran as "Compassionate Conservatives"?
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:06 PM
Dec 27

They somehow back then did not want to seen as part of the Goldwater wing of the party. That kind of talk now will get them demoted to lavatory page.

lastlib

(27,580 posts)
12. Is that a voice from the grave??
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:36 PM
Dec 27

Surely that old fossil is long dead--if only his brain...... JHC, I thought his 15 minutes was up after we kicked W out. He must be 150 years old now. His ideas certainly are.

Cirsium

(3,390 posts)
13. Not so fast
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:39 PM
Dec 27

Cal Thomas and his cohorts enabled this nightmare. They worked for years to get us here. They don't get to just step away.

JHB

(37,959 posts)
24. Precisely my beef with "NeverTrumpers", though my position gets scolded.
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:09 PM
Dec 27

Apparently, they're our "allies" now. They utterly failed at what was supposed to the reason for making nice with them, namely to getting like-minded Republicans to vote for Democrats to beat Trump, and they're crowding actual liberals out of media spaces, but hey, allies, so you can't do anything rude like bring up the fact that they spent their careers creating a voter base of easily-manipulated Ahabs who were ripe for a guy who promised them White Whale steak dinners for life (and the hagfish will pay for it).

drmeow

(5,929 posts)
35. My attitude is
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:54 AM
Dec 28

we use them as much as we need/can to help get rid of the f**kers they enabled but we should then crucify them along side those f**kers unless they show TRUE sustained remorse and better ideology (i.e., they have truly changed ... for the better).

JHB

(37,959 posts)
38. Use them for what? We've now had several election cycles where they didn't move the needle at all
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:48 AM
Dec 28

Trump got more votes in 2020 than he did in 2016, and got still more in 2024. So how many votes did they shift? Them and all 14 of their friends? They didn't do any better in downticket races, either.

Show remorse and change? Only Stuart Stevens really broke with his past, the rest of them just want to get back to the status quo of 2005. They pretend nothing was wrong before 2015. They still "both sides" all the time.

And just who is going to crucify them and how? And when? Because we are at (past) that point, but anyone who tries gets shushed up and scolded. Meanwhile, NeverTrumpers get loads of free media time and resources that ought to be going to people who've actually been right about the Right for oh, several decades now. Yet at the same time, people on our side lament that "we need our own Joe Rogan" and that liberal media posts are clickbaity to pay the bills because they don't get big donations to establish themselves like the Lincoln Project and The Bulwark did.

And since they have an outsized media reach and influence, by what means will they be crucified? It won't be on MSNOW, where they practically have a colony of paid contributors.

With a truncated handful of exceptions, their goal now is the same as it was in 2016: to position themselves for a post-Trump Republican Party.

drmeow

(5,929 posts)
40. So, what do you suggest we do?
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:59 PM
Dec 28

It is not like we control the media that you say they are crowding liberal voices out of.

Are you saying you don't want anyone on DU to post anything by or about them and if anyone on DU does post or say anything about them we should all respond every time with a lecture on how they created this problem and that they are part of the problem?

What exactly do you want?

JHB

(37,959 posts)
42. To stop amplifying them would be a good start, but do you realize...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:54 PM
Dec 28

...you're actually making my case?

This subthread began with me complaining that any time we tried reminding people NeverTrumpers were part of the crew that built the road that Trump is drag racing on we got told to hush up because they were our allies now. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," even when our new friends will shiv us in the kidneys the moment they think its to their advantage.

This was rationalized by pretty much your position: "We'll use them, and then get rid of them."

In responding to your post to that effect, I noted that it's time to pull that trigger, so how exactly do we get rid of them?

And now you turn that question back on me, someone who was not part of the "use'em and lose'em" crowd.

drmeow

(5,929 posts)
43. My question was not about
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:15 PM
Dec 28

what to do about pulling the trigger.

If you want people on DU to "stop amplifying them" (which I assume means not posting about them - also, that's not ever going to happen with a group this large and diverse) then you need to say that in your post rather than just "Not so fast. Cal Thomas and his cohorts enabled this nightmare. They worked for years to get us here. They don't get to just step away." My "so what do you suggest we do" was aimed at that post.

drmeow

(5,929 posts)
45. Oops - sorry
Mon Dec 29, 2025, 05:40 PM
Dec 29

I thought I'd checked that but I guess I only went back to your first post instead of the first post I responded to. I apologize.

Fil1957

(548 posts)
14. A hardcore Maga facebook friend of mine, hasn't said anything about Trump in months. During that time he's
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:45 PM
Dec 27

heavily trashed Democrats, lefties, etc. using the same old tired Fox talking points. But he hasn't said a word about Trump -- good or bad during that time. I'm guessing Trump is beginning to lose his support.

JohnnyRingo

(20,524 posts)
31. Think about it....
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 08:59 AM
Dec 28

Trump has done so many radically offensive things this year, everybody has had equal opportunity to despise him for one thing or another.
For Cal Thomas it was the Kennedy Center. And yes, he'll be back on "The Five" with a bag full of republican taking points.

WestMichRad

(2,939 posts)
15. All the utterly despicable things that TSF has done...
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 08:48 PM
Dec 27

… (too disgusting to reiterate here)… but it was putting his name on a cultural treasure that is the breaking point for Cal Thomas?
Sheesh… words fail me. (Shakes head in amazement.)
Crawl back under your rock, you shriveled fossil.

JohnnyRingo

(20,524 posts)
32. I'm just glad he expressed his disdain for Trump in the national press.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 09:03 AM
Dec 28

You and I see nothing we like in him, but he's a Geezer Influencer, and this helps

drmeow

(5,929 posts)
36. Because, like all right wing fascists
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:55 AM
Dec 28

it only matters if it matters to or directly affects him!

spooky3

(38,293 posts)
21. "Some Democrats are saying Congress should approve any name change" - NO
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 09:18 PM
Dec 27

The *LAW* says any name change MUST be approved by Congress.

JohnnyRingo

(20,524 posts)
25. i think it meant democrats said Congress must approve.....
Sat Dec 27, 2025, 11:27 PM
Dec 27

....any name change made by the current president but DT continues regardless..

"Some Democrats are saying Congress should approve any name change. They are right, but Trump presses on ..."

No one has heard any republicans complaining.

travelingthrulife

(4,463 posts)
34. You made him, Cal.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 10:36 AM
Dec 28

If this is the only thing that bothers you about this rapist 34 count felon, then you have some big brain problems.

senseandsensibility

(24,259 posts)
41. Didn't he look a hundred years old forty years ago?
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:18 PM
Dec 28

i vaguely remember him as being impossibly old in the 90's, ridiculously out of touch with insanely unrealistic dyed hair. Is that the guy?

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