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LetMyPeopleVote

(175,035 posts)
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 04:30 PM Dec 25

Here are some previews of trump's new "battleship"

The internet has been hard at work coming up with designs for trump's new battleships




















These two posts amused me

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Here are some previews of trump's new "battleship" (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Dec 25 OP
I didn't see the USS Ped a File. nt doc03 Dec 25 #1
Here's the Ped-O-File class one: Justice matters. Dec 25 #11
LOL LetMyPeopleVote Dec 25 #13
Thanks for this! ShazzieB Dec 28 #24
Thank you, added to my fabulous and growing collection ;-) diane in sf Dec 25 #2
Wow. Just WOW!!! PCIntern Dec 25 #3
They're way too nice for him.. chouchou Dec 25 #4
I think this thread paints a pretty good picture of tRump's legacy. nt BootinUp Dec 25 #5
I am beginning to think bucolic_frolic Dec 25 #6
Trump's Fleet IcyPeas Dec 25 #7
You could do tens of thousands more AI slop pictures like that, none of which are 1/10 as effective as highplainsdem Dec 25 #8
I think there was definitely some human imagination behind some of these. ShazzieB Dec 28 #25
I don't understand people who don't consider it too unethical to use because of the intellectual property highplainsdem Dec 28 #26
Would you be willing to consider posting links to articles about the issues you mention? ShazzieB Dec 28 #28
I've posted hundreds of OPs, mostly with articles, about AI here over the last 3 years, ever since highplainsdem Dec 28 #30
And btw, all people have imaginations. Imagination alone isn't creativity. If people don't have the highplainsdem Dec 28 #29
USS A**hole. surfered Dec 25 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Mblaze Dec 25 #10
Here are some additional prototypes or concepts LetMyPeopleVote Dec 25 #12
Where's The Golden Fleecer"? BattleRow Dec 25 #19
Germany... Godot51 Dec 25 #14
Whatever form it takes, it's still a target. cloudbase Dec 25 #15
I saw a prototype the other day. cab67 Dec 25 #16
Fleet Enema oasis Dec 25 #17
There is no precedent for any class of ships being named after a living president FakeNoose Dec 25 #18
No American president has ever named ships or institutions after himself--until now. LetMyPeopleVote Dec 26 #20
New battleships named after Trump are 'bomb magnets' -- and will never sail: expert LetMyPeopleVote Dec 26 #21
Top secret video of Trump's new fleet. Just released on Signal app. LetMyPeopleVote Dec 28 #22
I will admit that the clown ship in the video would give me pause in an attack... Hugin Dec 28 #23
The one with Vance on the bow. Permanut Dec 28 #27
These are examples of good use of AI -- making fun of Trump. Intractable Dec 28 #31
Satire, I don't think that word means what you think it means. I'll help. Ranting Randy Dec 28 #32
Is there something wrong with you? Intractable Dec 28 #33
I'm surprised you only found literary definitions. ShazzieB Dec 28 #34
Thanks for the clarification Ranting Randy Dec 29 #36
USS Pedophile LetMyPeopleVote Dec 29 #35
LOL LetMyPeopleVote Dec 30 #37

Justice matters.

(9,413 posts)
11. Here's the Ped-O-File class one:
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 06:02 PM
Dec 25

In reply to one of the above





That narcissist is both the laughing stock of the world and a historic abomination at the same time.

ShazzieB

(22,225 posts)
24. Thanks for this!
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:01 PM
Dec 28

I was scratching my head but didn't want to click on X if I could possibly help it. I know there's still stuff there that's worth reading/seeing, but the place reminds me too much of Eloon and what he did to our government earlier this year.

highplainsdem

(60,078 posts)
8. You could do tens of thousands more AI slop pictures like that, none of which are 1/10 as effective as
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 05:40 PM
Dec 25

Luckovich cartoons, because there's no talent and no effort behind AI slop.

MAGAts can churn out similar slop from their side. Trump loves AI slop, as 404 Media reminded people today, reposting an article from May.

https://www.404media.co/the-ai-slop-presidency/

Trump has found an aesthetic to define his second term: grotesque AI slop.

Over the weekend, the Trump administration posted at least seven different pieces of AI generated or AI altered media, ranging from Trump imagining himself as a pope and a Star Wars Jedi (or Sith?) to Obama-esque “Hope” posters featuring people the administration has deported.

This has become the Slop Presidency, and AI-generated images are the perfect artistic medium for the Trump presidency. They're impulsively created, grotesque, and low-effort. Trumpworld’s fascination with slop is the logical next step for a President that, in his first term, regularly retweeted random memes created by his army of supporters on Discord or The Donald, a subreddit that ultimately became a Reddit-clone website after it was banned. AI allows his team to create media that would never exist otherwise, a particularly useful tool for a President and administration that has a hostile relationship with reality.

Trump’s original fascination with AI slop began last summer, after he said legal Haitian immigrants in Springfield, Ohio were “eating the cats…they’re eating the pets” in his debate with Kamala Harris. The internet’s AI slop factories began spinning up images of Trump as cat-and-dog savior. Since then, Trump and the administration have occasionally shared or reposted AI slop. In his first week in office, Trump shared an AI-generated “GM” car image that was promoting $TRUMP coin. “What a beautiful car. Congrats to GM!,” he posted.

-snip-



We're not going to outslop the MAGAts. Our advantage is reality. Producing AI slop is a waste of time and human energy, as well as a waste of water and electricity. And it's an insult to the human artists whose work was stolen to train the AI. It sends the message that Democrats don't care about that theft. That's a bad message.

ShazzieB

(22,225 posts)
25. I think there was definitely some human imagination behind some of these.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:41 PM
Dec 28

Sometimes people can imagine things they don't have the skill to execute themselves (like a solid gold battleship, for instance). Looks to me like that's what most of these are: a visualization of an idea that started in a human brain.

I agree we should all have serious concerns about AI and how it's used, especially in the areas of environmental issues and taking over tasks that humans could do better. But it's here, and it's not going away, whether we like it or not. Calling everything it's used to create "slop" isn't going to change that, and neither is criticizing people for enjoying images like these.

Just my opinion, and I know you don't agree. I'm just expressing an alternate view, not trying to start a fight.

highplainsdem

(60,078 posts)
26. I don't understand people who don't consider it too unethical to use because of the intellectual property
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:48 PM
Dec 28

theft to train it, the harm done to all those artists whose work was stolen to make tools to enable no-talent wannabes to pretend they're artists.

It's no more moral than slavery. Or the grotesque plans to build a high-tech city on the ruins of Gaza.

ShazzieB

(22,225 posts)
28. Would you be willing to consider posting links to articles about the issues you mention?
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:02 PM
Dec 28

Just a thought. I think that might be more likely to change some minds than just criticizing.

I would be the first to admit that my knowledge of AI is limited, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I know there's a lot of info out there, but I don't have time to sift through everything, decide which sources are relevant and accurate, etc. You seem to know a lot about it. Perhaps you could point people like me in the right direction faster than we could get there ourselves?

highplainsdem

(60,078 posts)
30. I've posted hundreds of OPs, mostly with articles, about AI here over the last 3 years, ever since
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:25 PM
Dec 28

ChatGPT was released and it was immediately clear that it was harmful.

If you use Advanced Search, which you can use since you're a Star member, to search for thread titles by highplainsdem about AI or ChatGPT, that will turn up a lot of them. So will searches for OpenAI, Google, Microsoft, Facebook and Meta. But with the first two keywords, you're likely to get more than 250 search results, and the limit is 250 for each search, so you'll need to change search dates to go back farther. Most of the threads are in GD and LBN. Some of the threads might have titles referring to artificial intelligence instead of AI, and since DU advanced search allows only one keyword, you'll have to choose one of those two words. Searches for chat or chatbots should turn up some other threads I posted.

highplainsdem

(60,078 posts)
29. And btw, all people have imaginations. Imagination alone isn't creativity. If people don't have the
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:11 PM
Dec 28

skill to execute something they imagine themselves, they should acquire those skills, rather than being frauds using tools trained illegally on other people's work.

I don't know if you've ever used image generators, but the odds are none of the AI slop images posted here were really all that close to what the fraudster AI user had imagined. They typed in a few words and the image generator gave them a selection of options, which could have looked quite different from one another, and the AI user either selected one of then, like somebody shopping online, or they had the mindless AI tool churn out more images.

And all it took was a waste of electricity and enough callousness not to mind that the AI companies behind the theft were happy to destroy the careers of lots of artists, distracting people with worthless AI slop while those companies damage the environment, destabilize the economy, and support Trump because they don't care about democracy and liberal values.

EDITING to add that not all people using generative AI are callous about the IP theft and harm done to real human creatives. Some are still ignorant of the theft and its impact, despite all the news stories about it.

But I've seen a disgusting number of AI users online who are absolutely gleeful about real artists having their work stolen and being harmed by generative AI. I've seen AI users post that they can't wait till successful creatives go broke and AI users are making all the money instead.

And I've talked to entirely too many creatives who are in despair, and sometime thinking about suicide, for me to feel that use of genAI trained on stolen IP is harmless.

Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

Godot51

(722 posts)
14. Germany...
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 06:28 PM
Dec 25

... under Hitler renamed the heavy cruiser Deutschland to Lutzow to avoid lowering morale and causing national shame if she were sunk.

Of course naming any ship USS drumpf would be a national shame. Personally, I find the Reagan, the Ford, and the Bush to all be extremely shameful names for carriers.

Reagan? An bad actor, non-warrior, non-hero.

Ford? A nothing naval officer, a partial president.

Bush? An adolescent seeking glory who caused the deaths of his crew while bailing out?

FakeNoose

(40,219 posts)
18. There is no precedent for any class of ships being named after a living president
Thu Dec 25, 2025, 06:54 PM
Dec 25

... and it's not going to start now. It's not going to start with THIS TOTAL LOSER of a president.

LetMyPeopleVote

(175,035 posts)
21. New battleships named after Trump are 'bomb magnets' -- and will never sail: expert
Fri Dec 26, 2025, 06:48 PM
Dec 26

This battleship makes no sense and will never be built

New battleships named after Trump are 'bomb magnets' — and will never sail: expert

www.rawstory.com/alternet-pos...

(@bobshaw-28.bsky.social) 2025-12-26T21:50:29.523Z

https://www.rawstory.com/alternet-posts/trump-battleship/

Donald Trump's much-hyped new battleship fleet, named after himself, "will never sail," a group of experts told CNBC in a new report, owing to the outdated design that will make them a "bomb magnet" in a real conflict.

Earlier this week, the president unveiled a new "Trump-class" of US Navy battleships, which he touted as "some of the most lethal surface warfare ships" and "the fastest, the biggest, and by far, 100 times more powerful than any battleship ever built." Despite his enthusiasm from Trump about maintaining "American military supremacy," CNBC on Friday noted the "glaring problem" putting them at odds with reality: "battleships have been obsolete for decades."

"The last was built more than 80 years ago, and the U.S. Navy retired the last Iowa-class ships nearly 30 years ago," CNBC explained. "Once symbols of naval might with their massive guns, battleships have long since been eclipsed by aircraft carriers and modern destroyers armed with long-range missiles."

The outlet conceded that Trump's labeling of these new ships with the outdated model name could be a "misnomer," and the actual ships might be more in line with modern sensibilities. Speaking to several experts about the ships, however, CNBC found that the "Trump-class" fleet is still out of step with naval realities, with Mark Cancian, a senior adviser at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, arguing that they "would take too long to design, cost far too much and run counter to the Navy’s current strategy of distributed firepower."

"A future administration will cancel the program before the first ship hits the water," Cancian said, also adding that "there is little need for said discussion because this ship will never sail."

Hugin

(37,448 posts)
23. I will admit that the clown ship in the video would give me pause in an attack...
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 12:47 PM
Dec 28

But, only long enough to determine the humane way to put it out of its misery.

Permanut

(8,005 posts)
27. The one with Vance on the bow.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 01:53 PM
Dec 28

reminds me of Dwight Shrute steering the boat on the Booze Cruise episode of The Office.

Intractable

(1,658 posts)
31. These are examples of good use of AI -- making fun of Trump.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 02:42 PM
Dec 28

I guess people have nothing better to do than make AI prompts.

There's an ugliness here that goes beyond satire.

Ranting Randy

(380 posts)
32. Satire, I don't think that word means what you think it means. I'll help.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 03:32 PM
Dec 28

satire /săt′īr″/
noun

1. A literary work in which human foolishness or vice is attacked through irony, derision, or wit.

2.The branch of literature constituting such works.

3. Irony, sarcasm, or caustic wit used to attack or expose human foolishness or vice.

ShazzieB

(22,225 posts)
34. I'm surprised you only found literary definitions.
Sun Dec 28, 2025, 11:02 PM
Dec 28

The concept of satire extends far beyond the written word, for example:

Satire (noun)
wit, irony, or sarcasm used to expose and discredit vice or folly (as of a person, government, or society)
broadly : humor that criticizes weakness or wrongdoing
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/satire

Wit, irony, and sarcasm can be expressed in a myriad of forms, from the written word to music to films to virtually all forms of the performing and visual arts.

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