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no_hypocrisy

(53,952 posts)
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 05:44 AM 7 hrs ago

My theory why The Queen didn't rein in Andrew Mountbatten Windsor:

It's reminiscent of dilemma faced by Teddy Roosevelt when he was in the White House. He had a wayward child, Alice, who was scandalous at the time. He was confronted with trying to limit her antics.

And TR famously said, "I can either run the country or I can control Alice. I can't possibly do both."

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My theory why The Queen didn't rein in Andrew Mountbatten Windsor: (Original Post) no_hypocrisy 7 hrs ago OP
He was her favorite... hlthe2b 7 hrs ago #1
Coupled with pragmatism. no_hypocrisy 7 hrs ago #2
Royal family has a history of looking the other way when their men act badly. Irish_Dem 7 hrs ago #3
Given the royal family's first allegiance is to "The Firm," I doubt that she had a fling. 3Hotdogs 5 hrs ago #5
Ha ha. Well known that Phillip had a separate family. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #9
As do billionairs get the red out 4 hrs ago #12
The ultra wealthy have Bettie 3 hrs ago #13
All aristocrats malaise 2 hrs ago #17
Bad analogy: I don't recall Alice Roosevelt ever raping children. Chasstev365 6 hrs ago #4
Seriously?? Alice's "scandalous" bevaviour at 19 was not being the demure niyad 5 hrs ago #6
Yep. OldBaldy1701E 5 hrs ago #7
I've often thought it was because of her sister Margaret rpannier 5 hrs ago #8
The Queen doesn't edhopper 4 hrs ago #10
The Queen didn't rein in Andrew because she didn't have to dlk 4 hrs ago #11
No one in the adult version of reality is a "Queen" or a "Prince" GreatGazoo 3 hrs ago #14
I believe with all due respect, PCIntern 3 hrs ago #15
Here are King Charles' conceivable powers GreatGazoo 2 hrs ago #16

Irish_Dem

(78,536 posts)
3. Royal family has a history of looking the other way when their men act badly.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 05:55 AM
7 hrs ago

And Andrew was the Queen's favorite.
It was rumored he was not Phillip's child.

3Hotdogs

(14,874 posts)
5. Given the royal family's first allegiance is to "The Firm," I doubt that she had a fling.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:19 AM
5 hrs ago

Irish_Dem

(78,536 posts)
9. Ha ha. Well known that Phillip had a separate family.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:51 AM
5 hrs ago

And his many affairs are documented fact.

Andrew was a child rapist and QE protected him.
Harry is a serious drug addict who beats up prostitutes and commits other crimes.

I could go on and on.

British aristocrats have a different morality than the rest of us.

get the red out

(13,905 posts)
12. As do billionairs
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 08:22 AM
4 hrs ago

People who have everything at their fingertips want more, immoral (and often criminally immoral) activities are all that's left. Power, money (or Royalty) enables it.

Bettie

(19,173 posts)
13. The ultra wealthy have
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:28 AM
3 hrs ago

different morality than the rest of us....that covers most of them.

Once you hit a certain level of wealth, rules and laws cease applying to you, unless you commit the cardinal sin of fucking over other rich people.

niyad

(128,959 posts)
6. Seriously?? Alice's "scandalous" bevaviour at 19 was not being the demure
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:20 AM
5 hrs ago

little, empty-headed, silent, doll that was expected of females at the time. She did not commit crimes, she did not rape children, she did not pay off victims of crimes, since there were no crimes.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,752 posts)
7. Yep.
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:33 AM
5 hrs ago

She was 'strong-willed', which was the usual description of a female that actually had a brain and was not afraid to use it.

rpannier

(24,824 posts)
8. I've often thought it was because of her sister Margaret
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 07:49 AM
5 hrs ago

Margaret was a bright and talented woman, who was cursed as being the second child. The Queen recognized Margaret's frustrations and I've read it bothered her. I think some of the feeling/understanding was what made her so supportive of Andrew, and possibly blinded her to his failures

dlk

(13,064 posts)
11. The Queen didn't rein in Andrew because she didn't have to
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 08:19 AM
4 hrs ago

When people are considered to be “royal” and above everyone else, accountability for crimes gets swept under the rug. Anyone who has studied history knows there has always been a very long list of royal crimes throughout the world.

GreatGazoo

(4,348 posts)
14. No one in the adult version of reality is a "Queen" or a "Prince"
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:34 AM
3 hrs ago

The continued use of such terms is part of what enables bad behavior without accountability. Stripping their archaic titles only AFTER their scandals can no longer be denied seems too late and convenient.

PCIntern

(27,880 posts)
15. I believe with all due respect,
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 09:37 AM
3 hrs ago

that you are living in an alternate Universe. We, at least to this exact moment, do not have a King or Queen, but Britain’s Monarchy is inconceivably powerful if they have to be. Make no mistake.

GreatGazoo

(4,348 posts)
16. Here are King Charles' conceivable powers
Thu Dec 4, 2025, 10:18 AM
2 hrs ago

1. Can travel without a passport
2. Can drive with no license and at speeds above posted limits
3. Tax exempt
4. Can avoid jury duty
5. Exempt from laws regarding race, ethnic and gender equality
6. Can move to any adjacent square that is not threatened by opponent's pieces.
7. Can move inside of either Rook on rank 1 of the board if neither has previously moved.

https://time.com/6275480/king-charles-iii-privileges-laws-exempt/

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