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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(131,594 posts) Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:08 PM 15 hrs ago

US defence secretary says he did not see survivors before follow-up strike on drug boat

US Defence Secretary Pete Hegseth has said he "did not personally see survivors" before a deadly follow-up strike on an alleged drug boat in the Caribbean.

An initial strike reportedly left two survivors clinging to the burning vessel, before a second strike was allegedly ordered that left them dead.

The 2 September strike has prompted concerns that US forces may have violated laws governing armed conflict.

During a cabinet meeting at the White House, Hegseth attributed the strike to the "fog of war" in a chaotic situation. The White House has said that a top US Navy admiral, Frank Bradley, authorised the second strike.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/us-defence-secretary-says-did-191628188.html

Sure it wasn't the whiskey that brought on the fog Pete?

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US defence secretary says he did not see survivors before follow-up strike on drug boat (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 15 hrs ago OP

THEY ALL LIE, ALL THE TIME. spanone 15 hrs ago #1

Wait for it.... redstatebluegirl 15 hrs ago #2

Good one. Maybe not this time but that is coming. Walleye 15 hrs ago #4

Alcoholics can be accomplished liars. And it's not a damn war nobody's shooting back. Walleye 15 hrs ago #3

This Navy vet calls bilgewash. Permanut 15 hrs ago #5

10 year old boy to playmates: markodochartaigh 15 hrs ago #6

WP report : "Kill them all" Klarkashton 14 hrs ago #7

Missing a Little Logic - So, They Ordered Strike on Already Sinking Boat?? waterwatcher123 14 hrs ago #8

The fog of bullshit prevented him from seeing them Jersey Devil 14 hrs ago #9

Hogsbreath: "Bradley ordered it, not me!" Zorro 14 hrs ago #10

That word "personally" is doing some heavy lifting there genxlib 14 hrs ago #11

spanone

(140,806 posts)

1. THEY ALL LIE, ALL THE TIME.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:09 PM

15 hrs ago

redstatebluegirl

(12,751 posts)

2. Wait for it....

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:11 PM

15 hrs ago

He will claim he was drunk at the time and check into rehab.

Walleye

(43,437 posts)

4. Good one. Maybe not this time but that is coming.

Reply to redstatebluegirl (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:12 PM

15 hrs ago

Walleye

(43,437 posts)

3. Alcoholics can be accomplished liars. And it's not a damn war nobody's shooting back.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:11 PM

15 hrs ago

Permanut

(7,828 posts)

5. This Navy vet calls bilgewash.

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:13 PM

15 hrs ago

markodochartaigh

(4,739 posts)

6. 10 year old boy to playmates:

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:14 PM

15 hrs ago

"Kill 'em all! Hahaha, I killed 'em all!!!"

10 year old boy to parents:

"I didn't do anything", "I didn't see anything", "It wasn't me!", "I'm not responsible, it was somebody else", "There's nothing I could have done anyway!" "Who is blaming me? Maybe you should ask them!"

Klarkashton

(4,592 posts)

7. WP report : "Kill them all"

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:21 PM

14 hrs ago

How does that square?

waterwatcher123

(438 posts)

8. Missing a Little Logic - So, They Ordered Strike on Already Sinking Boat??

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:22 PM

14 hrs ago

Jersey Devil

(10,702 posts)

9. The fog of bullshit prevented him from seeing them

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:31 PM

14 hrs ago

Yeah, sure, the "fog of war". Like the Navy would ordinarily bomb a burning wreck of a small craft a second time to make it sink faster. If that's the best Hegseth can do he is going to get roasted when he appears before Congress.

Zorro

(18,263 posts)

10. Hogsbreath: "Bradley ordered it, not me!"

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:32 PM

14 hrs ago

I had not thought of that way to endear the military to you.

genxlib

(6,050 posts)

11. That word "personally" is doing some heavy lifting there

Reply to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:55 PM

14 hrs ago

Sounds like some weasel words to me. He didn't say that someone didn't see them or that they didn't know they were there. He said that he "personally" didn't see them.

I know carefully chosen words when I see them.

This would be a good time for a leaked signal chat ...

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