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moniss

(8,514 posts) Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:59 PM 3 hrs ago

The reason for the pardon of the Honduran

crook is plain on its' face but we can be sure nobody in the media will say it or pursue it. Money. Crumb The 1st will get a bunch of money from the situation and that money will be drug money. It will come to him through his various investment scams like his crypto, real estate transactions etc. Probably working through his idiot sons as well.

The craziest thing is Melanie hanging in there like she's going to get a big chunk of this when he croaks. I've got news for her. People like Crumb The 1st fight you and try to screw you over from the grave. I expect that he has probably shown her a will where she does get a chunk but of course he has a subsequent will that he didn't tell her about that either excludes her entirely or just gives her a pittance. There is probably some overall trust that everything goes to and the lawyers will fight her lawyers for decades and make Anna Nicole Smith look like a quick resolution.

I've seen it before where ultra-controlling, vindictive people settle scores from the grave by leaving descendants tied to each other in such a way that everything is constant conflict. Lawyers can tell you horror stories.

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The reason for the pardon of the Honduran (Original Post) moniss 3 hrs ago OP

Ttump has blood on his hands BSDemon 3 hrs ago #1

Malaria will be fine. In most states, including FL, you can't completely disinherit your spouse Ocelot II 3 hrs ago #2

I wouldn't be surprised if he moniss 3 hrs ago #3

MaddowBlog-Trump to add notorious Honduran drug trafficker to his list of scandalous pardon LetMyPeopleVote 2 hrs ago #4

I just did some math belpejic 2 hrs ago #5

Sorry to pick nits, but... dpibel 2 hrs ago #6

You're 100% correct about my conversion mistake belpejic 1 hr ago #7

BSDemon

(67 posts)

1. Ttump has blood on his hands

Reply to moniss (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:03 PM

3 hrs ago

Because if Asfura wins and Hernandez returns, the cartel will be rebuilt, and hundreds of hondurans will die. But Ttump, doesn't care.

Ocelot II

(128,531 posts)

2. Malaria will be fine. In most states, including FL, you can't completely disinherit your spouse

Reply to moniss (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:09 PM

3 hrs ago

unless they have waived their elective share (30% of the estate) in a prenuptial agreement. I think the fireworks will happen when his horrible spawn start fighting over the various business entities.

moniss

(8,514 posts)

3. I wouldn't be surprised if he

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:18 PM

3 hrs ago

has some tortured tangle of what state is his "legal residence". Nevertheless because of the various ways for the rich to entangle LLC's, borrowing, etc. what is considered to be the actual marital estate might be way smaller than the assets he controls by way of various manipulations. I agree that the crap-fest among the spawn will be a spectacle like none other.

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,407 posts)

4. MaddowBlog-Trump to add notorious Honduran drug trafficker to his list of scandalous pardon

Reply to moniss (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:24 PM

2 hrs ago

If the president believes the U.S. is at war with drug traffickers, why does he want to pardon Juan Orlando Hernández?

Trump to add notorious Honduran drug trafficker to his list of scandalous pardons share.google/3055wBRsfyvV...
— (@vinnyfaye.bsky.social) 2025-12-01T17:49:44.528Z

https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/trump-to-add-notorious-honduran-drug-trafficker-to-his-list-of-scandalous-pardons

For those unfamiliar with Hernández, this might not have seemed especially notable, but consider this striking summary published by The New York Times:

He once boasted that he would ‘stuff the drugs up the gringos’ noses.’ He accepted a $1 million bribe from El Chapo to allow cocaine shipments to pass through Honduras. A man was killed in prison to protect him. At the federal trial of Juan Orlando Hernández in New York, testimony and evidence showed how the former president maintained Honduras as a bastion of the global drug trade. He orchestrated a vast trafficking conspiracy that prosecutors said raked in millions for cartels while keeping Honduras one of Central America’s poorest, most violent and most corrupt countries.

Hernández was convicted last year in a sweeping drug-trafficking case and sentenced to 45 years in prison. Trump, however, is undoing all of that — to the great surprise of both Hondurans and U.S. officials who’d invested enormous resources in building a successful case against the former leader.

If the Republican follows through on his announcement, the result will reinforce a ridiculous dynamic, even by 2025 standards: While Trump and his administration claim that the U.S. is engaged in a literal armed conflict against foreign drug traffickers, the American president has vowed to pardon a notorious foreign drug trafficker.

Reporter: You have made so clear how you want to keep drugs out of the USâ€”

Trump: Right

Reporter: Can you explain why you would pardon a notorious drug trafficker?

Trump: If somebody sells drugs in that country, that doesnâ€™t mean you arrest the president
— Acyn (@acyn.bsky.social) 2025-11-30T23:16:55.102Z

...I’m mindful that the American president’s pardon pen has been getting a workout in recent weeks. We’ve seen Trump extend clemency to, among others, the spouse of a congressional loyalist; those who helped him try to overturn the 2020 election results; some Jan. 6 rioters who apparently needed a re-pardon; nursing home magnate Joseph Schwartz, who paid lobbyists almost $1 million in the hopes of receiving presidential clemency; and the man who helped finance the president’s stablecoin and put money in the Trump family’s pockets.

But just when it seemed the list couldn’t get more outlandish, the Republican incumbent made matters even worse the day after Thanksgiving.

belpejic

(769 posts)

5. I just did some math

Reply to moniss (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 03:43 PM

2 hrs ago

I have read that this guy Hernandez was directly responsible for the importation of 500 tons of cocaine into the US.

500 tons * 2,000 lbs/ton = 1,000,000 pounds of cocaine

1,000,000 pounds of cocaine * 2.20462 kilos per pound = 2,204,620 kilos of cocaine.

Yes, that's correct, over 2 million kilos of cocaine.

I then quickly googled the retail price of cocaine, and saw the number $28,000 per kilo. So,

2,204,620 kilos of cocaine * $28,000/kilo = $61,729,360,000.

That's right, folks, the street value of the cocaine this guy sent into the US currently exceeds 60 beel-yon dollars.

This guy just got pardoned by the president of the United States.

We are murdering people on the high seas without ever making the effort to confirm whether they are smuggling drugs into the United States. If they were guilty, they would be sentenced to prison time, I guess of up to 45 years or more depending on the circumstances, but certainly not to death.

Do you see an asymmetry here?

dpibel

(3,737 posts)

6. Sorry to pick nits, but...

Reply to belpejic (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:01 PM

2 hrs ago

You've got your conversion factor flipped. One kilo is 2.2 pounds.

Point is the same, just not quite as dramatic numbers.

belpejic

(769 posts)

7. You're 100% correct about my conversion mistake

Reply to dpibel (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:22 PM

1 hr ago

My bad. Thank you very much for the quick correction!

So if I do the replacement (500*2000*0.453592*28000) we're only talking about 453,592 kilos of cocaine that Hernandez was responsible for sending into the US, and the current street value of that is only $12,700,576,000, or 12.7 beel-yon dollars.

Omar Little would think that he is a chump.

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