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kentuck

(115,007 posts) Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:46 PM 15 hrs ago

* TRUMP PARDONS CRIMINAL WHO SHIPPED 500 TONS OF COCAINE INTO AMERICA *

Is that story big enough to warrant ALL CAPS?

I cannot believe we can skip over that news as if it is just another story of the day?

500 tons of cocaine? That is unimaginable.

At the same time, he is blowing up drug boats in the Caribbean? Why is he pardoning drug lords if he is serious about fighting drugs coming into our country?

FOR ME, THIS IS A BIG STORY!

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*** TRUMP PARDONS CRIMINAL WHO SHIPPED 500 TONS OF COCAINE INTO AMERICA *** (Original Post) kentuck 15 hrs ago OP

For those wondering, here's the relevant DU post sakabatou 15 hrs ago #1

Ever heard of Prospera ? Let Paul Krugman explain.... FalloutShelter 15 hrs ago #2

Very interesting... kentuck 15 hrs ago #5

Thanks for that - I had thought that the ultra-libertarian projects for Latin America had all crashed and burned muriel_volestrangler 15 hrs ago #8

OMG. SO DAMN MUCH THE HOI POLLOI KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.. . ColoringFool 15 hrs ago #9

I had no idea either. FalloutShelter 14 hrs ago #11

The dismissal of those 4 judges BSDemon 14 hrs ago #10

...and that was just Don Jr's supply. flvegan 15 hrs ago #3

While blowing up boats malaise 15 hrs ago #4

I know the media has been reporting on this senseandsensibility 15 hrs ago #6

This is what disappoints me with the Democratic Party... kentuck 12 hrs ago #16

I see that Juan Orlando's brother Tony was federally convicted during Trump's first term for being in the same cartel muriel_volestrangler 15 hrs ago #7

Yep. It's as big as him pardoning all the pedos and human traffickers.... Sogo 13 hrs ago #12

500 tons of Peruvian marching powder... GiqueCee 13 hrs ago #13

I wonder how much Trump got for that pardon. patphil 12 hrs ago #14

Good question! kentuck 12 hrs ago #15

Yes it does. cksmithy 11 hrs ago #17

They're going to need someone to... lame54 10 hrs ago #18

sakabatou

(45,595 posts)

1. For those wondering, here's the relevant DU post

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:48 PM

15 hrs ago

https://democraticunderground.com/10143575741

FalloutShelter

(14,067 posts)

2. Ever heard of Prospera ? Let Paul Krugman explain....

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:53 PM

15 hrs ago

[W]hy pardon Hernández? What’s the connection to the crypto/tech broligarchy? It’s called Próspera.

Próspera is a for-profit city being built off Honduras’s coast. Its charter largely exempts the island from Honduran law. Instead, the city is run by a governing structure that for the most part gives control to a corporation, Honduras Próspera Inc., which is in turn funded by a familiar list of Silicon Valley billionaires including Thiel, Sam Altman and Marc Andreesen.

So while the city is being marketed as a libertarian paradise, it’s best seen as an autonomous oligarchy, government of, by and for billionaires. And you won’t be surprised to learn that within Próspera, Bitcoin is legal tender.

The 2013 Honduran law that made the creation of Próspera possible was initially ruled unconstitutional by the Honduran Supreme Court. But that ruling was reversed after Juan Orlando Hernández’s predecessor, Porfirio Lobo Sosa, managed to dismiss 4 of the court’s justices. Like Hernández, Sosa was a right-winger, who became president after a populist president, Manuel Zelaya, was overthrown by a military coup. Under both Hernández and Sosa, chaos reigned – corruption, criminal gangs, and drugs overran the country. The current president, Zelaya’s wife, has tried to claw back some sovereignty over Próspera, which has struck back with a mammoth lawsuit that could bankrupt the country.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2025/12/1/2356388/-Krugman-s-explanation-for-Trump-s-pardon-of-the-former-Honduran-president-needs-primetime-attention?pm_campaign=front_page&pm_source=trending&pm_medium=web

kentuck

(115,007 posts)

5. Very interesting...

Reply to FalloutShelter (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:57 PM

15 hrs ago

I did not know that.

muriel_volestrangler

(105,326 posts)

8. Thanks for that - I had thought that the ultra-libertarian projects for Latin America had all crashed and burned

Reply to FalloutShelter (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:34 PM

15 hrs ago

but I see that Próspera is still being built.

Krugman's substack article: https://paulkrugman.substack.com/p/trump-pro-crypto-or-pro-crime

Próspera is also backed by multiple investors, including Balaji Srinivasan, Peter Thiel, and Marc Andreessen, through the venture capital firm Pronomos Capital.[15] In January 2025, Coinbase CEO Brian Armstrong said that his company's venture capital division would be an additional investor in Próspera to "grow financial inclusion and innovation."[11]

Construction began in 2021, with initial buildings designed by German architect Patrik Schumacher.[16] In 2025 it was reported that robots were turning wooden blocks into construction materials at a location called "The Circular Factory."[11]

Other than real estate sales, the city has held conferences such as 2024's biotech startup events which led to $1.5 million in venture capital investments; one of the themes was "Make death optional."[11] Próspera also hosted a "crypto cities summit" in February 2025.[11]
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The founder of Próspera, Erick Brimen, also has spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to lobby U.S. legislators to put sanctions on Honduras and end U.S. aid to the country if the Honduran government does not allow Próspera to continue operations.[11] In 2024, U.S. Representative Steven Horsford pressured Honduras by advocating for denying visas to their government officials if Honduras did not do as Próspera wanted (Brimen donated $5,000 to Horsford's campaign in 2023).[11] In the 2024 U.S. House budget, members also tried to pressure Honduras to allow ZEDEs to continue how they wish.[26] U.S. Representative María Elvira Salazar has claimed, "Socialists once again show that they are more interested in their own power and ideology than in the prosperity of their country."[11] As of 2025, ZEDEs—including Próspera—remain operational despite ongoing legal disputes.[27]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pr%C3%B3spera

ColoringFool

(139 posts)

9. OMG. SO DAMN MUCH THE HOI POLLOI KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.. .

Reply to FalloutShelter (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:37 PM

15 hrs ago

And CANNOT EVEN IMAGINE!

I pride myself on following the money, on being 100% cynical, and on digging and connecting dots (e.g , Vatican Bank scandal) (e.g , Trump was turned by Putin in the 80s) (e g., Trump’s "modeling agencies" and "beauty pageants" were an integral component of the JE saga, which itself has governmental ties beyond the US [See: Maxwell, Robert]). IMO, Project 2025 is simply GHWB's "New World Order" following our "New Pearl Harbor."

But in no way could I have thought of this connection to the pardon.

Whoever is Trump’s Main Money-Scheme Man (I don't think it's Jared) is Moriarty x 1000. A criminal mastermind of the first order.

Thank you for this information.

FalloutShelter

(14,067 posts)

11. I had no idea either.

Reply to ColoringFool (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:56 PM

14 hrs ago

Happy to share and trust Krugman implicitly.

BSDemon

(68 posts)

10. The dismissal of those 4 judges

Reply to FalloutShelter (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:52 PM

14 hrs ago

is costing Honduras $ 2 million in compensation due to a lawsuit they placed at the Interamerican Human Rights court. The dismissal of those 4 judges (magistrates in their terminology) happened during a congressional session at 2 am, when everyone was asleep.

flvegan

(65,558 posts)

3. ...and that was just Don Jr's supply.

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:55 PM

15 hrs ago

malaise

(291,605 posts)

4. While blowing up boats

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 01:56 PM

15 hrs ago

Ah well

senseandsensibility

(24,130 posts)

6. I know the media has been reporting on this

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:24 PM

15 hrs ago

but really this should be a major front page story for days.

kentuck

(115,007 posts)

16. This is what disappoints me with the Democratic Party...

Reply to senseandsensibility (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 05:21 PM

12 hrs ago

This seems like common sense that every American should have this information. It should be screamed from the rooftops. But, what do we hear from the Party spokespeople?

muriel_volestrangler

(105,326 posts)

7. I see that Juan Orlando's brother Tony was federally convicted during Trump's first term for being in the same cartel

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 02:25 PM

15 hrs ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Hern%C3%A1ndez

and using the profits to finance Juan's party, but Trump hasn't pardoned him - not powerful enough, I guess.

Yes, this is a Big Story. We should mention it (using "hundreds of tons of cocaine" ) as much as possible.

Sogo

(6,883 posts)

12. Yep. It's as big as him pardoning all the pedos and human traffickers....

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:29 PM

13 hrs ago

I saw the post that someone (a victim) is suing him for having a trafficking ring as big as Epstein's....

That's what I've suspected....

GiqueCee

(3,117 posts)

13. 500 tons of Peruvian marching powder...

Reply to kentuck (Original post)

Tue Dec 2, 2025, 04:29 PM

13 hrs ago

... means there's a commensurate sum sitting in an off-shore account somewhere. Now keep in mind the irrefutable fact that EVERYTHING Trump does is transactional. It's all about the Benjamins. ALWAYS. So the question is: How much was the bribe for the pardon?