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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsDemocrats can't endorse "vigilantism" even if we sometimes think it's deserved.
You can hope for it or dream about it sometimes, but don't actually literally endorse it unless you want to be like these Republicans saying whatever Hegseth might have done, those "terrorists" in the boats deserved it lawful or not.
It's the argument, that they are bad enough, we can ignore due process, or proper identification, or actually telling the American people the details of what happening. It's a horrible slippery slope. Who wants a man like Trump making those decisions, Not me!
Let's not go there with them.
That's my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.
marble falls
(69,952 posts)karynnj
(60,719 posts)If Trump and his administration is correct, these boats are involved in drug running. They are not a military threat to our forces. They could be stopped, investigated, and, if warranted arrested and tried.
If they are wrong, we blew up fishing boats.
When there is no war, no fear that you will be ambushed, could there really be fog of war. If there is any 'fog" it is of Hegseth's making.
marble falls
(69,952 posts)... interning and euthanasia of "defectives" and political "extremists" happened before the war.
So I guess you're right. Don't fight back before it's toooo late. A lot of folks, polite ones, will be surprised when their charm offensive melts in front of RWers who've made no secret of being ready to execute Democrats. RWers who are armed and ready to go to work.
karynnj
(60,719 posts)As it was the video from Kelly and the others was well timed.
What I was saying is that they can not use fog of war, because the military asked to do these illegal things are not in fear of their lives. They probably are in fear of losing their careers and even imprisonment
marble falls
(69,952 posts)... just because we aren't at war does not mean they aren't.
Walleye
(43,436 posts)Thats what it does to us, not the other side. Its how do we want to think of ourselves? Not how do we get back at them?
RoeVWade
(732 posts)not be given a pass. They're trying to drag us there with them with things like "what do you love killing people with drugs?" and so forth.
DON'T GO. Don't fall for the false guilt tripping.
Walleye
(43,436 posts)marble falls
(69,952 posts)MichMan
(16,422 posts)leftstreet
(38,576 posts)MichMan
(16,422 posts)Happy Hoosier
(9,327 posts)While I agree that we need to maintain some discipline and respect for process.
But make no mistake: our enemies know that this is their shot to permanently seize power, with the prospect for no meaningful challenge to their power for a generation. They will do WHATEVER they can get away with to make that happen.
While we maintain our integrity, we MUST be willing to get in the mud and fight. This is our last chance. Right now.
EdmondDantes_
(1,228 posts)I get the urge, but I don't want to become the thing I find immoral.
marble falls
(69,952 posts)kacekwl
(8,814 posts)the first boat hit to the last one. How can you argue the point. The 2 "survivors" were just blatant in our faces but all were murdered. All involved should be charged and convicted including trump.
Skittles
(168,842 posts)fucking disgusting
Maru Kitteh
(31,088 posts)Thank you.