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Shellback Squid

(9,836 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 10:49 PM 19 hrs ago

The speedboat double tap occurred on September 2 2025, in October they returned survivors to

their counties, Ecuador and Colombia, they/hegseth knew the Sept incident was illegal and I believe push back from Bradley stopped future killings.

just trying to see the path of decisions

“Admiral Mitch Bradley is an American hero, a true professional, and has my 100% support,” Hegseth wrote on social media. “I stand by him and the combat decisions he has made — on the September 2 mission and all others since.”

AI*

Yes, the two survivors of the U.S. military strike on a suspected drug boat in the Caribbean on October 16, 2025, were
returned to their home countries of Ecuador and Colombia within a few days of the incident.
The U.S. government decided to repatriate the survivors, which allowed them to be detained and prosecuted in their home countries and avoided complex legal issues surrounding military detention in the U.S. for suspected drug traffickers.

Colombia opened an investigation into the activities of its national, who had suffered injuries.
Ecuador released its survivor after authorities determined there was no evidence of a crime committed in the nation.

This incident was significant because it was the first U.S. military strike on an alleged drug vessel in the ongoing campaign where there were known survivors. The other two crew members on the vessel were killed in the strike

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The speedboat double tap occurred on September 2 2025, in October they returned survivors to (Original Post) Shellback Squid 19 hrs ago OP
Why would you believe "push back from Bradley stopped future killings"? RockRaven 19 hrs ago #1
I have no idea but, gab13by13 19 hrs ago #4
The innate seaman rule that you rescue survivors, double tap happened once that we know of and none since then Shellback Squid 19 hrs ago #6
According to the public reporting he gave that order to fire on shipwreck survivors. RockRaven 18 hrs ago #8
Put Bradley under oath and ask him questions. Sneederbunk 19 hrs ago #7
Anyone watch Nicolle Wallace today? gab13by13 19 hrs ago #2
I would say the third thing would be less people to divide the money between Bayard 18 hrs ago #11
the same reasoning could be applied to almost any variety of boating activity stopdiggin 17 hrs ago #13
Yeah, okay, got it -- thanks for helping map out a timeline for this explosive story, Squid!! Leghorn21 19 hrs ago #3
Admiral Bradley is still giving his blessing gab13by13 19 hrs ago #5
? Shellback Squid 18 hrs ago #10
The dreadful wind and rain struggle4progress 18 hrs ago #9
No witnesses can live Bayard 17 hrs ago #12

RockRaven

(18,522 posts)
1. Why would you believe "push back from Bradley stopped future killings"?
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 10:56 PM
19 hrs ago

From where do you get that belief?

gab13by13

(30,825 posts)
4. I have no idea but,
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 10:59 PM
19 hrs ago

I'm not letting Bradley off the hook. He can testify before Congress or resign and give a press conference to clear his name.

Shellback Squid

(9,836 posts)
6. The innate seaman rule that you rescue survivors, double tap happened once that we know of and none since then
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:04 PM
19 hrs ago

Bradley still has to be held to account

RockRaven

(18,522 posts)
8. According to the public reporting he gave that order to fire on shipwreck survivors.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:18 PM
18 hrs ago

An order, it should be noted, which is the literal textbook example of an illegal order which US forces must not follow -- killing shipwreck survivors.

There is no comparable public reporting that I am aware of (but feel free to share any) which gives any reason to believe he has anything to do with any restraint since that time.

In my opinion, projecting one's wishes, hopes, and copes onto one person because of affection for their institution is a mistake. Let your opinion of the one person be what their actions deserve, and leave the institution out of it.

gab13by13

(30,825 posts)
2. Anyone watch Nicolle Wallace today?
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 10:57 PM
19 hrs ago

She had on a retired Head of the Coast Guard who told some important facts;

No drug traffickers would use 11 men on their boat because;

1. Drug traffickers would use as few men as possible to leave more room on the boat for drugs.

2. They would also only use as few men as possible because there are fewer people to be involved in the illegal operation to talk about the illegal activity.

Krasnov and Whiskey Pete are murdering people and if they get away with it, it will soon happen in America.

stopdiggin

(14,826 posts)
13. the same reasoning could be applied to almost any variety of boating activity
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 12:36 AM
17 hrs ago

save pleasure cruising (or perhaps human trafficking?).

Depending on the size of the boat - you are only going to be working with the size crew needed - to get the job (whatever it might be) done. And that would apply to almost any 'working vessel' configuration.

Leghorn21

(14,003 posts)
3. Yeah, okay, got it -- thanks for helping map out a timeline for this explosive story, Squid!!
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 10:59 PM
19 hrs ago

Appreciated!

gab13by13

(30,825 posts)
5. Admiral Bradley is still giving his blessing
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:03 PM
19 hrs ago

to the military committing illegal acts by blowing up boats. Bradley seems to me to be part of the problem, the 1st strikes are illegal not just the 2nd strikes. The 2nd strikes are designed to cover up the evidence so that no one can prove or disprove that the boats carried drugs.

struggle4progress

(125,244 posts)
9. The dreadful wind and rain
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:19 PM
18 hrs ago
... And along the road came a fiddler fair
O! the wind and the rain!
and a-found her bones just a-lyin there
and cried O! the dreadful wind and rain!
So he made a fiddle peg of her long finger bone
O! the wind and the rain ...


Bayard

(28,070 posts)
12. No witnesses can live
Tue Dec 2, 2025, 12:13 AM
17 hrs ago

They don't want anymore of this:

"Ecuador released its survivor after authorities determined there was no evidence of a crime committed in the nation." I have not seen any follow up reports on this man's story, or the Columbian's. Color me suspicious.

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