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B.See

(7,486 posts)
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 10:53 AM Yesterday

America is in hell -- but history reveals its inevitable end

America is in hell — but history reveals its inevitable end  - Opinion by Thom Hartmann - Rawstory

Thursday was probably, politically and spiritually, the darkest Thanksgiving for our nation in our lifetimes.

Donald Trump has told us he’s going to use the 1807 Insurrection Act to declare a state of emergency, which will allow him to round up not only undocumented immigrants but also his political opponents, who he refers to as “the enemy within.” He came to power using Willie Horton-style ads trashing trans people and is happy to demonize anybody else who stands up to his hunger for absolute power.

In an age-old technique usually employed during wartime, Trump regularly uses the rhetoric America has employed against foreign enemies to characterize Americans who disagree with him and his policies.

n this regard, Trump’s trying to lie us into two different wars. The first is an external war against Venezuela, using America’s drug problem as an excuse. The other is something very much like a 21st-century version of a second civil war. A war by Americans against Americans, with his masked secret-police ICE army at the forefront.
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America is in hell -- but history reveals its inevitable end (Original Post) B.See Yesterday OP
Everyday, I hang my head in shame for what our country has become kimbutgar Yesterday #1
Archived link (no paywall) FakeNoose Yesterday #2
Highly recommend this story. Had no idea of this history. n/t dixiegrrrrl Yesterday #4
My only beef is with whoever wrote the headline for Hartmann's op ed. LudwigPastorius Yesterday #3
Thank you for posting this annielion Yesterday #5
I've long been a Hartmann fan, B.See Yesterday #6

kimbutgar

(26,557 posts)
1. Everyday, I hang my head in shame for what our country has become
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 11:16 AM
Yesterday

And I worry about my son’s future and the children I teach when I substitute. Wars, pandemics, poisoned air, water and soil that will cause more natural disasters. And having a “pResident who doesn’t give a shit about them and the rest of us” he doesn’t even care about about his magaloon cult members the useful idiots who voted for him and their lives are going to get worst.

LudwigPastorius

(13,920 posts)
3. My only beef is with whoever wrote the headline for Hartmann's op ed.
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 02:01 PM
Yesterday

As Hartmann sums up, there is absolutely nothing "inevitable" about how the future plays out for our country.

If we stand in solidarity with today’s truth-tellers, and more politicians step forward to take a leadership role, then it’s entirely possible that with the elections of 2026 and 2028 American democracy can once again prevail.

annielion

(84 posts)
5. Thank you for posting this
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 02:14 PM
Yesterday

Thom Hartmann who is so knowledgeable and was always so optimistic before this year, has worried me with his pessimism. Recently he said "I’ve been feeling something unusual these past few weeks: optimism. Not naïve optimism or the kind that ignores danger, but the real kind that arrives when you see people waking up, standing up, and refusing to bow before a lawless president who believes rules are for suckers and the Constitution is a mere suggestion rather than the foundation of our republic."

I agree. I see MAGA and the GOP falling apart. I see hope.

B.See

(7,486 posts)
6. I've long been a Hartmann fan,
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 03:04 PM
Yesterday

ever impressed by, not only his ability to grasp the big picture in all its complexities, but to boil it down and explain it in ways, easily understood.

So I'm hopeful as well..

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