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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTrump at 36% in Gallup is a BFD
36% approval to 60% disapproval is a big fucking deal. The poll validates all the negative polling data from so many other polls. Trump still holds sway among the Republican electorate makes that more dangerous for his party. That means pro-Trump candidates have the advantage in Republican primaries, but with solid Democratic disapproval, coupled with Trump's favorability in the twenties among Independents, the Republicans are being led to a political slaughter.
I can't see this changing in the next year. I don't see the economy improving or Trump modifying his despicable behavior. As bad as it seems now for Trump and the Republicans, I think it will get much worse before November.
vapor2
(3,528 posts)yardwork
(68,699 posts)MuirHero
(79 posts)Recent polling has shown that Trump has lost support from his own GOP voters since January when registered Republican voters gave him a 94% approval rating. Recent polling now has his approval among Republican voters at 88%, which is proof that the entire Republican Party, except for a small number of defectors, has gone full blown fascist.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/is-donald-trump-losing-republicans-what-polls-show/ar-AA1R9qV2
yardwork
(68,699 posts)Warpy
(114,299 posts)but his approval rating on the eve of his resignation was still 24%.
Some people are born stupid and others work at it and they all want to stay that way. While I think Fatso could conceivably get as low as 20-22$, I don't see him going any lower than that.w
ProfessorGAC
(75,477 posts)25% of voters have joined the cult and are sure they're right, no matter the evidence & obvious failures.
Another 5% care about nothing but low taxes.
30% is what I estimate as the floor.
Maybe done of 5% can be turned because low taxes no longer justify so an incompetent yet abusive administration.
But, good luck on flipping more than a tiny fraction of that 25%.
yardwork
(68,699 posts)It's not enough for people to be disappointed in Trump. Our politicians need to give them an alternative.
Walleye
(43,436 posts)Really thats what they fear
yardwork
(68,699 posts)Diamond_Dog
(39,387 posts)Walleye
(43,436 posts)Their misconception is: If we didnt send so much money to those people, we have more for health care or something Doesnt work that way Republicans arent going to allocate money for public services no matter what..
yardwork
(68,699 posts)It's hardwired into their brains as truth even though it has never, ever worked out for them.
Walleye
(43,436 posts)C_U_L8R
(48,631 posts)
with dismal numbers like that.
So theyre spending all their energy figuring out how to win unfairly
rather than doing things that people might actually approve of.
markodochartaigh
(4,739 posts)They need enough popular votes to disenfranchise and gerrymander their way to win. But giving their voters what the voters want economically is a no-go for the people who support Republican politicians, the oiligarchs.
So Republicans will have to concentrate on the social issues about which the oiligarchs either do not care, or are on the side of Republican voters. And this will be difficult to do as the economy stalls for 90% of the country.
Tetrachloride
(9,266 posts)Voting is not approval rating.
Voting starts with the actual motivation and positive feeling that's a result of the vote.
Non-voters / disenfranchised don't feel positive.
markodochartaigh
(4,739 posts)of the ignorant and apathetic third of the electorate is waking up, finally, and do not like what they see.
The Republican third is holding mostly firm as they follow their Dear Leader into hell. Although I don't expect more than a couple of percent of them to vote Democratic, there were about twenty percent who disapproved of Trump after his failed coup attempt and probably many of these will just stay home rather than vote.
Hopefully the moderate Democratic voters won't follow Schumer's example and refuse to support Democratic candidates who are too left wing for their taste, or even worse, support Republican-lite plants meant to weaken the Democratic candidates. It is going to be difficult for Republicans to gerrymander and disenfranchise their way to control of the House, but they are putting forth an extreme effort and we will need every vote.
ms liberty
(10,853 posts)36% is not as low as I want, but it will do for now.
underpants
(194,182 posts)but they do still lean very much to the right
Squaredeal
(697 posts)Theres always a portion of the population who willingly let themselves be swindled, time and again.
calimary
(88,655 posts)ProfessorGAC
(75,477 posts)There is substantial evidence that this was said by David Hannum , a Barnum competitor, who intended to disparage Barnum & his audiences after a dispute over the Cardiff Giant hoax. When Hannum wouldn't see the giant to Barnum, he simply invented his own "mummified" hoax. Hannum, in an effort to denigrate the competition used this phrase which is odd since he was already promoting his own hoax.
There is some history to suggest thr phrase originally was publicly used by Joespeh Bessimer to explain his penchant for running scams & cons.
But, as Barnum was known to respect his customers, it's very unlikely he ever said such a thing, and there is no such reference in his personal writings nor any direct quote from contemporary reporters.
Quoting him as saying that is a black eye that Barnum doesn't really deserve.
LetMyPeopleVote
(173,407 posts)markodochartaigh
(4,739 posts)I wonder how the check the veracity of respondent's claims of party identity. Of course there are some people who will always support any president because they think that it is patriotic. And there are some people who will say that two plus two is four, but will not commit to agreeing that two times two is four. Unfortunately both of these types of people probably vote.
Pototan
(2,935 posts)has mostly registered Democrats, which dates back to Jim Crow. they voted for Trump by close to 70%.
I'm sure there are still many Southern Democrats who remain Democrats out of some Civil War Heritage. It doesn't take many of these idiots to get to 3%.
andym
(6,047 posts)until then, he will retain his power.
Silent Type
(12,223 posts)I bet -- at least hope -- 5 to 10% would say "No they wouldn't vote for trump or other GOPer next election," but I'm not confident of that with these A-holes.
calimary
(88,655 posts)CANT WAIT!!!!!!!!
Oh PLEASE, Dear God, make it so!!! And the sooner the better!!!
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BradBo
(862 posts)Aviation Pro
(15,135 posts)Jungle warfare is a bitch.
llmart
(17,196 posts)Have we already forgotten Dubya's two wars where his administration wouldn't allow media coverage of coffins coming home a la Viet Nam? The GOPers know that the people turned against that war once they saw the carnage on TV during dinner time. Our media is bought and paid for by the GOP.
Boo1
(91 posts)Overall support is into the mid 80s from Republicans. That might still seem high, but consider that almost 70% of Independents and over 95% of Democrats are opposed to him. Also consider that they classify party by self ID. So, these aren't just Republicans, they are Republicans who are willing to self-identify as Republicans in the survey. That is a group much more likely to also support Trump than just those registered as Republicans.
Many of those are saying they are Independents because they don't want to associate with the Republicans right now.
It should be noted that almost 1 in 5 people who are self-identifying as Republicans are now saying they don't think Trump is doing a good job. In the July poll it was almost 1 in 10. In this inauguration poll it was less than 1 in 10 and Independents were supporting him at an even clip.
His support is eroding faster than a sandcastle at high tide.
Snarkoleptic
(6,204 posts)Even GWB had 28% approval at the end of his failed Presidency, add in more racists and authoritarians and they're up to 36%.
Joinfortmill
(19,705 posts)mercuryblues
(16,068 posts)You say that like it's a bad thing.
Pototan
(2,935 posts)If it turns out to be accurate, I will be gleeful.
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