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If Hegseth Gave an Order to Kill Everybody, He Must Be Removed and Prosecuted
by Thom Hartmann | November 30, 2025 - 6:41am
from The Hartmann Report
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What the Post reports is almost too grotesque to absorb.
After the first U.S. missile ripped the boat apart and set it burning, commanders watched on a live drone feed as two survivors clung desperately to the charred wreckage.
They were unarmed. They were wounded. They were no threat to anyone. They were simply alive; inconveniently alive for a man who had allegedly already given the order that there be no survivors.
And so, according to two officials with direct knowledge of the strike, the Special Operations commander overseeing the operation ordered a second missile. It hit the water and blew those two men apart.
History tells us to watch out for nations that lose their moral compass in real time.
It starts when the powerful stop seeing human beings as human. It accelerates when the government itself denies any obligation to justify its killings.
And when leaders begin lying to Congress and the public to cover what theyve done, youre no longer looking at isolated abuses. Youre staring straight into the machinery of authoritarianism.
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http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/thom-hartmann/115565/if-hegseth-gave-an-order-to-kill-everybody-he-must-be-removed-and-prosecuted
Lovie777
(21,303 posts)those 6 assholes US SC justices gave shithole immunity, does this also cover murder?
Irish_Dem
(78,503 posts)malaise
(291,607 posts)Lock them up
Walleye
(43,437 posts)And lieutenant Calley? Trump would probably pardon him at this point.
Blumancru
(126 posts)Maybe the same people who stopped the destruction of the White House and who stopped our military from being used against us? The same people who stopped the vaccine disinformation and the rampant bribery?
Who will remove him?
Nobody, thats who.
The only one with power to remove him is pleased with what he is doing.
babylonsister
(172,514 posts)work.
Vinca
(53,099 posts)Drug runners pack the boat with drugs, not people.
Native
(7,282 posts)"The administration insists the victims were members of the Venezuelan gang Tren de Aragua. But in classified briefings to Congress, Pentagon officials have not provided even one single verified name of a trafficker or gang leader theyve killed. Lawmakers from both parties say theyve been shown nothing beyond grainy videos of small boats being destroyed from the air.
If these men had truly been highvalue cartel operatives, Trump would be parading names and photos across every rally stage in America. The silence tells its own story."
and...
"If the Posts reporting is accurate and multiple congressional offices say it is consistent with what whistleblowers have told them then the United States has engaged in the deliberate killing of wounded, unarmed men floating in the sea."
.....I hope those whistleblowers are protected.
Irish_Dem
(78,503 posts)You work your way up the food chain to the top dogs.
You don't kill those who can nail the cartel leaders.
Squaredeal
(697 posts)Lets see where the two parties stand on murder. (Sen. Sue Collins can be concerned.)
doc03
(38,700 posts)Bettie
(19,162 posts)...in this version of the world, who fucking knows what will happen.
bluestarone
(20,914 posts)CATCH-22 We have lost complete control. If anybody has answers that would get us out of this mess please enter them here. I'm even thinking that when we get control of the house, the only thing we gain is possible investigations, and we ALL know how that goes. DAM, the most beautiful country in the world is being destroyed by the WORST of the WORST!!
LetMyPeopleVote
(173,407 posts)
Iggo
(49,491 posts)Why would they care about the second pass?
DFW
(59,530 posts)Trump approved the attack, Hegseth ordered the killing, and Bondi is sure to have given the legal green light (backed up by at least Alito and Thomas, possibly the rest of the Trump Six). Good luck on getting your hands on THAT recording. Even if you did, The Roberts Six would find a justification for it. To them, murder is not a crime unless doe to someone they don't like.
Hegseth mightend up being Trump's Ernst Röhm, but I think Trump likes him too much for that.
artemisia1
(1,175 posts)Incidents like these show that your faith, if you have it, is misplaced. It is upon the populace to resist.