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Miles Archer

(21,180 posts)
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 04:54 AM Sunday

FIRST, a drinky-poo. THEN, MORE drinky-poos. THEN, Hegseth orders "KILL THEM ALL." THEN, Hegseth "LASHES OUT" at media.

Pete Hegseth lashes out at 'kill them all' report on boat strikes

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/pete-hegseth-lashes-kill-them-153331283.html

Hegseth is lashing out at a report that he ordered military officials to "kill them all" during one of the Trump administration's strikes in the Caribbean aimed a boat allegedly carrying drug cargo.

"As usual, the fake news is delivering more fabricated, inflammatory, and derogatory reporting to discredit our incredible warriors fighting to protect the homeland," Hegseth, 45, said in a Nov. 28 post on X.

The defense secretary was responding to a Washington Post story citing two anonymous sources that claimed he ordered troops to leave no survivors after a missile struck the vessel, which was traveling off the Trinidad coast, as two individuals were clinging to the smoldering wreckage.

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"At this point, I would call them extrajudicial killings," Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., said during an Oct. 26 appearance on Fox News Sunday. "This is akin to what China does, what Iran does with drug dealers − they summarily execute people without presenting evidence to the public. So it's wrong."

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FIRST, a drinky-poo. THEN, MORE drinky-poos. THEN, Hegseth orders "KILL THEM ALL." THEN, Hegseth "LASHES OUT" at media. (Original Post) Miles Archer Sunday OP
It is called MURDER. Irish_Dem Sunday #1
Yes, it was murder. The post-murder excuses are ridiculous. John1956PA Sunday #4
The survivors are loose ends at the crime scene that Kegseth and the military want to tidy up. Irish_Dem Sunday #5
J.A.G. 101 on rules of engagement. Duncanpup Sunday #2
Hey Pete. The Hague called ... Seinan Sensei Sunday #8
It's not paranoia, Pete! BidenRocks Sunday #3
He's a murderer purr-rat beauty Sunday #6
Your post reminded me of Peter Ustinov's remarkable performance as Herod in the 1977 miniseries BumRushDaShow Sunday #7
Yikes..."GUILTY IN THE WOMB"... Miles Archer Sunday #9
That's the type and depth of insanity that we are seeing BumRushDaShow Sunday #10
I envisioned IQ4.7 saying that KS Toronado Sunday #11
"That's exactly how he acts behind closed doors with his henchmen." BumRushDaShow Sunday #13
Fortunately for Hegseth, this is a federal crime. JustABozoOnThisBus Sunday #12
He's lying. Gimpyknee Sunday #14
Someone needs to capture video or at least audio of Hegseth's state of inebriation when giving orders of any kind. Vinca Sunday #15
Get this fucker in jail before he does it again Blue Owl Sunday #16

John1956PA

(4,655 posts)
4. Yes, it was murder. The post-murder excuses are ridiculous.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 06:00 AM
Sunday

The first excuse Hegseth proffered was that the initial strike was intended to be a "lethal, kinetic strike." Apparently, the second strike was a do-over.

The second excuse was that the few survivors, and the wreckage they were clinging to, constituted "a navigation" hazard which was justification for them to be incinerated in the second strike without any effort to rescue them.

Finally, Hegseth is now denying that he gave the order to "Kill them all." So much for chain-of-command accountability.

Everyone knew that, when Trump started blowing boats out of the water, there would be occasional survivors who could be rescued by the navy with relative ease. The two survivors from the previously reported such incident were whisked away and never heard from again. The survivors in this recently reported incident, who were clinging to debris resulting from the first strike, were murdered in the unjustified second strike.

Apparently, when Trump and his ghoulish handlers started this brutal campaign, they felt that, with regard to the specifics as the how the lives were being taken, nobody would notice.

Irish_Dem

(78,503 posts)
5. The survivors are loose ends at the crime scene that Kegseth and the military want to tidy up.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 06:10 AM
Sunday

The survivors are most likely proof the murder victims were all just plain fisherman.
Which disproves the crime scene cover up story that Hegseth is killing drug cartel members.

Even if the boats do contain drug mules, killing them does nothing.
The higher ups will just recruit more.
The key is to go after the top dogs in the cartel.

Yes the navigation hazard story is ridiculous. Send the US military to rescue the survivors.
We have some of the best military rescue teams in the world.

And yes when suspects start telling one lie after another about the crime and their involvement,
it makes them look very very guilty.

Duncanpup

(15,440 posts)
2. J.A.G. 101 on rules of engagement.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 05:28 AM
Sunday

You do not kill prisoners or the wounded or those unable to defend themselves and if you do it is a crime.
And rules of engagement apply to actual war this is murder.

BidenRocks

(2,592 posts)
3. It's not paranoia, Pete!
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 05:37 AM
Sunday

They are really coming for you!

Maybe you won't get executed for murder like the Captain of a U Boat. Sunk a Greek freighter with no causalities.

He ordered his crew to use machine guns and grenades to kill them all.

Sound familiar Pete? Your elevator is here. Going Down!

https://www.usni.org/magazines/naval-history-magazine/1997/february/peleus-war-crimes-trial

Study history Pete. Department of War Crimes

Douche-bag!

BumRushDaShow

(164,146 posts)
7. Your post reminded me of Peter Ustinov's remarkable performance as Herod in the 1977 miniseries
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 06:46 AM
Sunday

"Jesus of Nazareth". It's been hard to find the shorter clips as stuff gets purged off of youtube but this has the scene with him, which happens in the first 2 minutes -

Miles Archer

(21,180 posts)
9. Yikes..."GUILTY IN THE WOMB"...
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:10 AM
Sunday

It's the ripple effect. A mentally unstable 79 year old sociopath groomed and enabled a younger version of himself, powered by alcohol.

BumRushDaShow

(164,146 posts)
10. That's the type and depth of insanity that we are seeing
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:25 AM
Sunday

Seething rage from someone with a haughty ego that rants - "Better the innocent should die than that the guilty should escape". "This is MY world". "There's no room for two Kings here".

No stone left unturned.

KS Toronado

(22,405 posts)
11. I envisioned IQ4.7 saying that
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:30 AM
Sunday

That's exactly how he acts behind closed doors with his henchmen.

BumRushDaShow

(164,146 posts)
13. "That's exactly how he acts behind closed doors with his henchmen."
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:40 AM
Sunday

He posts rants like that in ALL CAPS on social media.

(and that miniseries came out almost 50 years ago )

JustABozoOnThisBus

(24,517 posts)
12. Fortunately for Hegseth, this is a federal crime.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:36 AM
Sunday

He will be pardoned for this and any and all other federal crimes.

The officer(s) aboard the plane that delivered the killing weapon, they could be toast. The chain of command between pilot/shooter and Hegseth are also guilty, but will probably just have their careers stagnate.

Vinca

(53,099 posts)
15. Someone needs to capture video or at least audio of Hegseth's state of inebriation when giving orders of any kind.
Sun Nov 30, 2025, 07:54 AM
Sunday

He was completely unqualified to begin with, and chances are he's drunk on top of it.

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