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Expected rightwing news cycle to amplify
Sea Turtle
(86 posts)If you were writing an article, how would you describe the gunman and this event?
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,366 posts)Charlie Kirk's killer.. News focused on kirk, didn't Villify people sharing the characteristics of the shooter.
FullySupportDems
(398 posts)That just made me think, How terribly convenient for them. And so close by too. It's perfect, a perfect tragedy to exploit.
JI7
(93,044 posts)marble falls
(69,991 posts)... a fair trial before the hanging? I personally believe in due process.
JI7
(93,044 posts)hlthe2b
(112,358 posts)We don't know what the motive is. Even if he used the phrase most associated with Muslim terrorist acts, though at its basis is not that at all (the term, sans any other context, merely reflects a phrase meaning God is most great, used by Muslims in prayers and as a general declaration of faith or thanksgiving.
So, then after even the most minimal time to get the facts--all the facts-- of who this person is, what had been happening in his life--what he told others--what groups he might be associated with, etc. Only then should published writings try to attribute interpretation and motive.
What MIGHT be an alternative explanation? Well, what immediately comes to mind is the fact that Trump has ended the protections afforded to Afghans who came here after having worked with and to protect our troops--thereby making them enemies to the Taliban should they return. Perhaps this is a direct impact on this man or his family. A lot of people have trouble accepting that the US does not honor promises--even after some put their lives on the line for them.
Maybe he is acting only out of response to hatred published online, and there is no mitigating issue that might explain his motivation. But, we sure as hell don't know now, do we?
haele
(14,948 posts)He might have gotten Asylum, but friends or family members (like parents or siblings) who came over with him or he's now associating with might not "qualify" and risk being sent back.
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marble falls
(69,991 posts)Tribetime
(7,002 posts)BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,366 posts)J_William_Ryan
(3,220 posts)Well, if true/accurate thats about as bad as it can get and expect the reprehensible racist, bigoted, hateful right to respond as expected.
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(1,607 posts)malaise
(291,629 posts)That is all
marble falls
(69,991 posts)Bok_Tukalo
(4,516 posts)TheBlackAdder
(29,911 posts)Came in under Biden, Asylum granted April of 2025 -- Trump's second term in office.
AZJonnie
(2,481 posts)Am I wrong?
Is the OP trying to say we'll be hearing a false storyline from the Right? If so, they should be more clear that is their intent IMHO.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,366 posts)Amaryllis
(10,884 posts)surfered
(10,629 posts)1) he was a jihadist or 2) he worked for the US Army in Afghanistan and feared he would be deported by Trump back to Afghanistan, where he would be killed.
We dont know yet.
onenote
(45,909 posts)Specifically how would shooting two national guard members on busy downtown DC street in the middle of the day address his fear that he would be deported back to afghanistan?
surfered
(10,629 posts)onenote
(45,909 posts)Amaryllis
(10,884 posts)hay rick
(9,250 posts)generalbetrayus
(1,431 posts)Deminpenn
(17,211 posts)an Afghani might harbor ill will toward the US military? It's not like we didn't spend 20 years fighting and killing there.
JI7
(93,044 posts)JI7
(93,044 posts)LexVegas
(6,947 posts)generalbetrayus
(1,431 posts)Brother Buzz
(39,404 posts)writes3000
(4,824 posts)To include all of the facts.
BlueWaveNeverEnd
(12,366 posts)writes3000
(4,824 posts)marble falls
(69,991 posts)JI7
(93,044 posts)Response to JI7 (Reply #21)
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James48
(5,066 posts)Would that be considered a legal act of armed warfare, and the perpetrator therefore entitled to Prisoner of War status?
Since the attack was on uniformed service members, how does the law of war apply?
Do the two wounded military members qualify for the Purple Heart?
moniss
(8,516 posts)from Afghanistan would have a bad feeling towards the US military.
JI7
(93,044 posts)Deminpenn
(17,211 posts)Usually asylum seekers fear for their lives in their home country. That's why they don't want to stay. Don't know if this person is one of them, but there were Afghanis who helped the US military as translators and guides. They'd be considered an enemy inside of Afghanistan making staying there very dangerous for them.
Figarosmom
(9,317 posts)He just gave reason for trump to say he's right to check all of Biden's asylum grants and to revoke their visas and hunt them down and deport them. The fact that trump approved the visa isn't going to mean anything. He will leverage this.
Things are about to increase by 100s of degrees.
Wiz Imp
(8,441 posts)He was granted asylum under Trump.
mcar
(45,545 posts)underpants
(194,206 posts)AZJonnie
(2,481 posts)Are all mostly trans and furries, it's like axiomatic.
iemanja
(57,220 posts)I saw that on X.
Kaleva
(40,104 posts)Just read the report on ABC website
dalton99a
(91,461 posts)
BidenRocks
(2,596 posts)He wasn't going to run away.
Klarkashton
(4,593 posts)He didn't do anything prior to this bullshit trump stunt.
Initech
(107,045 posts)Expect Trump to make a million calls to fire the mayor of DC and deploy a thousand troops.
Orrex
(66,502 posts)Norrrm
(3,640 posts)Coventina
(29,020 posts)BannonsLiver
(20,155 posts)Theyre the ones who let him in. 🤷♂️
Coldwater
(723 posts)through Operation Allies Welcome, one of them sadly flipped out.
A reasonable person would conclude the vetting process needs to be improved, but there should be no further action taken
JI7
(93,044 posts)and a bunch of young men got in .
no_hypocrisy
(53,952 posts)Rhetorical statement . . . . . .