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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI hope I'm so wrong about this, but it has crossed my mind?
So, the Kirks assassination was a right wing nut, yet they pounded their chests saying it was Antfa or another far left group. Remember? It didnt turn out that way after all!
What is going to be this time around?
What happens when they get wrong again?
They will still find a way to pin it the left just like they have in the past!
Dont be shocked or alarmed, but at the same time dont believe what anyone says! Its who they are! Manipulative and evil people who dont care about the truth!
LoisB
(12,129 posts)wcmagumba
(5,372 posts)PuraVidaDreamin
(4,418 posts)RAT
Russian
Asset
Trump
Deuxcents
(25,067 posts)Bluetus
(2,053 posts)is that it seems completely implausible that Trump could have been hit, and then show absolutely no damage to the ear just several days later. Trump jumped up as if in a well rehearsed show, when one would have thought that the Secret Service would have kept him on the ground and immediately evacuated him. But OK, Trump has a monumental ego and is an experienced showman, so maybe he just grabbed the moment. It could have happened that way. It is possible, but it seems about as unlikely as the Kennedy magic bullet. And there was no investigation as far as the public knows.
So we have no basis for judging whether Trump was actually hit or this was a carefully staged show. And the issue is that if it was a staged show, that says the Trump regime is perfectly happy killing two people in that instance, including one who seemed to be completely innocent. That would be a monstrous act, and nobody wants to believe that could possibly be true.
However, in the horrific scenario that it was a managed show, that would mean that Kirk's killing could have been the same as well as this incident -- in other words, if there is a complete disregard for human life in the service of keeping this regime in power, that puts events in a different light. Certainly, we know there is a complete disregard for human life as Trump tries to create a pretense for starting a war in Venezuela.
Let's all pray that the Trump regime is not this monstrous. But let's keep our eyes open and keep pressing for accountability and transparency.
ybbor
(1,691 posts)I dont doubt for a minute that they are not above this. He wants to impose martial law, or his spelling, marshal. This is an opportunity for him to consider it. A cornered rat will do any number of things to save their ass.
Unfortunately, these are the times we live in! If they would have just had the stones to convict his ass during the second impeachment. Cowards!!
Deuxcents
(25,067 posts)Mike Nelson
(10,872 posts)1. Killer was a "left-wing lunatic"
2. Killer was "indoctrinated" to become a "left-wing lunatic"
Silent Type
(12,225 posts)of a case against Robinson as a right winger. Just another disturbed killer with access to guns.
https://www.npr.org/2025/09/18/nx-s1-5544446/charlie-kirk-suspect-shooter-motive
imanamerican63
(15,773 posts)You made a very good valid point.
TommyT139
(2,113 posts)Kirk's shooter was far from an incel. He may in fact had as a partial motive Charlie Kirk's incitement of hatred towards trans people. Tyler whasthisname was not an involuntary celibate.
Silent Type
(12,225 posts)gonna be a tough case to make.
TommyT139
(2,113 posts)Just that if someone has a person they are dating, they are not an incel.
People do date trans folks, and it counts as a regular relationship.
The obsessions and motivations of incels have the capacity to do great harm when acted upon, but it's a different kettle of fish.
Anyway, seems entirely unlikely in the case of the Afghani guy.
Silent Type
(12,225 posts)as do most of these pissants who shoot people.
TommyT139
(2,113 posts)...given the war and all.
Enjoy the turkey.
stopdiggin
(14,832 posts)If you are using it incorrectly - or not sure what it means .. ?
Silent Type
(12,225 posts)stopdiggin
(14,832 posts)But - that doesn't make it so. While just serving to confuse people - and make anything else I might to say - less tenable?
Nonetheless - - And good day to you as well.
NickB79
(20,195 posts)Which is the opposite of an incel 🤷
bornsunny
(47 posts)B.See
(7,491 posts)my own thoughts re Trump being shot at during one of his hate fests, and the Kirk shooting, though none yet about today's events.
BUT, I put nothing past them. NOTHING.
EdmondDantes_
(1,232 posts)His family was, but if his issue was pro lgbtq+ rights that's not a right wing position.
Hassin Bin Sober
(27,336 posts)He was apparently in a relationship with a trans girl but that doesnt make him an LGBT advocate.
Im still convinced hes a Nick Fuentes ( also likely into fem/cat boys) groyper, gamer and borderline INCEL
He probably doesnt even consider himself part of the LGBT community
intheflow
(29,916 posts)No one has seen or heard of this alleged trans friend/lover, no agency has talked with them except for the FBI. I personally think he was a straight-up rightwing nut job and this story was created to cast shade on anyone LGBTQ+ just to have a leftist boogeyman to blame.
Also, some rightwing folks *are* okay with LGBTQ+ folks. At least white ones. Especially younger rwingers who have basically grown up under Ogberfell. About 40% of Republicans support gay rights, so it doesnt mean this guy was on the left politically.
viva la
(4,438 posts)Making very strong nasty suggestions.... pretty much saying she's not really grieving but grifting.
I love rightwing nutcase cannibalism.
walkingman
(10,202 posts)moreland01
(859 posts)the spin machines are spun up to make sure the Dems will be blamed. That's been the case since the dawn of politics. Dems just aren't as good at lying as the repubes, but we do it too.
Tribetime
(7,002 posts)He will try to do anything to distract from epstein
It's his fault anyway.They should never have been there
sellitman
(11,734 posts)In 10..9..8..7..
BonnieJW
(3,066 posts)And on MSNOW he's an Afghan national who entered the country in 2021 and was living in Washington
Tree Lady
(12,944 posts)Last April so Trumps people.
progressoid
(52,418 posts)accurate reporting.
Norrrm
(3,628 posts)It is much, much safer to arrest children than armed MS13.
KS Toronado
(22,420 posts)And started saying "Anti-Fascist" or "Anti-Nazi"
James48
(5,066 posts)An Afghani immigrant, granted asylum.
Thats the story now.
From the news:
BELLINGHAM, Wash. Federal sources tell KOMO News that the suspect who allegedly shot two National Guard soldiers on Wednesday afternoon had a connection to Bellingham in Washington state.
The suspect in the shooting has been identified by law enforcement as 29-year-old Rahmanullah Lakanwal, according to multiple law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation.
Lakanwal is believed to be from Afghanistan and came to the United States in 2021 under the Biden administration, the sources said. Lakanwal applied for asylum in 2024 and was granted asylum in April 2025, under the Trump administration, according to three law enforcement sources.