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imanamerican63

(15,773 posts)
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 07:29 PM Wednesday

I hope I'm so wrong about this, but it has crossed my mind?

So, the Kirk’s assassination was a right wing nut, yet they pounded their chests saying it was Antfa or another far left group. Remember? It didn’t turn out that way after all!

What is going to be this time around?

What happens when they get wrong again?

They will still find a way to pin it the left just like they have in the past!

Don’t be shocked or alarmed, but at the same time don’t believe what anyone says! It’s who they are! Manipulative and evil people who don’t care about the truth!







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I hope I'm so wrong about this, but it has crossed my mind? (Original Post) imanamerican63 Wednesday OP
Your last sentence says it all. LoisB Wednesday #1
They will blame the left no matter what, it's how they roll...liars always... wcmagumba Wednesday #2
Cornered Rats PuraVidaDreamin Wednesday #3
Haven't heard anything about the person who shot and winged TSF's ear at a rally..or the medical reports Deuxcents Wednesday #4
The problem with no transparency about the Trump shooting incident Bluetus Wednesday #21
My first thought was staged ybbor Wednesday #22
It's not what they say, it's what they do. Heard that from Rachel and I believe it.. Deuxcents Wednesday #23
They have two possibilities... Mike Nelson Wednesday #5
Kirk's killer was a gun nut, incel, etc. Otherwise, I'm not sure one can build much Silent Type Wednesday #6
My point was they will not responsibility. imanamerican63 Wednesday #7
Are you thinking of someone else? TommyT139 Wednesday #12
No. Still believe he's typical insecure person/incel looking for 15 minutes. As much as we want him to be a white winger Silent Type Wednesday #15
I'm not saying he's a rightwinger or not TommyT139 Wednesday #17
Technically you win. To me incels are just insecure/pitiful people who will kill because of it. He qualifies, IMO, Silent Type Wednesday #19
Good to know TommyT139 Wednesday #20
then maybe drop the 'incel' language ? stopdiggin Wednesday #27
I think it applies, but thanks for suggestion. Silent Type Wednesday #33
And I can insist that aardvarks are really monkeys (only really well disguised) stopdiggin Thursday #35
He was in a romantic relationship at the time of the shooting NickB79 Wednesday #25
With a furry? bornsunny Wednesday #28
Frankly, I have B.See Wednesday #8
The Kirk killer wasn't right wing from the available evidence EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #9
He was pro LGBT rights? Is there any evidence of that? Hassin Bin Sober Wednesday #26
The only info we have is from Kash Patel. intheflow Thursday #34
So Candace Owens is now in a pitched battle with the widow-- viva la Wednesday #10
Truth is always the strongest argument - until it is spoken as a lie and presented as truth. walkingman Wednesday #11
Any time there's an event moreland01 Wednesday #13
I don't put anything past trump Tribetime Wednesday #14
I heard the gunman was on George Soros's paycheck system sellitman Wednesday #16
I just read on Yahoo news BonnieJW Wednesday #18
I just read he was granted asylum Tree Lady Wednesday #31
It's almost as if the media is more interested in sensationalism and profits than progressoid Wednesday #24
Trump/ICE talks about going after the dangerous 'illegals' but they concentrate more on children and domestic workers. Norrrm Wednesday #29
Time we retired the term......... Antifa KS Toronado Wednesday #30
Of course! A Muslim Immigrant!! James48 Wednesday #32

Deuxcents

(25,067 posts)
4. Haven't heard anything about the person who shot and winged TSF's ear at a rally..or the medical reports
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 07:40 PM
Wednesday

Bluetus

(2,053 posts)
21. The problem with no transparency about the Trump shooting incident
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:40 PM
Wednesday

is that it seems completely implausible that Trump could have been hit, and then show absolutely no damage to the ear just several days later. Trump jumped up as if in a well rehearsed show, when one would have thought that the Secret Service would have kept him on the ground and immediately evacuated him. But OK, Trump has a monumental ego and is an experienced showman, so maybe he just grabbed the moment. It could have happened that way. It is possible, but it seems about as unlikely as the Kennedy magic bullet. And there was no investigation as far as the public knows.

So we have no basis for judging whether Trump was actually hit or this was a carefully staged show. And the issue is that if it was a staged show, that says the Trump regime is perfectly happy killing two people in that instance, including one who seemed to be completely innocent. That would be a monstrous act, and nobody wants to believe that could possibly be true.

However, in the horrific scenario that it was a managed show, that would mean that Kirk's killing could have been the same as well as this incident -- in other words, if there is a complete disregard for human life in the service of keeping this regime in power, that puts events in a different light. Certainly, we know there is a complete disregard for human life as Trump tries to create a pretense for starting a war in Venezuela.

Let's all pray that the Trump regime is not this monstrous. But let's keep our eyes open and keep pressing for accountability and transparency.

ybbor

(1,691 posts)
22. My first thought was staged
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:54 PM
Wednesday

I don’t doubt for a minute that they are not above this. He wants to impose martial law, or his spelling, marshal. This is an opportunity for him to consider it. A cornered rat will do any number of things to save their ass.

Unfortunately, these are the times we live in! If they would have just had the stones to convict his ass during the second impeachment. Cowards!!

Deuxcents

(25,067 posts)
23. It's not what they say, it's what they do. Heard that from Rachel and I believe it..
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:58 PM
Wednesday

Mike Nelson

(10,872 posts)
5. They have two possibilities...
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 07:42 PM
Wednesday

1. Killer was a "left-wing lunatic"
2. Killer was "indoctrinated" to become a "left-wing lunatic"



Silent Type

(12,225 posts)
6. Kirk's killer was a gun nut, incel, etc. Otherwise, I'm not sure one can build much
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 07:43 PM
Wednesday

of a case against Robinson as a right winger. Just another disturbed killer with access to guns.

https://www.npr.org/2025/09/18/nx-s1-5544446/charlie-kirk-suspect-shooter-motive

TommyT139

(2,113 posts)
12. Are you thinking of someone else?
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:14 PM
Wednesday

Kirk's shooter was far from an incel. He may in fact had as a partial motive Charlie Kirk's incitement of hatred towards trans people. Tyler whasthisname was not an involuntary celibate.

Silent Type

(12,225 posts)
15. No. Still believe he's typical insecure person/incel looking for 15 minutes. As much as we want him to be a white winger
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:20 PM
Wednesday

gonna be a tough case to make.

TommyT139

(2,113 posts)
17. I'm not saying he's a rightwinger or not
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:31 PM
Wednesday

Just that if someone has a person they are dating, they are not an incel.

People do date trans folks, and it counts as a regular relationship.

The obsessions and motivations of incels have the capacity to do great harm when acted upon, but it's a different kettle of fish.

Anyway, seems entirely unlikely in the case of the Afghani guy.

Silent Type

(12,225 posts)
19. Technically you win. To me incels are just insecure/pitiful people who will kill because of it. He qualifies, IMO,
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:37 PM
Wednesday

as do most of these pissants who shoot people.

stopdiggin

(14,832 posts)
27. then maybe drop the 'incel' language ?
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 09:20 PM
Wednesday

If you are using it incorrectly - or not sure what it means .. ?

stopdiggin

(14,832 posts)
35. And I can insist that aardvarks are really monkeys (only really well disguised)
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 12:47 PM
Thursday

But - that doesn't make it so. While just serving to confuse people - and make anything else I might to say - less tenable?

Nonetheless - - And good day to you as well.

NickB79

(20,195 posts)
25. He was in a romantic relationship at the time of the shooting
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 09:04 PM
Wednesday

Which is the opposite of an incel 🤷

B.See

(7,491 posts)
8. Frankly, I have
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 07:46 PM
Wednesday

my own thoughts re Trump being shot at during one of his hate fests, and the Kirk shooting, though none yet about today's events.

BUT, I put nothing past them. NOTHING.

EdmondDantes_

(1,232 posts)
9. The Kirk killer wasn't right wing from the available evidence
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 07:48 PM
Wednesday

His family was, but if his issue was pro lgbtq+ rights that's not a right wing position.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,336 posts)
26. He was pro LGBT rights? Is there any evidence of that?
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 09:05 PM
Wednesday

He was apparently in a relationship with a trans girl but that doesn’t make him an LGBT advocate.

I’m still convinced he’s a Nick Fuentes ( also likely into fem/cat boys) groyper, gamer and borderline INCEL

He probably doesn’t even consider himself part of the LGBT community

intheflow

(29,916 posts)
34. The only info we have is from Kash Patel.
Thu Nov 27, 2025, 12:41 PM
Thursday

No one has seen or heard of this alleged trans friend/lover, no agency has talked with them except for the FBI. I personally think he was a straight-up rightwing nut job and this story was created to cast shade on anyone LGBTQ+ just to have a “leftist” boogeyman to blame.

Also, some rightwing folks *are* okay with LGBTQ+ folks. At least white ones. Especially younger rwingers who have basically grown up under Ogberfell. About 40% of Republicans support gay rights, so it doesn’t mean this guy was on the left politically.

viva la

(4,438 posts)
10. So Candace Owens is now in a pitched battle with the widow--
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 07:48 PM
Wednesday

Making very strong nasty suggestions.... pretty much saying she's not really grieving but grifting.

I love rightwing nutcase cannibalism.

walkingman

(10,202 posts)
11. Truth is always the strongest argument - until it is spoken as a lie and presented as truth.
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:06 PM
Wednesday

moreland01

(859 posts)
13. Any time there's an event
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:17 PM
Wednesday

the spin machines are spun up to make sure the Dems will be blamed. That's been the case since the dawn of politics. Dems just aren't as good at lying as the repubes, but we do it too.

Tribetime

(7,002 posts)
14. I don't put anything past trump
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:18 PM
Wednesday

He will try to do anything to distract from epstein
It's his fault anyway.They should never have been there

BonnieJW

(3,066 posts)
18. I just read on Yahoo news
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 08:35 PM
Wednesday

And on MSNOW he's an Afghan national who entered the country in 2021 and was living in Washington

progressoid

(52,418 posts)
24. It's almost as if the media is more interested in sensationalism and profits than
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 09:00 PM
Wednesday

accurate reporting.

Norrrm

(3,628 posts)
29. Trump/ICE talks about going after the dangerous 'illegals' but they concentrate more on children and domestic workers.
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 09:33 PM
Wednesday

It is much, much safer to arrest children than armed MS13.

James48

(5,066 posts)
32. Of course! A Muslim Immigrant!!
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 09:58 PM
Wednesday

An Afghani immigrant, granted asylum.

That’s the story now.

From the news:


BELLINGHAM, Wash. — Federal sources tell KOMO News that the suspect who allegedly shot two National Guard soldiers on Wednesday afternoon had a connection to Bellingham in Washington state.

The suspect in the shooting has been identified by law enforcement as 29-year-old Rahmanullah Lakanwal, according to multiple law enforcement sources familiar with the investigation.

Lakanwal is believed to be from Afghanistan and came to the United States in 2021 under the Biden administration, the sources said. Lakanwal applied for asylum in 2024 and was granted asylum in April 2025, under the Trump administration, according to three law enforcement sources.

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