or know your username

We're probably ok.

I am a mere chit !

In the endeavor next year, thanks for the suggestion, and let him know he is welcome?

Wow that is one way to try and make things better but yikes, comes off pretty rude. Good intentions tough!

Pretty arrogant of him to expect you to pay for his "activism" or whatever he would call this.

Unless he wants it to be an excuse to not come at all.

If he means "comes from an American Indian-owned farm", I'd guess it's a vanishingly small percentage that do. Is he going to be similarly worried about all the other food?

And that goes for everything, turkey or not. Maybe there is no turkey! Who knows? Only people who show up!

And Columbus Day is now Indigenous People's Day.

Kids are dumb.

And this kid is a dumb ass if it’s true. Nothing pisses me off like dumb kids screaming about native rights while drinking a Starbucks and living in suburbia. Yeah - you live on stolen land too to give your house to the local tribes first or keep quiet.

If you want an indigenous bird - go hunt a turkey. Although most people would probably be stunned to see how little flavor a wild bird has. They are actually less gamey than factory birds.

But it's gaining popularity.

that's Columbus Day and stop being performative.

Also, it is his choice to eat or not to eat any food that is not ‘indigenously sourced’.

Or whatever you plan to serve for Christmas or whichever holiday you may celebrate.

That will likely shut him up.

Tell him you'd be happy to have him roast a turkey of his choice - enough for everyone - and thank him for hosting at his place. Also, ask that he have cranberry sauce that he has harvested himself organically.

Just sayin'. Seems like a plan.

for bring the turkey.

A wild turkey.
Tell him to bring his own bottle of 'Wild Turkey' if that's what's he's hoping for.

A little something for everyone

He can bring what he wishes to eat - and bring enough to share

— could happen

Sen Türkçe bilmiyorsun? In Turkish, ever since they adopted the Roman alphabet and ditched the Arabic, it was always Türkiye, which is how they pronounce it. They got tired of the jokes about the bird, so they leaned on the UN to change it from the English spelling to the Turkish spelling, which went through in 2022.

I had a small clique of Turkish friends while in college, and they insisted on my learning some of their language. This intensified when I told then I had "met a girl" in Germany. When I told them I would probably be spending more time in Germany (little did I know!), they told me I had to increase my knowledge of Turkish, because I "would need it there." I didn't know what they meant, but I found out soon enough. Fifty years ago, relations between Germans and Turks living here were not as cordial as they are now, and my tiny knowledge of their language opened more doors for me here than I ever imagined possible.

I now know far more Turkish than "Greak," and the film with Travolta didn't help in the slightest

i was obviously a notch ethnocentric

After a few decades of that, you learn stuff!

Time for Daniel Boone to use Daniel Boone methods

You don't even know about Indigenous People's Day? Wow.

That woke stuff! It's a bummer, innit?

I hope he’s good with a bow.

it is a still burgeoning ideology.

Does he have a source from witch to acquire one?

But being wild animals they weren't bred for edibility like their descendants, the big fat domestic ones. Even so, there's no such thing as a non-indigenous turkey.

They wouldn’t survive long in the wild. Wild turkeys, being native, thrive in such an environment.

They have become domesticated, but they were bred from indigenous birds. Their great-xxxx grandparents were native wild turkeys; a wild turkey and a domestic turkey are the same species, Meleagris gallopavo. No turkeys have lived naturally anywhere but the western hemisphere.

which is great for making pemmican.

Back when I raised turkeys, I had a friend who snatched some wild turkey eggs from nests in the spring. Put them in with the modern turkey eggs, and I'd have a good variety in the fall.

and if he like he can bring an "indigenously sourced turkey" to share with the rest of the family in addition.

And maybe he can let you know where you can buy an "indigenously sourced turkey" for next year,

I'd act deliberately clueless rather than outraged. It might get better results.

ON Edit:

I just looked up "indigenously sourced turkey." on Google and the only sites that came up were posts in this DU Thread. It might please you to know there likely is no such thing.

"Welcome to a vegetarian Thanksgiving dinner then!"

Pfft. Kids.

I don't think there is such a thing as "indigienously sourced"

Wake up and show the Inquisition they can't get to you!

...at him rather than for him...?

That said, best T-day wishes to all!

find that type turkey next year and make the meal for the family.

Here in California, we don't have many "Indigenous Turkeys", unless you consider Turkey Buzzards.
We do hav some local ranchers who do organic/heritage ranching that includes sufficient poultry - chicken, geese, "wild/hybrid " turkey, duck, pheasant, quail - to sell (pre-order) to local high end buyers and farmer's markets, but the fowl are still pretty much all Eastern US or European based stock (Chicken is not an American native bird) except for the quail.
No Grouse or Roadrunner, either.
As for the local indigenous tribes, they pretty much only raise chicken or duck.
So, good luck. Maybe he can get a hunting license next year and scour the Eastern and Southern back roads in early November for next year's bird...

If he's that set on an "indigenous" or heritage raised bird, best tell him the size you want, have him go to your local Farmer's market to pre-order it - and expect to pay $4 a lb.

I have a friend that runs a farm. They explained the whole organic no antibiotic thing. It means if an animal gets sick, they do not offer antibiotics. It either gets better on its own, dies on its own, or is put down to keep it from infecting other animals.

Cows that have been given antibiotics must wait a certain period before their milk can be sold. They are still milked, but it isn’t sold. When the milk truck shows up, the milk is tested for antibiotics.

Nothing more indigenously sourced than the ones I shoot in the woods near my house 🤣

Not the greatest for roasting though. I'm gonna grind mine up and make turkey sausage.

best "How Many Knees Can I Get to Jerk" award of the year. Maybe of ever.

It is a classic, and I congratulate you on your art.

"Imitation of Woke."

They are raised here, and their chickens are (as far as we know, and requested) not raised with hormones or antibiotics, but we have no way of controlling that. We just hope for the best.

When we are on vacation on Cape Cod, there are always families of wild turkeys all over the place, but we have been told that they are not suitable for eating, as they are tough and gamey. The domesticated ones must have undergone some selective breeding. I'm sure that suits the wild ones just fine, since nobody bothers them.

Luckily they're sold out so I can't give in to nostalgia. I'd have to go all the way to a Costco and those Butterball or similar turkeys are pumped full of water and preservatives and I can't bring myself to pay that much for turkey water.

Supermarkets sell whole chickens in December so I pretend it's turkey, but these very expensive chickens are usually pale scrawny pathetic carcasses that should go straight into a stock pot and given some privacy, not made to put on airs and be paraded around as the centerpiece of a festive holiday meal. A Cratchit chicken.

Make all kinds of demands upon the rest of us. I will tell you that ever since I was a young man, and somebody placed certain conditions upon me for attendance or participation, my response was almost literally “go fuck yourself“.

I once invited a friend of mine to attend a party, and he actually said to me “I don’t know… Who’s coming?“. My response was, “not you“. And left it at that. He quickly got the “joke“ and apologized, but I have absolutely no patience for this shit. Sorry, but that’s me… Or more correctly, that is I.

Good luck