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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think its becoming clear the only way to end the war in Ukraine
is for Europe to move in and directly counter Putin. Roll in anti-aircraft systems, heavy artillery and boots on the ground. Putin is barely able to hold it against Ukraine. He stands no chance against the rest of Europe.
But what about the nuclear Threat, you say? I do not think Putin would dare to use nuclear weapons, and that is even assuming his antiquated arsenal is in working order.
Mike Nelson
(10,872 posts)... an "EU" force, as opposed to a "NATO" force. The latter could eventually join, but not now. Vlad is smarting from "losing" Sweden and especially Finland, so "NATO" forces might be too much, right now. There are countries, NATO and non-NATO, would would be willing to move "peace-keeping" "advisors" inside. Start near Poland. Have leaders rotating visits, including the UK Royals... Vlad won't bomb them. If he does, he's already decided and will start his WW with some assassination. Also, shore up Taiwan and other vulnerable places. Add cultural ties, business ties, leaders visiting...
maxsolomon
(37,980 posts)This is not the "only way to end the war".
B.See
(7,498 posts)to give this aggressor/bully more than what's merited. Especially Trump, and Putin's MAGA apologists/enablers/ACCOMPLICES.
Irish_Dem
(78,536 posts)If Ukraine cannot do it on their own.
I also agree, it is unlikely Putin will use nukes.
He could use small tactical nukes, but not the heavy duty stuff.
If it comes to that he will be too busy planning his escape.
And his escape plans entail a livable planet with some resources remaining.
BWdem4life
(2,902 posts)That's opening Pandora's Box. A nuke is a nuke.
Irish_Dem
(78,536 posts)Small vs big devastation.
Small tactical nukes may not provoke a world crisis.
Putin is said to be using chemical warfare and other underhanded battle tactics.
No one cares about it.
I don't think anyone will care if Putin uses small tactical nukes either.
rampartd
(3,249 posts)i'm wondering why he hasn't.
not really.
themaguffin
(4,878 posts)Deuxcents
(25,080 posts)And get this war over.
MarineCombatEngineer
(17,325 posts)is establish a CAP and notify Russia that they will shoot down any aircraft, missiles and drones that encroach on Ukrainian territory.
paulkienitz
(1,486 posts)InstantGratification
(407 posts)It pains me greatly to say these words: One thing TSF is right about is that Europe has leaned on the US for too long. At the end of WW2, it made sense. They were devoting all of their GDP to recovering from the war and rebuilding their countries. Now they are struggling to build the military production capacity to replace the US if we renege on our obligations. I won't pretend to be well enough informed to predict how this will go. If Trump WON'T keep the US engaged enough to hold off the Russians, I'm not sure Europe has the production capacity to do it without us.
paulkienitz
(1,486 posts)erronis
(22,236 posts)I'm not sure if the rest of Europe even trusts anyone in the Five Eyes anymore. Moles abound.
DingleBerryNW
(69 posts)moniss
(8,516 posts)one of the generals would put an end to the reign of Putin.
Emile
(39,673 posts)and allow Ukraine in NATO. If Putin continues his invasion, then NATO forces should force him out.
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Joinfortmill
(19,714 posts)Then charge Putin in the Hague for war crimes including kidnapping thousands of Ukrainian children.