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StarryNite

(11,941 posts) Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:16 PM Nov 25

They are using Mark Kelly as a distraction from the Epstein files.

They know there is no way they can win this smear against Senator Kelly and the other five members of Congress who made the video because they spoke the truth. But this is taking a lot of attention off the Epstein files.

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They are using Mark Kelly as a distraction from the Epstein files. (Original Post) StarryNite Nov 25 OP

I don't think most people care about Kelly one way or another SamuelTheThird Nov 25 #1

But now the talk is about Senator Kelly and not much mention of the Epstein files. StarryNite Nov 25 #4

Well, it is taking a lot of attention from the media. OldBaldy1701E Nov 25 #2

sadly for them, cognitive science says all people are hearing is "ILLEGAL ORDERS" SaydiTom Nov 25 #3

That's part of it, but they are helping Kelly build a national profile. themaguffin Nov 25 #5

Tell me, since January 20th, what HASN'T been a distraction from Epstein? usonian Nov 25 #6

It's like a school bully ThoughtCriminal Nov 25 #7

SamuelTheThird

(504 posts)

1. I don't think most people care about Kelly one way or another

Reply to StarryNite (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:17 PM

Nov 25

I mean thats unfortunate, but on the other hand they have nothing that can compete with the lurid spectacle of Epstein

StarryNite

(11,941 posts)

4. But now the talk is about Senator Kelly and not much mention of the Epstein files.

Reply to SamuelTheThird (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:20 PM

Nov 25

They are throwing anything out there that they can to deflect from the Epstein files.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,721 posts)

2. Well, it is taking a lot of attention from the media.

Reply to StarryNite (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:19 PM

Nov 25

We are not falling for it.

SaydiTom

(73 posts)

3. sadly for them, cognitive science says all people are hearing is "ILLEGAL ORDERS"

Reply to StarryNite (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:19 PM

Nov 25

And they are raising Kelly's national profile, and highlighting his history in the military and at NASA.

But if you read any George Lakoff or any other cognitive scientists of his school, they talk a lot about reinforcing a frame.
That's how brains work. And the key terms the brain picks out of these headlines is ILLEGAL ORDERS. A frame trump and Hegseth are stupidly reinforcing.

themaguffin

(4,878 posts)

5. That's part of it, but they are helping Kelly build a national profile.

Reply to StarryNite (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:27 PM

Nov 25

usonian

(22,826 posts)

6. Tell me, since January 20th, what HASN'T been a distraction from Epstein?

Reply to StarryNite (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:33 PM

Nov 25

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ThoughtCriminal

(14,688 posts)

7. It's like a school bully

Reply to StarryNite (Original post)

Tue Nov 25, 2025, 05:55 PM

Nov 25

Who thinks that they can distract from beating a kid up by setting fire to the school library.

He just keeps digging. This distraction is costing him support from active and retired military officers.

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