We're a long way from having any sensible discussions of a 2028 presidential candidate. We have to get rid of Trump first, and do very well in the mid-terms. Some time after the mid-terms, it will be time to start discussions potential Democratic candidates. Right now, we have more important stuff to do, it seems to me.

if we want a reasonable chance of success in a country that preferred a barely-sentient, grifting sex pest to two of the most qualified people ever to have run for the presidency, people whose only defect was the lack of a penis (a tiny, semifunctional one evidently preferable to none at all), I guess those two would be as good as any. But it's much too soon to start planning to redecorate the Oval Office, though God knows it will need it, along with an exorcism.

since they're both from the west, but that probably doesn't matter and maybe never did. Clinton/Gore did well with a regional double down. They could maybe choose high profile female cabinet members like Clinton did with Madeline Albright & Janet Reno.

For balance, if Newsom was the nominee, it seems like the obvious choices would be Gretchen Whitmer or Josh Shapiro. But, I think to win an election, it's hard to do better than Mark Kelly.

Kelly isn’t my first choice for president.

I don't think she'd be able to do the all the usual First Lady things that are typically expected.

When his name was high on the list of potential veep candidates in 2024. In their household the final decision to run will probably come down to Gabby-and I wouldn't blame them. She's been through so much.

House and possibly senate investigation. One in which, we can assume, he won't do well, because he's a bitter low achieving idiot.

Attack him on every level.

They’d be a perfect threesome to square off against the GOP candidate.

And our military personnel need a champion.

prefer he stay in the Senate.

can win by the widest margin and carry along as many seats as possible on their coattails. Kelly seems like he could be a solid nominee to do that, but I would love having a deep primary field to decide.

But our party is finicky and not sure he could make it through the primaries cause the left is looking for some socialist candidate that can win only 3 states,.

In 2020, when it looked like Bernie had momentum, nearly all of the other primary candidates dropped out to assure that Joe would become the nominee because Bernie could only win in a fragmented field.

There will be those who want a progressive candidate this time around and AOC and others will likely vie for that role. But, there are definitely Democratic primary voters whose primary criteria will be electability.

Historically, that's happened a lot.

supporting social Democrat-type candidates for president. I ONLY care about electability at this point. We can debate the issues after their sworn in. Thank God African Americans are a big voting bloc early in South Carolina in the primaries. We got saved in 2020 due to them.

In the past, I think the Democratic primaries have valued electability very highly. In 2004, Howard Dean led in all the polls until the primaries started and then John Kerry pretty much swept them. I think you have to go back to McGovern in 1972 where a more left leaning candidate won the nomination.

There will be a movement for 2028 where some people say that it's time for us to have a nominee who isn't another centrist and actually pushes to enact more progressive policies. My guess is that that will be a major dividing line in the primaries and that the candidates will be seen as falling into one camp or the other.

I don't oppose most of the progressive policies, my concern is whether that candidate can get elected, and I think a lot of people vote based on that like I do. I almost feel guilty that I really like Pete Buttigieg, but I'd be hesitant to vote for him for president because I'd be concerned that because of the way much of America is, being gay could make it harder for him to be elected. I do the same thing when considering very progressive presidential nominees and I suspect that lots of people do.

And I say this as a gay man. It's too early to that chance. We have to win in 2028 in order to save the country. We can't take chances.

would move to Chicago and take a professor job at University of Chicago or Northwestern and then run for the Senate from Illinois. There's pretty good precedent that he could then translate that to being president at some point further down the road.