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C Moon

(13,372 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 12:51 AM Nov 25

NFL and cable and streaming. Very little free available.

We just "cut the cord" as they say. Dropped our $200 per month cable tv for free tv: over the air antenna, and free movie apps—like Tubi.

It's been great so far (about a month). I bought a Roku Ultra, and a Tablo DVR. The antenna goes into the Tablo and gives us 265 stations (we live in Los Angeles).

But last weekend, I noticed that there is very little NFL available—and Monday Night Football is non-existent unless you pay for an app.

There was a time, when Monday Night Football was over the air (non-digital) and FREE. Man, these corporations are friggin greedy.

Oh well, NFL is a very violent sport, maybe it's best I stop watching.

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NFL and cable and streaming. Very little free available. (Original Post) C Moon Nov 25 OP
Isn't Monday Night Football exclusively ESPN now? flvegan Nov 25 #1
Last few years it has been a mix of ABC and ESPN exboyfil Nov 25 #10
It's Still A Mix ProfessorGAC Nov 25 #12
12 of the 21 games on ABC or ABC & ESPN in 2025 exboyfil Monday #23
In Phoenix if the Cards play on Sunday, we get the game over the air AZJonnie Nov 25 #2
Collinsworth's voice bugs me. It's nasally and he never shuts up. LisaM Nov 25 #5
My thoughts on Joe and Troy is entirely based on having suffered through Collinsworth the night before AZJonnie Nov 25 #8
Here ya go PCIntern Nov 25 #9
If I didn't know better, I'd say that I wrote that! C Moon Nov 25 #6
I have FUBO BidenRocks Nov 25 #3
Wow! That's nuts! C Moon Nov 25 #7
I may not be a sports fan sakabatou Nov 25 #4
Way things are going you are probably exboyfil Nov 25 #11
Is this really true? EdmondDantes_ Nov 25 #13
Yes its true Tree Lady Nov 25 #16
"Man, these corporations are friggin greedy" OldBaldy1701E Nov 25 #14
I have an old $10 antenna (rabbit ears) and I get Monday night football on ABC and... 2MuchNoise Nov 25 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Jersey Devil Nov 25 #17
Pro tip for today: Mute the talking heads MagickMuffin Nov 25 #18
you could try radio, but that's usually out of sync with TV pstokely Wednesday #22
Also cut the cable and full circle Prairie_Seagull Nov 25 #19
Oh gawd. I hope they don't do that. C Moon Nov 25 #20
CBS, Fox and NBC televise games on Sundays, and that's twelve hours of free, over-the-air football. Xavier Breath Nov 25 #21

flvegan

(65,558 posts)
1. Isn't Monday Night Football exclusively ESPN now?
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 01:07 AM
Nov 25

I know it used to be network tv.

As for there being no NFL on network tv, there are two network games on Thanksgiving this week and 4 games on this coming Sunday. At least where I am. I believe Thursday night football streams on Amazon Prime at least.

If you need more NFL than that, might want to get a sports package to stream on Roku.

exboyfil

(18,324 posts)
10. Last few years it has been a mix of ABC and ESPN
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 06:44 AM
Nov 25

Last night it was ESPN. Sometimes two MNF games in a night split between the two networks.

I know I have watched little football this year. Would rather be outside walking.

ProfessorGAC

(75,477 posts)
12. It's Still A Mix
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 07:45 AM
Nov 25

I believe your remembering wrongly.
The last 3 seasons MNF is on ESPN, with the local markets for the 2 teams on ABC. It's lije that this year too.
Early in each of the last 3 seasons, the NFL scheduled 2 Monday night games; one on ESPN the other on ABC.
So that hasn't changed the ladt 3 seasons.

exboyfil

(18,324 posts)
23. 12 of the 21 games on ABC or ABC & ESPN in 2025
Mon Dec 1, 2025, 08:38 PM
Monday


2025 Monday Night Football ScheduleEmpty heading
WEEK

MATCHUP

DATE/TIME

CHANNEL

Week 1

Vikings @ Bears

September 8
8:15 p.m. ET

ABC/ESPN

Week 2

Bucs @ Texans

September 15
7:00 p.m. ET

ABC/ESPN

Week 2

Chargers @ Raiders

September 15
10 p.m. ET

ESPN

Week 3

Lions @ Ravens

September 22
8:15 p.m. ET

ABC/ESPN

Week 4

Jets @ Dolphins

September 29
7:15 p.m. ET

ABC

Week 4

Bengals @ Broncos

September 29
8:15 p.m. ET

ESPN

Week 5

Chiefs @ Jaguars

October 6
8:15 p.m. ET

ABC/ESPN

Week 6

Bils @ Falcons

October 13
7:15 p.m. ET

ESPN

Week 6

Bears @ Commanders

October 13
8:15 p.m. ET

ABC

Week 7

Buccaneers @ Lions

October 20
7:00 p.m. ET

ABC/ESPN

Week 7

Texans @ Seahawks

October 20
10 p.m. ET

ESPN+

Week 8

Commanders @ Chiefs

October 27
8:15 p.m. ET

ABC/ESPN

Week 9

Cardinals @ Cowboys

November 3
8:15 p.m. ET

ABC/ESPN

Week 10

Eagles @ Packers

November 10
8:15 p.m. ET

ABC/ESPN

Week 11

Cowboys @ Raiders

November 17
8:15 p.m. ET

ABC/ESPN

Week 12

Panthers @ 49ers

November 24
8:15 p.m. ET

ESPN

Week 13

Giants @ Patriots

December 1
8:15 p.m. ET

ESPN

Week 14

Eagles @ Chargers

December 8
8:15 p.m. ET

ABC/ESPN

Week 15

Dolphins @ Steelers

December 15
8:15 p.m. ET

ESPN

Week 16

49ers @ Colts

December 22
8:15 p.m. ET

ESPN

Week 17

Rams @ Falcons

December 29
8:15 p.m. ET

ESPN

AZJonnie

(2,467 posts)
2. In Phoenix if the Cards play on Sunday, we get the game over the air
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 01:08 AM
Nov 25

We'll also usually get one or sometimes 2 other games on Sunday. Then SNF is always on OTA, but it's freaking Chris Collinsworth and OMG I hate his announcing. Not him, he seems like he's a great dude but just ... he's so freaking obsequious all night, it's like his whole job is to speak in ridiculous superlatives (esp. about whichever 'star' QB(s) are playing) and just generally state the obvious. Grrr.

Then IIF there's two MNF games, we'll usually get 1 of the 2 on ABC, but never if there's only 1 MNF game, then it's only on ESPN. I don't pay for ESPN but sometimes watch it at friends and go "man I wish Troy and Joe did SNF instead" lol.

I have to say though, the quality of the picture on OTA games is just OUTSTANDING, I'm just like I cannot believe this picture just comes through the air. You'd think for sure they're be a sacrifice on how it looks vs. streaming but there's NOT a noticeable difference (I know, it's all digital, derp, but it's a trip to me lol).

Then I have to also say I *want* dislike Tom Brady for some reason, but I just can't. He's like 2 years in the booth and he's already one of the best announcers, fairly easily. That lucky bastard is great at everything

LisaM

(29,450 posts)
5. Collinsworth's voice bugs me. It's nasally and he never shuts up.
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 03:14 AM
Nov 25

Mike Tirico deserves better.

I can't stand Troy and Joe. I have never liked Joe Buck, but recently I have been really annoyed by Troy Aikman making absolutely inane comments after every play along the lines of "if he hadn't been clobbered behind the line of scrimmage he might have broken loose for a big play" or "if he had intercepted the ball he might have had a pick six!" It's like every play he outlines a different scenario if some great block or missed tackle hadn't occurred.

I agree about the video quality. I don't have Prime but I have seen the Prime broadcasts in bars and they are amateur hour compared to the networks. They seem to have about a tenth of the cameras and equipment and the video quality is bad. Not only that, but they don't pan out. Every view seems squeezed from the sides, when TVs couldn't show letterbox. And they have zero engagement with the fans. On the networks, the camera operators are really skilled at crowd shots. Prime doesn't seem to care. Their camera work is absolutely robotic.

AZJonnie

(2,467 posts)
8. My thoughts on Joe and Troy is entirely based on having suffered through Collinsworth the night before
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 04:11 AM
Nov 25

And yeah, it's also CC's voice and the never shutting up parts. So I just find Troy and Joe much less annoying by contrast, but now that you mention their annoying aspects, I'll probably hone in on them and get annoyed now like you. So, thanks!

C Moon

(13,372 posts)
6. If I didn't know better, I'd say that I wrote that!
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 03:17 AM
Nov 25

I cannot stand listening to Collinsworth, then my friend told me he was an excellent wide receiver and said to be a good guy, so I tried...but just can't get past his hype about certain players in the games—and he seems to be wrong so much.

And I'm also not a Brady fan, but I think he's very good. But I kind of thought all along that he was going to be very good, because of his experience.

I really miss Madden. Loved watching games with that guy at the microphone helm.

BidenRocks

(2,592 posts)
3. I have FUBO
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 02:48 AM
Nov 25

Last night I switch to NBC only to see that now they are in a pissing contest with NBC so no game.
I went to the ESPN site and those bastards wouldn't post the score.
I fear my football days are also numbered.

Morning game at the pub. 4 beers (00)
1 small wings
Tip
That was 50 bucks for one game.

Yay team?

sakabatou

(45,594 posts)
4. I may not be a sports fan
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 02:54 AM
Nov 25

but there are reasons I sail the seven seas because a show isn't available.

exboyfil

(18,324 posts)
11. Way things are going you are probably
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 06:48 AM
Nov 25

Going to have a Fan duel account to watch some games. The whole ecosystem has gotten disgusting.

EdmondDantes_

(1,229 posts)
13. Is this really true?
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 08:24 AM
Nov 25

You can still watch 3-4 games on Sundays. I'm pretty sure that most Monday night football games have aired on ABC since the writers strikes a couple of years ago. Prior to 2006 the Sunday night game was exclusively on cable, so worst case scenario you swapped a game on Monday for one on Sunday over the air.

There are more games on streaming services now, but that's less than 2 games a week with Thursday nights, a handful of games played in Europe and a game played on Christmas. Even the Amazon prime game on Black Friday will stream for free to everyone.

But even when it was exclusively OTA, you were still only getting 3-4 games in your area.

Tree Lady

(12,944 posts)
16. Yes its true
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 09:19 AM
Nov 25

I am a Niners fan and had to listen to the game last night on Sirius because it was not on my local ABC, we dropped cable many years ago, have antenna and no ESPN where it was on. I followed gamecast and watched a pretend ball go back and forth.

We can't afford the extra channels but sometimes will go to local Mexican restaurant to watch game. Last weekend Seahawks were on Fox instead of my team so I haven't seen them in awhile. I live in southern Oregon so they show western teams.

OldBaldy1701E

(9,717 posts)
14. "Man, these corporations are friggin greedy"
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 08:47 AM
Nov 25

Yes, they are.

But, we let them do this without complaint and now they expect us to just pay or go away.

We used to put in the old football games into the Sega and let it do the 'self play' feature. We would then watch and bet on the game (nickel/dime/quarter) as well as other aspects (most yardage/longest pass... stuff like that). I guess we will have to start doing that again just to get to watch a game without going broke just to see it.

2MuchNoise

(665 posts)
15. I have an old $10 antenna (rabbit ears) and I get Monday night football on ABC and...
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 09:09 AM
Nov 25

...Games all day on Sunday on CBS and local Fox channel.

Response to C Moon (Original post)

MagickMuffin

(18,036 posts)
18. Pro tip for today: Mute the talking heads
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 01:08 PM
Nov 25


I do this with all the sports I tend to watch. Whether it’s football or baseball, which you have to pay to view which I’m not going to do. I didn’t even know baseball had switched to all pay to view.


But the worst offenders are Figure Skating. When you’re trying to watch the performance and listening to the music to judge the performance for yourself. However, starting with Dick Button, Tara Lipensky and Johnny Weir they never shut up. I mute them because it’s non stop talk. On rare occasions I can find a YouTube feed where there are no talking heads, and every skater gets to perform. Back when I first started watching I played my own music which turned out really good.

Here’s a rundown of pay to view sports that I’m aware of
Figure Skating (broadcast tv will show extremely limited viewing and mostly US skaters)
Baseball
Football (broadcast tv will show a few games per week but not as many as they used to)

Not sure about other sports.

But my question is:
Why did these bigwigs decide to make the viewing public pay for watching?
Are advertisements not worth it?
Did they decide more profits for their shareholders?

Those sports pay to view sports packages are expensive. The viewing public will have to decide food on the table or pay to watch a game!


pstokely

(10,842 posts)
22. you could try radio, but that's usually out of sync with TV
Wed Nov 26, 2025, 05:06 PM
Wednesday

if you have a 5.1 speaker setup, sometimes muting the center channel works to shut up the announcers

Prairie_Seagull

(4,570 posts)
19. Also cut the cable and full circle
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 01:25 PM
Nov 25

back to rabbit ears. How much you want to bet the 'over the air' signal won't be provided much longer. "I'ts football er greed nite in America."

Xavier Breath

(6,328 posts)
21. CBS, Fox and NBC televise games on Sundays, and that's twelve hours of free, over-the-air football.
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 11:21 PM
Nov 25

The same networks will televise the three Thanksgiving Day games. Again, for free and over-the-air.

True, Monday night and Thursday night games do require ESPN and Amazon Prime, but there's still plenty of free football.

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