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In It to Win It

(12,135 posts)
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 12:18 AM Nov 25

Ukraine-Russia war latest: Putin bombs Kyiv with drone swarm hours after Kremlin dismisses peace plan

A Russian drone swarm struck homes in Kyiv in the early hours of today, forcing residents to flee apartment buildings and injuring four.

The latest attack on the Ukrainian capital came at a key moment in talks to end the war, with Volodymyr Zelensky welcoming amendments to Donald Trump's 28-point peace plan following meetings in Geneva.

Trump had also hailed the progress made in those talks, writing on Truth Social that "something good just may be happening".

But hours later the Kremlin sank any hope that the framework of a peace deal could be agreed upon by Thanksgiving, with a Russian official saying Europe's proposed amendments were not constructive and did not work for Moscow.

In a sign that both sides remain far apart, the Kremlin said that Europe’s demands for Ukraine would not be accepted by Vladimir Putin but said that an earlier proposal by the US seemed “quite acceptable to us”.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/ukraine-russia-war-trump-peace-plan-putin-kyiv-drones-latest-news-b2871781.html
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Ukraine-Russia war latest: Putin bombs Kyiv with drone swarm hours after Kremlin dismisses peace plan (Original Post) In It to Win It Nov 25 OP
I read that the, "earlier proposal," arrived written in Russian Bayard Nov 25 #1
With Russia, both carrot and stick are very woody and stiff. Igel Nov 25 #2

Bayard

(28,095 posts)
1. I read that the, "earlier proposal," arrived written in Russian
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 12:22 AM
Nov 25

So, yeah--that was probably acceptable since they wrote it.

I really hope President Z sticks to his guns, and says NO, you can't take our land. And, btw, we'll be having Crimea back too.

Igel

(37,236 posts)
2. With Russia, both carrot and stick are very woody and stiff.
Tue Nov 25, 2025, 06:51 AM
Nov 25

And both get forcibly shoved up the "beneficiary's" lower orifice with great vigor and general enjoyment ... exclusively by the Russian side. (But when you're used to the Marxist-Leninist 'political philosophy', words like "general" can easily mean "only for our side".)

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