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imanamerican63

(15,773 posts)
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:10 PM Nov 24

Comey is still not of the woods yet, right?

What looks like a win is still a possible headache down the road?

“Without prejudice” means they can refile some type of charges against him, right?



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Comey is still not of the woods yet, right? (Original Post) imanamerican63 Nov 24 OP
Statue of Limitations is up Abnredleg Nov 24 #1
Statute is not up Jersey Devil Nov 24 #4
I don't believe that's true, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 24 #7
If so, then why was the judge's order to dismiss "without prejudice"? Jersey Devil Nov 24 #9
How do you know that the without prejudice wasn't aimed at James? MarineCombatEngineer Nov 24 #11
You may be correct, but Jersey Devil Nov 24 #13
This has got to be a Ketchcom 1 alert and no Ketchup bottle is safe tonight, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 24 #14
Could without prejudice mean just that it is done karynnj Nov 24 #18
My guess is that the DOJ will attempt to test the waters by rebringing it Tommy Carcetti Nov 24 #10
That's exactly what I'm thinking will happen also, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 24 #12
The judge in the case says otherwise Wiz Imp Nov 24 #17
We shall see.... Happy Hoosier Nov 24 #19
Incorrect: Celerity Nov 24 #8
The Statute of Limitations has expired. DemocratSinceBirth Nov 24 #2
They can always concoct another "crime." sop Nov 24 #3
I don't want Comey in prison, but he should always be stressed out, more than anyone else ck4829 Nov 24 #5
This message was self-deleted by its author RockRaven Nov 24 #6
Judge Currie basically slams the door on re-indicting Comey here. LetMyPeopleVote Nov 24 #15
Course he is malaise Nov 24 #16

Abnredleg

(1,237 posts)
1. Statue of Limitations is up
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:12 PM
Nov 24

so I don't think a new indictment can be issued unless a higher court rules the DA was legitimately appointed.

Jersey Devil

(10,703 posts)
4. Statute is not up
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:15 PM
Nov 24

They can bring a new indictment within 6 months since the original indictment was returned before the statute of limitations ran out.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,317 posts)
7. I don't believe that's true,
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:20 PM
Nov 24

Hooligan's appointment was invalidated so, legally, there was no indictment, so the SoL has run out.

Jersey Devil

(10,703 posts)
9. If so, then why was the judge's order to dismiss "without prejudice"?
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:28 PM
Nov 24

If the statute of limitations has indeed run out, then under what circumstances could "without prejudice" apply?

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,317 posts)
11. How do you know that the without prejudice wasn't aimed at James?
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:32 PM
Nov 24

The point is that the Judge ruled that Hooligan was appointed illegally, therefore there was no valid indictment, therefore the SoL has run out.

We'll know soon enough, but I'll bet that Blondi tries again to secure a GJ indictment against Comey and James with Comey's being ruled as moot as the SoL has expired.

Jersey Devil

(10,703 posts)
13. You may be correct, but
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:36 PM
Nov 24

18 U.S.C. § 3288 grants six months to re-charge after an indictment is dismissed "for any reason."

That certainly is at least an arguable basis for seeking a new indictment though the SL has run.

With respect to James, there is no question that they can re-indict her with a properly installed US Attorney.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,317 posts)
14. This has got to be a Ketchcom 1 alert and no Ketchup bottle is safe tonight,
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:38 PM
Nov 24

major, major embarrassment for Pedonald, Blondi and Hooligan.

karynnj

(60,719 posts)
18. Could without prejudice mean just that it is done
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 03:07 PM
Nov 24

without examining the actual charges? Thus if the charges are viable they can be resubmitted by a legitimate prosecutor.

As such, ANY other reason, and there are many, to reject the charges have not been examined. Shouldn't "without prejudice" go both ways?

Has the judge made note of the expiration date? The idea that ANY indictment, even if sloppy or be an illegitimate prosecutor stops the clock is a very bad precedent. Imagine a prosecutor does not have a viable case and the statute of limitations ends very soon. Getting an indictment with a shaky case could buy them 6 more months.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,342 posts)
10. My guess is that the DOJ will attempt to test the waters by rebringing it
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:30 PM
Nov 24

And then the court will dismiss it again, this time officially with prejudice, on those specific grounds.

Law can be a more exhausting process that it needs to be at times but it will get done.

However, if Halligan has officially been marked as illegitimate, I'm guessing they'll trot some other patsy out there in her place.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,317 posts)
12. That's exactly what I'm thinking will happen also,
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:33 PM
Nov 24

and I very much doubt that another GJ will indict James, given the monumental fuck up by Blondi and company.

Happy Hoosier

(9,328 posts)
19. We shall see....
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 03:10 PM
Nov 24

There's a good chance the Indictment will be tossed. And then it's over.
It's not clear that even without that that they could refile successfully. If they do, Comey could tie it up with motions for a while. And, of course, the courts can ppoint an interim USA who declines to file. We'll see.

Celerity

(53,276 posts)
8. Incorrect:
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:21 PM
Nov 24
18 U.S. Code § 3288 - Indictments and information dismissed after period of limitations

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3288#

Whenever an indictment or information charging a felony is dismissed for any reason after the period prescribed by the applicable statute of limitations has expired, a new indictment may be returned in the appropriate jurisdiction within six calendar months of the date of the dismissal of the indictment or information, or, in the event of an appeal, within 60 days of the date the dismissal of the indictment or information becomes final, or, if no regular grand jury is in session in the appropriate jurisdiction when the indictment or information is dismissed, within six calendar months of the date when the next regular grand jury is convened, which new indictment shall not be barred by any statute of limitations. This section does not permit the filing of a new indictment or information where the reason for the dismissal was the failure to file the indictment or information within the period prescribed by the applicable statute of limitations, or some other reason that would bar a new prosecution.

(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 828; Pub. L. 88–139, § 2, Oct. 16, 1963, 77 Stat. 248; Pub. L. 88–520, § 1, Aug. 30, 1964, 78 Stat. 699; Pub. L. 100–690, title VII, § 7081(a), Nov. 18, 1988, 102 Stat. 4407.)

DemocratSinceBirth

(101,570 posts)
2. The Statute of Limitations has expired.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:12 PM
Nov 24

If he's not out of the woods he can see the exit of the forest.

ck4829

(37,295 posts)
5. I don't want Comey in prison, but he should always be stressed out, more than anyone else
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 01:16 PM
Nov 24

Comey has done a lot wrong... he did help put Trump in the White House in the first time.

But an even bigger problem with James Comey is he urged this country to pretend that white nationalist terrorism is not a thing.

Response to imanamerican63 (Original post)

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,457 posts)
15. Judge Currie basically slams the door on re-indicting Comey here.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 02:38 PM
Nov 24

The statute of limitations has run.




Comey will still have to respond the upcoming appeal but he should get a final judgement at some point
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