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4bonhoffer

(124 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:15 AM Nov 22

Once again, he's a Russian asset

So many have mentioned this over the years

He’s been going to Russia since 1987

He’s a Russian asset. He will always do what putin tells him to do.

This is not hyperbole. It’s easily fact checked. Would love to see anyone in the Democratic Party pound the table about this.

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Once again, he's a Russian asset (Original Post) 4bonhoffer Nov 22 OP
He wouldn't ever even criticize Putin's haircut Captain Zero Nov 22 #1
Putin has a haircut??? BobsYourUncle Nov 23 #29
;-{) Timeline: Trump's Involvements With Russia Goonch Nov 22 #2
Poor Gorby. COL Mustard Nov 22 #17
Always bends his head toward his "target". calimary Nov 22 #23
Still grubbing for that trump Hotel Moscow... Wounded Bear Nov 22 #3
Shout if from the highest mountains! Baitball Blogger Nov 22 #4
106 counts of money laundering Blue Full Moon Nov 22 #5
All roads lead to Russia with this one! NCDem47 Nov 22 #6
Trump has never stopped being an asset. I do not doubt Putin has some major evidence to blackmail Trump and keep him Martin68 Nov 22 #7
The classified documents are the answer Puppyjive Nov 22 #8
And yet, he can't speak or read one word of Russian FakeNoose Nov 22 #9
It's both! Stupid and trusting. MLAA Nov 22 #16
He's pretty damn dumb. But, he's also cunning. Joinfortmill Nov 22 #25
If ANYONE... GiqueCee Nov 22 #10
You're correct and I believe we're getting there... FakeNoose Nov 22 #11
"Russia, if you're listening." (They were) czarjak Nov 22 #12
Yup. Peepee tape is just tiny part of the kompromat Joinfortmill Nov 22 #13
The Pee tape could be "P" for pedophile too. I'm guessing we'll find out soon. ChicagoTeamster Nov 22 #15
Russia targeted rich for recruitment. Leo Lauder (Estee Lauder heir) hosted Russian ambassador at luncheon for Trump ChicagoTeamster Nov 22 #14
I love the smell of billionaire money not fooled Nov 22 #18
Unfortunately nothing will teach voters to recognize lies spread by the right wing propaganda machine groundloop Nov 22 #21
The latest trump peace plan was written by putin LetMyPeopleVote Nov 22 #19
Many have known since the secret phone calls.... kentuck Nov 22 #20
Democrats would likely be more willing soldierant Nov 22 #22
Yup, it appears Russia 'bought' 'Piggy' a long time ago. Joinfortmill Nov 22 #24
Once again? Or always has been? OAITW r.2.0 Nov 22 #26
Always Was. Cha Nov 22 #27
This was a pure Russian wishlist LetMyPeopleVote Nov 23 #28
Yep, he doesn't even try to hide it anymore. GoCubsGo Nov 23 #30
Gee! I wonder why anyone would think that! kentuck Nov 23 #31

Captain Zero

(8,656 posts)
1. He wouldn't ever even criticize Putin's haircut
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:23 AM
Nov 22

But he will death threaten Democratic Congress people.

Goonch

(4,143 posts)
2. ;-{) Timeline: Trump's Involvements With Russia
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:23 AM
Nov 22

Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev shakes hands with New York real estate tycoon Donald Trump, at the State Department in Washington, Dec. 9, 1987 prior to a luncheon in Gorbachev's honor.


https://www.voanews.com/a/trump-involvement-russia/3695927.html

Blue Full Moon

(3,058 posts)
5. 106 counts of money laundering
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:45 AM
Nov 22

Taj Mahal casino fined in 1998. How it wasn't tRump personally is a question? Used slot machines to pay Russians.

NCDem47

(3,266 posts)
6. All roads lead to Russia with this one!
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:53 AM
Nov 22

I think this Epstein scandal has Russian ties too. He's fighting becuase it may reveal something that just VALIDATES all the past accusations and evidence. The smoking gun if you will.

Martin68

(26,769 posts)
7. Trump has never stopped being an asset. I do not doubt Putin has some major evidence to blackmail Trump and keep him
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:01 AM
Nov 22

in line. I also suspect Putin occasionally tells Trump to cool it and make a public display of distancing himself from Putin until things calm down.

Puppyjive

(904 posts)
8. The classified documents are the answer
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:04 AM
Nov 22

Why would any president want to keep such a big pile of classified documents? The only logical answer is Russia. Trump has always aligned with Russia while the rest of America has sided with Ukraine. It doesn't take a nuclear scientist to figure this out.

FakeNoose

(39,750 posts)
9. And yet, he can't speak or read one word of Russian
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:16 AM
Nov 22

Whenever he talks to Russians it's always in English, often with a translator that is supplied by the Russian overlords.
What is wrong with this picture? Either he's completely stupid or completely trusting when it comes to Putin.

GiqueCee

(3,121 posts)
10. If ANYONE...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:28 AM
Nov 22

... Democrat or Republican, were to "pound the table" about Trump's treason, then, Heaven forfend, they'd have to DO something about it. And any politician with a lick of sense knows that getting re-elected takes precedence over a little thing like honoring their sworn duty to defend the Constitution against ALL enemies, foreign or domestic. Especially if the Manchurian Candidate in question is Teflon Don. He done gots dirt on evvabuddy!

FakeNoose

(39,750 posts)
11. You're correct and I believe we're getting there...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:33 AM
Nov 22

It's going to take some time, but I believe the evidence is in the Epstein documents.

czarjak

(13,379 posts)
12. "Russia, if you're listening." (They were)
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:55 AM
Nov 22

"Russia's a ruse." (It wasn't)
Everybody knows that! (Almost)

ChicagoTeamster

(295 posts)
14. Russia targeted rich for recruitment. Leo Lauder (Estee Lauder heir) hosted Russian ambassador at luncheon for Trump
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:05 PM
Nov 22

Interestingly, Trump was initially introduced to the Russian ambassador at a New York Luncheon hosted by Estee Lauder heir Leonard Lauder.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/11/19/trump-first-moscow-trip-215842/

As Trump tells it, the idea for his first trip to Moscow came after he found himself seated next to the Soviet ambassador Yuri Dubinin. This was in autumn 1986; the event was a luncheon held by Leonard Lauder, the businessman son of Estée Lauder. Dubinin’s daughter Natalia “had read about Trump Tower and knew all about it,” Trump said in his 1987 bestseller, The Art of the Deal.

Trump continued: “One thing led to another, and now I’m talking about building a large luxury hotel, across the street from the Kremlin, in partnership with the Soviet government.”

Trump’s chatty version of events is incomplete. According to Natalia Dubinina, the actual story involved a more determined effort by the Soviet government to seek out Trump.


And it's not because they're left leaning. It's because of their greed and vanity. The Lauders of New York recently donated heavily against Zoran Mamdani and for Cuomo.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world/boycott-est%C3%A9e-lauder-family-s-1-97m-2-6m-political-donation-against-zohran-mamdani-draws-criticism/ar-AA1Q901Q?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=2e5df08a356c465ae5f695042a8c9cbd&ei=6

not fooled

(6,554 posts)
18. I love the smell of billionaire money
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:23 PM
Nov 22

burning up in an unsuccessful campaign.

Unfortunately, most of the time they have been successful. I hope the catastrophic Krasnov II regime enlightens voters to stop voting for candidates heavily backed by billionaires.

groundloop

(13,522 posts)
21. Unfortunately nothing will teach voters to recognize lies spread by the right wing propaganda machine
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 01:33 PM
Nov 22

People might, might be sick enough of tRump and the right wing to give Democrats a solid victory in 2028, but sadly after that I can already tell you what's going to happen.

It's going to take quite a few years to undo all of the harm done by tRump and his cronies, and a year or so after our victory right wingers will be screaming at the top of their lungs about a lack of progress. Enough voters will fall for this ploy and reelect the GAP in short order. It's inevitable because the right owns most media outlets and has complete control over what information (misinformation) is seen by the public.

kentuck

(115,008 posts)
20. Many have known since the secret phone calls....
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 01:21 PM
Nov 22

...and the meeting with the Russian officials in the White House after he fired James Comey and the laughs they had together as they kicked out all the American media.

soldierant

(9,193 posts)
22. Democrats would likely be more willing
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:17 PM
Nov 22

to pound the table if he base cared as much as two cents about this.

OAITW r.2.0

(31,159 posts)
26. Once again? Or always has been?
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 08:22 PM
Nov 22

I don't know what motivates Trump to support Putinover US strategic interests....but whatever it is, it's gotta be bad.

GoCubsGo

(34,596 posts)
30. Yep, he doesn't even try to hide it anymore.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 07:56 AM
Nov 23

The same goes for Little Marco and the rest of them. That includes our so-called "media." Nothing but a bunch of boot-lickers.

kentuck

(115,008 posts)
31. Gee! I wonder why anyone would think that!
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 11:35 AM
Nov 23

Just because he took a Russian plan and changed the words to English and gave it to Zelinskyy to sign. I don't know why he just didn't give it to him in original Russian?

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