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applegrove

(129,522 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 09:59 AM Nov 22

Harry Truman: socialism is what they called .....

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Socialism is what they called public power.

Socialism is what they called social security.

Socialism is what they called the growth of free and independent labor organizations.

Socialism is their name for almost anything that helps all the people.

—Harry Truman, 1952

Robert Reich (@rbreich.bsky.social) 2025-11-21T17:15:27.760624Z
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Harry Truman: socialism is what they called ..... (Original Post) applegrove Nov 22 OP
Of course. That's why Rethugs hate it. Diamond_Dog Nov 22 #1
Magats are so stupid they don't even know "nazi" means national socialist. GreenWave Nov 22 #23
Yeah, but don't tell them. soldierant Nov 22 #24
Authoritarianism is compatible with socialism. summer_in_TX Nov 23 #25
Of course they are compatible soldierant Nov 23 #28
DURec leftstreet Nov 22 #2
"Government ... for the people" equals evil socialism hvn_nbr_2 Nov 22 #3
He wasn't filthy rich, or filthy, or rich. twodogsbarking Nov 22 #4
Shared on FB. Martin68 Nov 22 #5
Truman was the man mountain grammy Nov 22 #6
Desegregating the armed forces markodochartaigh Nov 22 #14
I wish the Democrats would be more like Truman. Instead of like the billionaires. Autumn Nov 22 #7
Deserves to be an OP then maybe someone will pick it up and make a meme of it and put it on Blue Sky. applegrove Nov 22 #15
MAGAs to stupid and racist to understand that. BradBo Nov 22 #8
Ironic that ... BurnDoubt Nov 22 #9
Socialism is an economic system, not a political philosophy. Most Americans are confused over that. Lanius Nov 22 #13
Harry! Harry! Harry! (I named my cat after him.) On unexpectedly great man who rose to the occasion! NNadir Nov 22 #10
Conservatism is selfishness. Hotler Nov 22 #11
"The modern conservative... Wednesdays Nov 22 #16
Also from Prof. Galbraith (my favorite economist): lastlib Nov 22 #22
Think of the main word in 'Socialism' Mr.Bee Nov 22 #12
It's Red Queen territory... Wounded Bear Nov 22 #17
knr UTUSN Nov 22 #18
Just my humble opinion..but..I thought BattleRow Nov 22 #19
oh but.... Quanto Magnus Nov 22 #21
I always thought Jesus Christ was the original exemplar of someone who work for the common good. summer_in_TX Nov 23 #26
Wealthy/banks/auto companies getting bailed out Quanto Magnus Nov 22 #20
Give 'em hell, Harry! Rhiagel Nov 23 #27

GreenWave

(12,114 posts)
23. Magats are so stupid they don't even know "nazi" means national socialist.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 09:05 PM
Nov 22

It was added to make their party popular with the people back then.

soldierant

(9,193 posts)
24. Yeah, but don't tell them.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:59 PM
Nov 22

They'll believe that authoritarianism is socialism, when in fact authoritarianism and socialism are not even in the same continuum.
https://www.politicalcompass.org

summer_in_TX

(3,958 posts)
25. Authoritarianism is compatible with socialism.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 01:05 AM
Nov 23

Hugo Chavez and Nicolás Maduro both are / were authoritarians.

It's also compatible with capitalism as well as communism.

Same with the concept of a public good or commonwealth, which are also called a concern for the social welfare, a concept baked into American thought from the very earliest days. It's compatible with any monetary theory, and co-existed for all this time with capitalism, but is related to socialism and communism in some ways also.

BUT, it has never been linked with authoritarianism as far as I know. (Admittedly I haven't studied the topic.)

I wish, how I wish, democratic socialists would realize what they really mean is best described by a concern for the public good, the commonwealth.

Their persistence with the word socialism is sheer denialism. They think they can change people's minds. Nope. Socialism, while it can be used in positive ways, has also historically been used by very repressive regimes.

soldierant

(9,193 posts)
28. Of course they are compatible
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 04:42 PM
Nov 23

What they are noy is linked inevitably. That's the point of the link. Most people have no idea.

hvn_nbr_2

(6,741 posts)
3. "Government ... for the people" equals evil socialism
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:12 AM
Nov 22

Anything that government does for the people is evil socialism to these nuts because, in their view, the purpose of government is to give money and power to the rich.

They actually despise the idea of "government for the people."

mountain grammy

(28,513 posts)
6. Truman was the man
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:38 AM
Nov 22

Executive Order 9981!

Probably the most important executive order since the Emancipation Proclamation.

markodochartaigh

(4,760 posts)
14. Desegregating the armed forces
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 01:01 PM
Nov 22

was certainly a major push for equality, not only in government action, but in the minds of the general population.

Autumn

(48,698 posts)
7. I wish the Democrats would be more like Truman. Instead of like the billionaires.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:41 AM
Nov 22

Now it's Socialism for the rich and Capitalism for the poor.

applegrove

(129,522 posts)
15. Deserves to be an OP then maybe someone will pick it up and make a meme of it and put it on Blue Sky.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 03:09 PM
Nov 22

BurnDoubt

(1,306 posts)
9. Ironic that ...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:47 AM
Nov 22

They condemn Socialism because we associate it with overbearing repressive regimes imposing their policies of the point of a sword and targeting and harassing vulnerable groups. For those not paying attention, it should be noted that we're already heading that way under the MAGA JACKBOOT.
Poo Tee Weet.

Lanius

(642 posts)
13. Socialism is an economic system, not a political philosophy. Most Americans are confused over that.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:58 PM
Nov 22

NNadir

(37,033 posts)
10. Harry! Harry! Harry! (I named my cat after him.) On unexpectedly great man who rose to the occasion!
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:19 PM
Nov 22

Wednesdays

(21,491 posts)
16. "The modern conservative...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 05:05 PM
Nov 22

...is engaged in one of man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness".

-- John Kenneth Galbraith

lastlib

(27,297 posts)
22. Also from Prof. Galbraith (my favorite economist):
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 08:35 PM
Nov 22

"Liberals sometimes do the wrong thing for the right reason. Conservatives do the wrong thing for no reason at all."

Two of the best books I ever read: The Affluent Society and The New Industrial State. Profound works of erudition.

summer_in_TX

(3,958 posts)
26. I always thought Jesus Christ was the original exemplar of someone who work for the common good.
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 01:12 AM
Nov 23

Not identical to the economic system of socialism.

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