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maxrandb

(17,063 posts)
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 08:14 AM Nov 22

One of the reasons I joined the Navy

"I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction: 'I served in the United States Navy.'

President John F. Kennedy

From his remarks at the U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, Maryland, August 1, 1963.
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One of the reasons I joined the Navy (Original Post) maxrandb Nov 22 OP
The Navy turned my life around. Proud Navy vet. Emile Nov 22 #1
I joined for nuclear propulsion training. What love I have for the Navy developed once I was in and pretty quickly ... marble falls Nov 22 #2
Navy Nuclear Propulsion is a tough course maxrandb Nov 22 #5
We were the last of the Newtonian physics classes at Nuclear Prep School at Great Lakes. I was among the last ... marble falls Nov 22 #16
I think it was cool that ADM Rickover personally interviewed EVERYONE that was going into Navy Nuclear Propulsion maxrandb Nov 22 #20
I almost chose that route EYESORE 9001 Nov 22 #8
One of the reasons I went in was there were all kinds of high paying jobs for plant operators, the Navy got tired of ... marble falls Nov 22 #17
Always a Great Way to end a Shipmates Retirement Ceremony BOSSHOG Nov 22 #3
Agree and especially relevant today, as we remember and honor a fallen American hero maxrandb Nov 22 #4
I considered the Navy because my life was going nowhere at the time. Norbert Nov 22 #6
Now there was a President. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 22 #7
Fortunately, LBJ instituted most of JFK's plans with the "Great Society'. marble falls Nov 22 #24
Joined Navy as a boy. Prairie_Seagull Nov 22 #9
20 years adventuring. pfitz59 Nov 22 #10
Not in the Navy but I did specialty work for... S/V Loner Nov 22 #11
One of the reasons I was glad I didn't join the navy. Ping Tung Nov 22 #12
So, you must have been a Marine? maxrandb Nov 22 #13
There were more than a few sailors puking on that trip. Ping Tung Nov 22 #15
I thought Marines walked on water! marble falls Nov 22 #21
Not really, but we believed we could when drunk. Ping Tung Nov 22 #25
How did Shady Vance ever qualify? Diamond_Dog Nov 22 #28
Maybe that's why his career was so short and uneventful. marble falls Nov 23 #31
The only place I ever got sea-sick, on a tin can in the Sea of Japan... pecosbob Nov 23 #32
I joined to see the world. Got that and then some. SoCal Roomba Nov 22 #14
Truth is, I have no need to go to sea on a sub again. Four days on a cruise ship and I am more than ready to jump ship. marble falls Nov 22 #22
PT-109 almost cost JFK his life. Kid Berwyn Nov 22 #18
I was a hot mess physically and mentally when I tried to join the Navy. hunter Nov 22 #19
My dad went to Korea and ended up managing an officers club. He came up with a refrigerator and served ... marble falls Nov 22 #23
My mom, aunt, and cousin who served in the Navy were all Heidelberg grads. Diamond_Dog Nov 22 #29
My mom went to Heidelberg. Got family in Ashland, Toledo, Sandusky, Findlay ... marble falls Nov 23 #30
There were a lot of Ohioans in my time maxrandb Nov 24 #33
Pre that PoS Art Modell taking the Browns to Baltimore in the middle of the night on a busfrom the parking lot ... marble falls Nov 24 #35
I am NOT a conspiracy theorists maxrandb Nov 24 #39
Or the Bartolos. marble falls Nov 24 #45
Another Navy vet here. Permanut Nov 22 #26
Practically brand new when you got on. Did you get "twin screws" tattoed on yer butt? Knew a lot of tin canners who did. marble falls Nov 24 #36
I thought that was just a rumor being spread around by you jarheads.. Permanut Nov 24 #41
What the hell ... what did I ever do to you??? Blue and gold all the way! marble falls Nov 24 #42
My bad, senior moment.. Permanut Nov 24 #44
My son is a current active duty Navy Fire Controlman Aegis technician. bluesbassman Nov 22 #27
Good for him! Bet you're a proud dad! marble falls Nov 24 #37
Service Para722 Nov 24 #34
Para? Must have been airbourne. marble falls Nov 24 #38
I had an appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy but turned it down for Princeton. Borogove Nov 24 #40
Maybe not. Princeton was a good education, too! marble falls Nov 24 #43

marble falls

(69,973 posts)
2. I joined for nuclear propulsion training. What love I have for the Navy developed once I was in and pretty quickly ...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 08:35 AM
Nov 22

... it was a place where ability and achievement were recognized and rewarded. One got encouraged to grow and move up. If one got stuck at a certain level, they weren't allowed to re-enlist.

maxrandb

(17,063 posts)
5. Navy Nuclear Propulsion is a tough course
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 09:39 AM
Nov 22

I remember having to submit monthly letters that ADM Rickover personally reviewed. It was said that COs and Reactor Officers could get called for a "personal" appearance if the punctuation was wrong.

marble falls

(69,973 posts)
16. We were the last of the Newtonian physics classes at Nuclear Prep School at Great Lakes. I was among the last ...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:13 PM
Nov 22

... people in the US who were taught how to get the most out of a slide rule. You know who Hyman was, so you have to be an old coot like me!

maxrandb

(17,063 posts)
20. I think it was cool that ADM Rickover personally interviewed EVERYONE that was going into Navy Nuclear Propulsion
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 01:54 PM
Nov 22

and one of the first he selected was a peanut farmer from Georgia named James Carter.

I wanted to honor and remember JFK on the anniversary of his assassination, and thought this quote was appropriate.

EYESORE 9001

(29,371 posts)
8. I almost chose that route
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 09:48 AM
Nov 22

Went into electronics instead, not realizing there was a rating abbreviated ETN (Electronics Technician, Nuclear). I’m not sure my career path would have ended up all that much differently had I’gone nuclear’. I do know that the electronics training was top-notch and that I developed troubleshooting techniques that I use to this day.

marble falls

(69,973 posts)
17. One of the reasons I went in was there were all kinds of high paying jobs for plant operators, the Navy got tired of ...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:20 PM
Nov 22

... training guys and US companies stealing them so the USN has no certification accepted by civilian reactor users. The Scandinavians, particularly the Norwegians liked USN trained operators and they didn't need certificates from ex-Navy nukes.

I like sunshine and temperate climes.

BOSSHOG

(44,293 posts)
3. Always a Great Way to end a Shipmates Retirement Ceremony
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 09:09 AM
Nov 22

I have that timeless passage framed and on display in our home. That picture has a glorious aura about it.

Norbert

(7,495 posts)
6. I considered the Navy because my life was going nowhere at the time.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 09:41 AM
Nov 22

My best friend did and it changed him for the better. He was proud to have served.

MarineCombatEngineer

(17,317 posts)
7. Now there was a President.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 09:47 AM
Nov 22

I was in High School when JFK was assassinated, at that time, we only had 4 TV stations, CBS, NBC, ABC and the local KTLA, for the next 3 days, that's all that was on all 4 stations.

One year later, I enlisted in the Marine Corps.

I often wondered what he could have accomplished if he hadn't been murdered.

S/V Loner

(9,479 posts)
11. Not in the Navy but I did specialty work for...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 10:24 AM
Nov 22

the Submarine Service for over two decades and I feel a special bond with the service. I sold my business and they sent me a nice plaque.
The people I worked with were the best.

Ping Tung

(4,089 posts)
12. One of the reasons I was glad I didn't join the navy.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:26 AM
Nov 22

Several days on a LST on a trip from Japan to Taiwan. We hit the tail end of a typhoon to add interest to the cruise.

They gave us large empty coffee cans to puke in.

maxrandb

(17,063 posts)
13. So, you must have been a Marine?
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 11:55 AM
Nov 22

On my LSD, we used to try to make the Marines puke when the ship started rocking. A tin of Smoked Oysters was usually all it took.

Ping Tung

(4,089 posts)
15. There were more than a few sailors puking on that trip.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:06 PM
Nov 22

I din;'t puke but I didn't eat much. We were all joyous to fly back to Japan.

Yep. Marine 18 years old in 1962.

SoCal Roomba

(70 posts)
14. I joined to see the world. Got that and then some.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:00 PM
Nov 22

Best decision I ever made. But I’m glad I don’t have to do it again. 😂

marble falls

(69,973 posts)
22. Truth is, I have no need to go to sea on a sub again. Four days on a cruise ship and I am more than ready to jump ship.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:00 PM
Nov 22

Kid Berwyn

(22,472 posts)
18. PT-109 almost cost JFK his life.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 12:44 PM
Nov 22

Project ANVIL/Project APHRODITE cost his brother Joseph’s life.

And all Americans live in freedom today thanks to them, the United States Navy, and all the men and women who have fought to keep our nation since 1776.

ETA: Thanks to you, too, maxrandb!

hunter

(40,262 posts)
19. I was a hot mess physically and mentally when I tried to join the Navy.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 01:06 PM
Nov 22

They politely rejected me.

My mom and her family were pacifists and she always feared me and my brothers would be drafted. She would have gone to any lengths to prevent that, including moving our family out of the country. My dad would have gone along with that, she was his muse and they were inseparable.

Trying to join the Navy was partly an act of rebellion for me. I'd been groomed to be a conscientious objector. Mostly I was seeking some sort of order in my life.

My dad was an Army medical clerk during the Korean war but by the luck of the draw he never went to Korea. He was a nearsighted klutz who didn't like guns which is how he ended up as a clerk. If you asked him about his military service he'd say the Army taught him how to type.

marble falls

(69,973 posts)
23. My dad went to Korea and ended up managing an officers club. He came up with a refrigerator and served ...
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 02:10 PM
Nov 22

... cold beer, so he was never rotated. When his enlistment was closing they wanted him stay, but he was tired of not getting past PFc, so he got a corporal's stripe and did two more years.

My father was a fireman on Paris Island (though he did get sent to Italy and Lebanon in '49 for a couple of months).

My dad was good man and willingly served, my father was a Marine because he was given a choice when he got caught running numbers in Tiffin, Ohio.

marble falls

(69,973 posts)
30. My mom went to Heidelberg. Got family in Ashland, Toledo, Sandusky, Findlay ...
Sun Nov 23, 2025, 04:02 PM
Nov 23

... a lot of my father's mother's family cut glass at Tiffin Glass. They were from Belgium and Holland originally, leaving as the German army showed up in WWI.

maxrandb

(17,063 posts)
33. There were a lot of Ohioans in my time
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 07:42 AM
Nov 24

I left Ohio to see the world. I touched every continent during my Navy career, including Antarctica.

Standing on deck in the morning, and seeing nothing but water in every direction, is the closest I've ever been able to come to explaining what it feels like to be a Cleveland Browns fan.

marble falls

(69,973 posts)
35. Pre that PoS Art Modell taking the Browns to Baltimore in the middle of the night on a busfrom the parking lot ...
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 08:41 AM
Nov 24

... of the new stadium Cleveland built with tax dollars just a few years before and tearing down Muni (the largest pro venue at the time).

He came here with not a thing (he borrowed money to buy the Browns). Cleveland made him.

wiki

As Municipal Stadium landlord (1973–1995)

Modell took control of Cleveland Municipal Stadium in 1973, which had been owned by the City of Cleveland but had become too expensive for the city to operate or maintain. Modell had started the idea of buying land in Strongsville and building a stadium in the Cleveland suburbs. He worked out a 25-year lease deal with the city whereby his newly formed entity, dubbed Stadium Corp., would rent the stadium from the city for $1 per year, assume all operating and repair costs and would sublease the stadium to its two primary tenants, the Browns and the Cleveland Indians, Cleveland's franchise in the American League of Major League Baseball.[10]

As head of Stadium Corp., Modell was also the landlord of the Indians organization. This was a sound business decision even though the Indians played poorly and drew small crowds throughout much of the 1970s and 1980s. The Browns who were paying rent to both themselves and Modell, by constructing loges in the ballpark, generated significant cash flow from the loge rentals not shared with the Indians. Modell later claimed the loge rentals were not profitable as he had financed their construction at the prevailing high interest rates, although he did not explain why the rental income that was earned was not used to offset the debt. [citation needed] The Indians organization became dissatisfied with Modell's Stadium Corp. as its landlord. Modell did not share the loge revenues earned from baseball games with the Indians. Eventually the Indians persuaded City of Cleveland and Cuyahoga County voters to fund a new ballpark (which became known as Jacobs Field, later renamed Progressive Field) through new taxes. In turn, Modell was dissatisfied with the Indians' new ballpark because Stadium Corp.'s suite rental revenue decreased once Jacobs Field opened. Many suite customers switched their business from Cleveland Stadium's older suites to Jacobs Field's newer suites, due to the Indians' new-found success and popularity in the mid-1990s and because Modell's Stadium Corp. refused to decrease the annual rent for the suites even though the events for which the suites could be used decreased substantially (81 home games) with the loss of the Indians as a tenant. [citation needed]

In 1979, Stadium Corp. and Modell were implicated in a lawsuit brought by Browns minority shareholder Robert Gries of Gries Sports Enterprises. He had owned 43 percent of the team. He successfully alleged that Stadium Corp. manipulated the Browns' accounting records to help Stadium Corp. and Modell absorb a loss on real property that had been purchased in the Cleveland suburb of Strongsville as a potential site for a new stadium that had him claiming it was worth more than when he had sold the land to Stadium Corp. The lawsuit eventually ended in favor of Gries (he would later sell his family interest upon the move to Baltimore).[31][10] Modell was offered a place as a tenant in Cleveland's new Gateway Sports and Entertainment Complex. However, he instead asked for improvements to Municipal Stadium. Because Modell's Stadium Corp. still controlled Municipal Stadium, it may have made more business sense for Modell to try to keep the Indians at Municipal, particularly as the baseball team began to show signs of improvement both on the playing field and at the box office. Modell made attempts to make money with the stadium any way he could, which even included a deal to have the Stadium host Northwestern versus Ohio State on October 19, 1991. The game itself, referred to as "The Modell Bowl" was a dud for Northwestern, but they reaped the benefits moreso than Modell, as the game was thousands short of a sellout.[32] Meanwhile, the Indians went on to play in the World Series in 1995 and 1997, and sold out 455 straight games at Jacobs Field from 1995 until 2001. The City of Cleveland agreed to make the improvements to Municipal Stadium which were to be funded through an extension of the sin tax, which was instead used to provide funding for the Gateway Sports and Entertainment Complex.


He was an ungrateful piece of shit. No one in Cleveland cried the day he died.

maxrandb

(17,063 posts)
39. I am NOT a conspiracy theorists
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 09:50 AM
Nov 24

but somehow, the NFL (who probably has more investigators than the FBI) approved fraudster Jimmy Haslim to buy the Browns.

I am convinced that the NFL is punishing Cleveland for suing them over Modell's move to Baltimore.

Permanut

(7,832 posts)
26. Another Navy vet here.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 03:49 PM
Nov 22

1965-71 USS Sampson, DDG 10 out of Norfolk, Virginia.

I was drafted, served as a cook on that tin can. Even though most of my shipmates were also drafted, we were comitted to serving honorably, and we did just that, in the tradition of President John F. Kennedy and so many others then and now.

marble falls

(69,973 posts)
36. Practically brand new when you got on. Did you get "twin screws" tattoed on yer butt? Knew a lot of tin canners who did.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 08:48 AM
Nov 24

Permanut

(7,832 posts)
41. I thought that was just a rumor being spread around by you jarheads..
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 12:29 PM
Nov 24

Or is it? Anyway, Dad was Army, would have disowned me for that.

Permanut

(7,832 posts)
44. My bad, senior moment..
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 02:37 PM
Nov 24

I've just been trading insults with my Grandson in the Marines - I need to aim my insults more carefully.

bluesbassman

(20,364 posts)
27. My son is a current active duty Navy Fire Controlman Aegis technician.
Sat Nov 22, 2025, 04:16 PM
Nov 22

He’s on a destroyer out of Naval Base Everett. It’s been a very good thing for him. I’m an Army veteran, but his grandfather and great grandfather were both Navy so I didn’t argue much.

Borogove

(393 posts)
40. I had an appointment to the U.S. Naval Academy but turned it down for Princeton.
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 11:58 AM
Nov 24

That was without a doubt the stupidest thing I’ve done in my life. My dad was a Navy veteran of WW II and was deeply disappointed by my decision. What the hell was I thinking?

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