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Miles Archer

(21,187 posts)
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:48 AM Nov 21

Squeaker of the House MAGAt Moses Mikey: Trump wasn't making death threats, he was "DEFINING SEDITION"

Johnson attempted to defend the president’s language, dismiss it, and scold Democrats all in the same breath as reporters hunted him down on Capitol Hill to get his take on Trump’s wild posts.

He told reporters the uproar was misplaced. According to him, Trump was simply “defining the crime of sedition.”“That is a factual statement,” he said, insisting that lawyers would need to “parse” the statute. It was Democrats, he claimed, who were acting “wildly inappropriate.”

Johnson acknowledged he hadn’t seen the full string of Trump’s comments, an excuse the speaker frequently leans on. He nonetheless joined the president in going after the six Democrats who had addressed military personnel.

“For a senator like Mark Kelly or any member of the House or Senate to behave in that kind of talk is to me so just beyond the pale,” he said, abruptly ending with, “I’m not going to say anything more on it.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/panicked-mike-johnson-struggles-to-spin-trumps-death-threats/

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Squeaker of the House MAGAt Moses Mikey: Trump wasn't making death threats, he was "DEFINING SEDITION" (Original Post) Miles Archer Nov 21 OP
Mighty Mouse! Lying for Jesus! travelingthrulife Nov 21 #1
And then he scurried up some stairs newdeal2 Nov 21 #2
Look...that crazy man jumping up and down... MiHale Nov 21 #3
Johnson is a putz (n/t) PJMcK Nov 21 #4
He claims he is christian. is he not afraid of his deity striking him mwmisses4289 Nov 21 #5
Which only proves he is no Christian. Hey Joe Nov 21 #27
I wonder how much Trump is paying porn monitor and human pretzel Mike agingdem Nov 21 #6
He was trying to redefine sedition - as "standing up for the law against a lawless president" muriel_volestrangler Nov 21 #7
Lemme tell you... PCIntern Nov 21 #8
Kevin McCarthy wore me out when he put on his blue blazer and sporty brown loafers... Miles Archer Nov 21 #9
Hmmm.... harumph Nov 21 #13
And then there's BOSSHOG Nov 21 #14
Apparently, Mikey isn't familiar with the Uniform Code of Military Justice nor the true definition of 'sedition'. sinkingfeeling Nov 21 #10
It does not matter HOW MANY OF THEM TOLD, simply and emphatically, that... Miles Archer Nov 21 #12
The pride of Liberty University Kid Berwyn Nov 21 #11
Hey Mikey - here's a factual statement for you: onenote Nov 21 #15
Fuck that little squirt Traildogbob Nov 21 #16
Hey Mike, are you still touching kids? nt Hotler Nov 21 #17
"The president knows more about legal definitions than John Roberts dalton99a Nov 21 #18
At some point, an admission is going to have to made that Volaris Nov 21 #19
He's in proximity to power that no other Speaker has experienced Miles Archer Nov 21 #21
Give it up, Mikey. tavernier Nov 21 #20
We need a Speaker like Sam Rayburn RazorbackExpat Nov 21 #22
Mealy-mouthed fucking coward. Swede Nov 21 #23
Trump was defining himself as a wannabee fascist dictator. Ping Tung Nov 21 #24
Somewhere out there... biocube Nov 21 #25
It's Christians like him that give Christianity a bad name. surfered Nov 21 #26
Oh you mean like Jan 6-style sedition? C_U_L8R Nov 21 #28
MaddowBlog-'In the old days, it was death': Trump rages again against Democratic military veterans LetMyPeopleVote Nov 24 #29
Hey! Get Mikey to Try It! He Hates Everything! Hey, Mikey! MineralMan Nov 24 #30

newdeal2

(4,576 posts)
2. And then he scurried up some stairs
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:52 AM
Nov 21

Like a good little boy.

He is one of the most dishonest people I’ve ever seen in the Republican Party, and that’s saying something. If you want to be a Trump lackey, at least own up to it.

MiHale

(12,432 posts)
3. Look...that crazy man jumping up and down...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 08:55 AM
Nov 21

waving his arms in wild circles, screaming obscenities, spouting lie after lie?

He’s just practicing the song and dance he and his granddaughter will perform at the school recital.

Yeah, right.

mwmisses4289

(2,916 posts)
5. He claims he is christian. is he not afraid of his deity striking him
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:05 AM
Nov 21

down for all the lies and other evil he is spewing?

Hey Joe

(336 posts)
27. Which only proves he is no Christian.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 11:14 AM
Nov 21

All these “Christian” congressmen like to talk the talk,
but never do they walk the walk.
“ You will know them by their works “, indeed.

agingdem

(8,728 posts)
6. I wonder how much Trump is paying porn monitor and human pretzel Mike
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:07 AM
Nov 21

to defend, spin, and "Trumpsplain" his verbal vomit...

muriel_volestrangler

(105,330 posts)
7. He was trying to redefine sedition - as "standing up for the law against a lawless president"
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:08 AM
Nov 21

and Johnson has meekly followed him on his lead, and is now sticking his nose right up Trump's arse, whining "please like me, master!"

PCIntern

(27,875 posts)
8. Lemme tell you...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:11 AM
Nov 21

The Republicans have had some pretty awful people running for President and Vice-President for a number of decades, like 15 or so, but they’re nothing to touch their Speakers of the House. What a bunch.

I won’t list the names because I just ate.

Miles Archer

(21,187 posts)
9. Kevin McCarthy wore me out when he put on his blue blazer and sporty brown loafers...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:28 AM
Nov 21

...and SCAMPERED out to Mar-a-Lago for his thumbs-up photo op with Trump immediately after January 6.

And you probably remember the "smiling from ear to ear" photo of him holding his coveted Speakers gavel for the first time.

He was chewed up and spit out pretty quickly, but I wonder if Mikey is "worse."

The fake Christian thing and the furious spinning of lies DOES tip the odds in Johson's favor, but McCarthy was just a WORM. They both are, so maybe a coin toss is in order.

harumph

(3,043 posts)
13. Hmmm....
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:41 AM
Nov 21

D. (the diddler) Hastert
J. (dry-drunk) Boehner
P. (lyin') Ryan
M. (porn master general) Johnson

Yeah, real class acts.

BOSSHOG

(44,293 posts)
14. And then there's
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:51 AM
Nov 21

Speaker Nancy Pelosi who tore up trumps State of the Union Speech on live TV. Compare and contrast. Trump wants to kill Dems for telling the truth. Johnson spends his waking hours lying because that’s his job.

sinkingfeeling

(56,920 posts)
10. Apparently, Mikey isn't familiar with the Uniform Code of Military Justice nor the true definition of 'sedition'.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:30 AM
Nov 21

Miles Archer

(21,187 posts)
12. It does not matter HOW MANY OF THEM TOLD, simply and emphatically, that...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:37 AM
Nov 21

...no, the Military is NOT REQUIRED TO FOLLOW ILLEGAL ORDERS.

I KNOW Leavitt, Johnson, all of the rest ALREADY KNOW THIS and DO NOT NEED TO BE TOLD (and they've been told, ANYWAY, REPEATEDLY)...

...and they just pivot back to the "sedition" thing.

So I wonder, if Military members...since Trump sees them as suckers and losers...would receive the same pardons and legal aid as his January 6 MAGAts?

And that's not even the issue...why the HELL should they be put through that ordeal, while he sits back in the White House, stuffing his fat face with Big Macs and planning his "ballroom?"

onenote

(45,905 posts)
15. Hey Mikey - here's a factual statement for you:
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:51 AM
Nov 21

The penalty for sedition is 20 years in prison, not execution.

And here's another factual statement -- you're a spineless piece of garbage.

Traildogbob

(12,296 posts)
16. Fuck that little squirt
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 09:54 AM
Nov 21

Of piss from trumps tiny mushroom.
And send the fucking, to his son’s phone ti enjoy a little porn. God damn that face needs punching.
Not promoting violence, just defining a lying little fake ass Jesus punk, weak, arrogant, piss ant,
prick.

dalton99a

(91,457 posts)
18. "The president knows more about legal definitions than John Roberts
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:03 AM
Nov 21

so the law is what the president says"

Volaris

(11,292 posts)
19. At some point, an admission is going to have to made that
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:21 AM
Nov 21

he LIKES having Trumps balls in his mouth

Miles Archer

(21,187 posts)
21. He's in proximity to power that no other Speaker has experienced
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:33 AM
Nov 21

And, yes, it's corrupt power, and we're all waiting for the Hitler in the Bunker moment, so the reason is that EVEN THOUGH Bush & Cheney "colored outside of the lines" with Iraq (and I'm putting it mildly), Reagan did the same when he sold arms to the Contras, and Nixon had Watergate, they all sort of pale in proximity to Trump's corruption.

It's "I'm going to do whatever the hell I want to do until you stop me," and since John Roberts anointed him as unstoppable, Mikey is right next to that, so yeah. Getting teabagged by Trump probably gives him a rush like that first winter run down the ski slopes in Colorado.

tavernier

(14,139 posts)
20. Give it up, Mikey.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:29 AM
Nov 21

You’ve already won the Dumbest Man on the Planet award. No need to gild the lily.

Swede

(38,039 posts)
23. Mealy-mouthed fucking coward.
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:35 AM
Nov 21

That will be highlighted under his name in the history books.

biocube

(163 posts)
25. Somewhere out there...
Fri Nov 21, 2025, 10:36 AM
Nov 21

Kevin McCarthy is having a lot of schadenfreude watching Mike constantly clean up Trump vomit.

LetMyPeopleVote

(173,457 posts)
29. MaddowBlog-'In the old days, it was death': Trump rages again against Democratic military veterans
Mon Nov 24, 2025, 02:58 PM
Nov 24

On Thursday, the president accused Democrats of “seditious behavior, punishable by DEATH!” On Friday, he kept the offensive going.

As Trump’s offensive against Democratic veterans extends into a second day, a thought:

“I’m not threatening death, but...” is the sort of line presidents should avoid. www.ms.now/rachel-maddo...

Steve Benen (@stevebenen.com) 2025-11-21T19:17:10.865Z


https://www.ms.now/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/old-days-was-death-trump-rages-democratic-military-veterans-rcna245165

Amid widespread concerns that Trump’s hysterics might put the Democratic veterans in danger, the president returned to the subject a day later during a Fox News Radio interview with Brian Kilmeade. It might’ve seemed like an opportunity for the Republican to walk back his rhetoric, but that apparently wasn’t part of his plan.

Trump on threatening members of Congress: “I'm not threatening death, but I think they're in serious trouble. In the old days, it was death.”

The Bulwark (@thebulwark.com) 2025-11-21T17:12:16.100Z


.....For good measure, he added, “But in the old days, if you said a thing like that, that was punishable by death. What they said is, I mean, I don’t know about the modern-day things, because, you know, modern day is a lot softer.”

Trump concluded that the military veterans “broke the law,” though he didn’t explain which law was broken. (The president has a habit of defining “illegal” as “stuff I don’t like.”)

Right off the bat, it’s worth emphasizing that any sentence that begins, “I’m not threatening death, but…” is the sort of line a political leader shouldn’t deliver......

On Capitol Hill, Democratic Rep. Jason Crow of Colorado — a decorated military veteran who served in both Iraq and Afghanistan — is seeking a U.S. Capitol Police investigation into Trump for what he described as “intimidating, threatening, and concerning” threats the president made. Democratic Rep. Chrissy Houlahan of Pennsylvania, an Air Force veteran who also appeared in the video in question, told The New Republic’s Greg Sargent that she made a similar appeal to the Capitol Police.

Whether such an investigation will actually happen remains unclear, though if a regular person sent members of Congress a message accusing them of “SEDITIOUS BEHAVIOR, punishable by DEATH!” it’s a safe bet law enforcement would follow up and knock on the sender’s door.
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