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deminks

(11,445 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 07:35 PM 3 hrs ago

NYC bar says Trump's murder of fishermen is "unlawful summary execution"

It's a pretty big deal that the NYC Bar Association--one of the most prominent and respected bar associations in the country--is accusing the President of ordering the "unlawful summary execution," i.e. murder--of civilians in violation of US and international law. www.nycbar.org/press-releas...

Jameel Jaffer (@jameeljaffer.bsky.social) 2025-10-06T20:40:26.143Z


It's a pretty big deal that the NYC Bar Association--one of the most prominent and respected bar associations in the country--is accusing the President of ordering the "unlawful summary execution," i.e. murder--of civilians in violation of US and international law. https://www.nycbar.org/press-releases/unlawful-attacks-on-venezuelan-vessels/

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NYC bar says Trump's murder of fishermen is "unlawful summary execution" (Original Post) deminks 3 hrs ago OP
He'll commit murder to distract from THE EPSTEIN FILES? BOSSHOG 3 hrs ago #1
He will do ANYTHING evolves 2 hrs ago #7
It's an international incident bucolic_frolic 3 hrs ago #2
Like any bully canetoad 3 hrs ago #3
It's the oil Dave says 3 hrs ago #4
With a side of they are selling soy beans to China? Attilatheblond 1 hr ago #15
Zero Consequences ThoughtCriminal 2 hrs ago #5
Yep. And his cheerleading squad (Fox etc) love it. progressoid 1 hr ago #14
*To be lawful, any use of force commanded by a U.S. President must meet the requirements elleng 2 hrs ago #6
Trump has no business lecturing anyone or any city about CRIME Skittles 2 hrs ago #8
Convicted felon, out on bail after being indicted for more felonies Attilatheblond 1 hr ago #17
Send Trump to the Hague (and whomever was on those chains of command should also be transferred there) ... xocetaceans 1 hr ago #9
I've been fantasizing that DJT goes to The Hague and faces... BadgerMom 1 hr ago #16
The people who do the tracking and targeting . . . Aussie105 1 hr ago #10
Duh! malaise 1 hr ago #11
Not to mention NATO - we'll be kicked out because of this and he KNOWS it FakeNoose 1 hr ago #12
But, but Trump says each of these Venezuelan drug boats are responsible for killing 25,000 Americans. Gimpyknee 1 hr ago #13
Qs! So many Questions! Aussie105 1 hr ago #18
A big deal, indeed The Blue Flower 49 min ago #19
Can Rubio and the others be charged? ecstatic 34 min ago #20
Charged by who? Pam Bondi's DOJ? tritsofme 20 min ago #21

bucolic_frolic

(52,637 posts)
2. It's an international incident
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 07:47 PM
3 hrs ago

Larger nations would consider it an act of war, but Venezuela is no match for the US.

elleng

(140,971 posts)
6. *To be lawful, any use of force commanded by a U.S. President must meet the requirements
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 08:52 PM
2 hrs ago

of the U.S. Constitution and international law. Article I, section 8 of the United States Constitution explicitly reserves to Congress the power to declare war, which over time has meant that Congress must authorize the use of military force. The President serves as Commander-in-Chief, which authorizes him to command the use of force when authorized by Congress and in cases of actual self-defense. Because there has been no such authorization to use force against Venezuela or against ships operating in the area (or any plausible threats justifying self-defense), the President’s military actions against the Venezuelan vessels and their crews cannot be justified as an exercise of the President’s power to use force authorized by Congress.

Nor is it a lawful use of force carried out under the President’s inherent powers as Commander-in-Chief. Under the 1973 War Powers Resolution, the President may introduce U.S. armed forces into hostilities only when specifically authorized by Congress or in the case of “a national emergency created by attack upon the United States, its territories or possessions, or its armed forces.” The recent attacks on Venezuelan vessels and crew were not authorized by Congress and were not in response to any such attack on the United States, its territories, possessions or armed forces. Rather, on the facts as they have been presented by the President and the press, these boats were targeted based on a purported justification that drug trafficking presents a broad threat to national security, not that the United States or U.S. forces were under threat of “attack.”>

Skittles

(167,907 posts)
8. Trump has no business lecturing anyone or any city about CRIME
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:14 PM
2 hrs ago

HE IS A FUCKING CRIMINAL WHO PARDONS CRIMINALS

Attilatheblond

(7,398 posts)
17. Convicted felon, out on bail after being indicted for more felonies
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:04 PM
1 hr ago

Seems his bail should be revoked since he is still actively committing crimes.

xocetaceans

(4,282 posts)
9. Send Trump to the Hague (and whomever was on those chains of command should also be transferred there) ...
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:41 PM
1 hr ago

... for prosecution.

Aussie105

(7,279 posts)
10. The people who do the tracking and targeting . . .
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:43 PM
1 hr ago

then blow a ship out of the water . . .

Have they considered that they may be following illegal commands?

Coast guard not intercepting these boats if they come too close?

Questions need to be asked and answered!
Where is the proof that justifies total destruction?

Imagine if China or North Korea did this to boats that came too close or were suspect?

FakeNoose

(38,877 posts)
12. Not to mention NATO - we'll be kicked out because of this and he KNOWS it
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:53 PM
1 hr ago

I wouldn't be surprised to find out - after he's cold and dead - that Pootie told him to do it.

Gimpyknee

(816 posts)
13. But, but Trump says each of these Venezuelan drug boats are responsible for killing 25,000 Americans.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:56 PM
1 hr ago

Not only is he a rapist and felon, he’s a murderer too.

Aussie105

(7,279 posts)
18. Qs! So many Questions!
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:12 PM
1 hr ago

How do we know they are Venezuelan?

How do we know they are drug boats?

Were they in Intenational waters or US waters?

Why doesn't the coast guard do what they used to do - intercept once in US waters, seize drugs if any, imprison or repatriate the people on board?

ecstatic

(34,955 posts)
20. Can Rubio and the others be charged?
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:47 PM
34 min ago

Nothing will get through to tRump's dumbass but what about his accomplices? Do we have chargeable crimes yet?

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