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marmar

(78,897 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:49 AM 13 hrs ago

Christian group 'deceived' supreme court about LGBTQ+ research, cited scholars say


(Guardian UK) On Tuesday, a Christian legal group will urge the US supreme court to overturn a ban on anti-LGBTQ+ “conversion therapy” in a case that could erode protections for transgender and queer youth across the country.

Lawyers from Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), which has opposed abortion and LGBTQ+ rights in high-profile litigation, are representing a woman challenging a 2019 Colorado law that prohibited conversion practices for youth under age 18. The ban applies to licensed clinicians who seek to change a patient’s sexual orientation or gender identity, tactics medical groups have discredited as harmful and ineffective.

ADF’s petition in the case, Chiles v Salazar, cited several scholars to support its argument that conversion practices should once again be permitted. Two of those experts, however, told the Guardian that ADF had “profoundly” misrepresented their research, which discussed the “psychological damage” of conversion therapy.

The family of a deceased researcher, also quoted by ADF, said they were “deeply disturbed” by the “distortion” of his work.

“This is the most upsetting use of my scholarship that has ever happened in my career,” said Clifford Rosky, a University of Utah professor of constitutional law and civil rights. He has worked to ban conversion therapy, but ADF nonetheless cited his research on sexual orientation and LGBTQ+ rights, co-authored with renowned sexuality researcher Dr Lisa Diamond, to bolster its petition. “It’s upsetting because this is lethally dangerous to LGBTQ+ kids,” he said. ................(more)

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/oct/06/alliance-defending-freedom-supreme-court-conversion-therapy




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Christian group 'deceived' supreme court about LGBTQ+ research, cited scholars say (Original Post) marmar 13 hrs ago OP
Or condensed version: "Christ Deceived Court", scholars say. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 13 hrs ago #1
Jesus had nothing to do with this. intheflow 12 hrs ago #4
Please show us in the Bible mountain grammy 12 hrs ago #8
Christ is a theological concept to me. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 11 hrs ago #10
Then I may have misunderstood your reply mountain grammy 6 hrs ago #13
ADF is a hate group. Nevilledog 13 hrs ago #2
Have you noticed all these fascist ALWAYS Conjuay 12 hrs ago #3
Just like the Nazis used Socialist in their name. Gaslighting, propaganda, and disinformation for everything. Nevilledog 12 hrs ago #6
Thou shalt not bear false witness. Clouds Passing 12 hrs ago #5
My experience is... -misanthroptimist 12 hrs ago #7
Christians lied. Duh. SamKnause 12 hrs ago #9
The Supreme Court doesn't even believe their lies. They are just playing along to justify their decision. Midnight Writer 10 hrs ago #11
These Christian hypocrites, liars, and grifters made my young adulthood a living hell. hunter 10 hrs ago #12

intheflow

(29,785 posts)
4. Jesus had nothing to do with this.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:32 AM
12 hrs ago

He didn't say shit about GLBT+ people. His followers have made all this shit up.

mountain grammy

(28,276 posts)
8. Please show us in the Bible
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:47 AM
12 hrs ago

where Jesus talked about hating gays or anyone different and "changing" them.

Thank you.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,219 posts)
10. Christ is a theological concept to me.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 12:20 PM
11 hrs ago

So, when I say Christ deceived the court, I'm not talking about a person. It's fine if you think Christ is a man, or a god.

Conjuay

(2,724 posts)
3. Have you noticed all these fascist ALWAYS
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:25 AM
12 hrs ago

Have "freedom", or "liberty" in their organization's title?

And they are the most repressive bunch of A-holes around.

Nevilledog

(54,578 posts)
6. Just like the Nazis used Socialist in their name. Gaslighting, propaganda, and disinformation for everything.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:34 AM
12 hrs ago

-misanthroptimist

(1,457 posts)
7. My experience is...
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:35 AM
12 hrs ago

...that those loudly claiming to be Christians are the worst examples of Christianity. Generally, they only tell the truth when they can't think of a lie, or when the truth actually benefits them.

Terrible people.

Midnight Writer

(24,836 posts)
11. The Supreme Court doesn't even believe their lies. They are just playing along to justify their decision.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 12:28 PM
10 hrs ago

A decision already made before any "evidence" was heard.

This is all theater, window-dressing to make it look like the outcome was not pre-determined before the Court even took the case.

Justices are actually asking for controversial challenges to established precedent so they can overturn anything that doesn't cater to their billionaire Federalist Society sponsors.

hunter

(40,010 posts)
12. These Christian hypocrites, liars, and grifters made my young adulthood a living hell.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 01:19 PM
10 hrs ago

Friends committing suicide, friends dying of AIDS rejected by their families, drug addictions, finding myself in a completely untenable relationship (she was trying to prove to her family and herself she was not gay)...

One of my high school classmates died of an ectopic pregnancy because she couldn't tell her parents that she and her boyfriend were having sex. Her boyfriend went into a death spiral of drug and alcohol abuse after that. Thanks to their "purity" celebrating Christian upbringing they'd both been totally naive about sex and birth control.

I used to try to excuse this sort of Christianity, if not forgive it, as people who thought they were trying to do the right thing, the most dangerous sort of naivety. But I can't do that anymore. This sort of Christian love that kills and traumatizes so many people grows from hatred of the "other," fear, and deceit.

The father of the woman my girlfriend eventually married was a big man in his church, and made a show of it. In reality he was a vile narcissist, his only concern that his wife and daughter might make him look bad. When he suddenly passed away I don't think anyone was sad except for the loss of money he gave to his horrible church and its hate spewing pastor.

I think anyone practicing "conversion therapy" ought to face a mandatory ten year prison sentence, twenty years if they do it for money.





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