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Wiz Imp

(7,628 posts)
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 12:56 AM 22 hrs ago

Is Trump really close to dying?

Keith Olbermann speculates in his latest podcast that he may well be.
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/trump-suddenly-speculating-about-a-future-without/id1633301179?i=1000730345454
Two big revelations:

From anybody else it would be trivia. From Trump this is startling. Buried in an ordinary narcissistic flight: "It'll be very unfair in the future when they (Republicans) don't have Trump to fight for them."


After being MIA for five days – no live public viewing of him, just one video that according to White House time stamps took more than two hours to produce even though it only required him to try to speak for a minute-ten… he EMERGED with what was, even for him, such an utterly bizarre and especially vulnerable admission.


I don't want to get hopes up, but it actually sounds like it might really be serious. Add in some of the comments he apparently made before the Navy and it sounds like his most unhinged speech yet. I tried listening to some of the snippets from that speech from Meidas Touch, but it was too painful. But Olbermann's characterization of it make it sound like it was deranged (You really need to hear it on the podcast):
And THEN Trump went in front of the Navy and said he warned about Osama Bin Laden last year, and told Pete Hegseth about it a year before 9/11, and claimed he was president in 2016 but they fixed the 2016 election, but they ran it again and he "got 250."

What. In The Hell. Is Wrong. With Trump’s Health?
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Is Trump really close to dying? (Original Post) Wiz Imp 22 hrs ago OP
He got 250 what? electoral votes? That would have him bankrupting casinos again. Captain Zero 22 hrs ago #1
What he was trying to say is that by winning in 2024, he "got" to be president for the nation's 250th anniversary onenote 13 hrs ago #36
I don't think he has been diagnosed with a specific disease JI7 22 hrs ago #2
I've seen some suggestions that he'd undergoing chemo. emulatorloo 12 hrs ago #40
What a great Xmas gift that would be! Bayard 22 hrs ago #3
My son keeps telling me Vance will be worse Mtnmama 19 hrs ago #13
Vance wouldn't have made it past the first few weeks of the primary. W_HAMILTON 19 hrs ago #16
Interesting article about this Mtnmama 18 hrs ago #17
vladimir futon is already running things, along with baby goebbels. the niyad 18 hrs ago #18
He might not be worse, but I can promise you this: Morbius 16 hrs ago #20
He's not as stupid as Trump but just as evil. However, no way will he have have the hold on the cult like Trump does. Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #23
I don't think so. JD doesn't have a cult. Walleye 13 hrs ago #29
Vance would be worse. MiKenMi33 12 hrs ago #39
They will never give up power--they can't if they want to stay out of jail LR3 13 hrs ago #24
Could be a tumor and they know when it will get to be a certain size based on its growth rate Blues Heron 22 hrs ago #4
Meanwhile his daily motto is "Death to America!" dalton99a 22 hrs ago #5
"to fight for them." - he never fights for anybody else but himself. UTUSN 21 hrs ago #6
I certainly hope Donald is going to be OK. (No, not Trump...The duck) chouchou 21 hrs ago #7
He's healthy enough to play golf BaronChocula 20 hrs ago #8
Got any footage for that? NJCher 19 hrs ago #10
Just anecdotal crap BaronChocula 19 hrs ago #12
It requires very little physical exertion for Trump to play Golf. Wiz Imp 14 hrs ago #21
If he was so ill BaronChocula 9 hrs ago #43
A minute and 10" segment took 2 hours? NJCher 20 hrs ago #9
Not close enough. Lmk when the death rattle starts. littlemissmartypants 19 hrs ago #11
He's not dying. LudwigPastorius 19 hrs ago #14
Please NJCher 19 hrs ago #15
He's clearly acknowledging his own mortality for the first time and it scares him Wiz Imp 13 hrs ago #25
A year before 9/11 kegsbreath was a 19 year old drunk. niyad 18 hrs ago #19
I'll believe it when I see it. Tommy Carcetti 14 hrs ago #22
He looks youthful and in perfect health! Emile 13 hrs ago #26
3 weeks on, 1 week invisible bucolic_frolic 13 hrs ago #27
Yup, and lather, rinse, repeat. GoCubsGo 13 hrs ago #31
Most people on their death be don't golf every weekend Jersey Devil 13 hrs ago #28
It's not like he's walking the golf course. Emile 13 hrs ago #35
donnie clearly has many issues, but this is just pointless by Keith. Someone donnie's age can rapidly decline and themaguffin 13 hrs ago #30
I thought that years ago about Cheney after his 2nd heart transplant. And here we are. Autumn 13 hrs ago #32
I hope not Traildogbob 13 hrs ago #33
Trump is woke to the fact that he is a spent shell casing. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 13 hrs ago #34
Did anyone write anything on that casing? PCIntern 13 hrs ago #37
Maybe Rebl2 12 hrs ago #38
More oddities from Trump sure to fuel additional speculation Wiz Imp 12 hrs ago #41
Ridiculously bad for Tapper and CNN NCDem47 12 hrs ago #42

Captain Zero

(8,471 posts)
1. He got 250 what? electoral votes? That would have him bankrupting casinos again.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 01:01 AM
22 hrs ago

who knows?

onenote

(45,703 posts)
36. What he was trying to say is that by winning in 2024, he "got" to be president for the nation's 250th anniversary
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:28 AM
13 hrs ago

Here's the quote in which he refers, in his typically confusing style, to getting 250, the World Cup and the Olympics by having won in 2024:

From the American Revolution until today, the story of the U.S. Navy is the tale of loyalty, sacrifice, and commitment stretching back 250 years. So, we’re celebrating 250. I almost thought I wouldn’t get to do that because I was President in 2016, and then they rigged the election on me. And then we caught him, didn’t we? We caught him. But, you know, we had to run it again. I ran it again, and I got 250, and I got the World Cup, and I got the Olympics. Can you believe all of it?

JI7

(92,733 posts)
2. I don't think he has been diagnosed with a specific disease
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 01:02 AM
22 hrs ago

where they told him he has x amount of time left.

But it's more of his age and health being something where it wouldn't be a unusual for him to die any moment.

emulatorloo

(46,131 posts)
40. I've seen some suggestions that he'd undergoing chemo.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:47 AM
12 hrs ago

Having a treatment one day, vanishing for several days to deal with the worst of chemo side effects until they’ve had a chance to subside. Might explain the bruises on his hands.

I have no idea what is going on but I do believe he is ill and the White House is hiding it.

Mtnmama

(109 posts)
13. My son keeps telling me Vance will be worse
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 03:50 AM
19 hrs ago

Anyone else feel that way? As awful as trump is, I don't see how.

W_HAMILTON

(9,588 posts)
16. Vance wouldn't have made it past the first few weeks of the primary.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:12 AM
19 hrs ago

Zero chance that the low information voters that turned out for Trump will turn out for Vance.

niyad

(127,717 posts)
18. vladimir futon is already running things, along with baby goebbels. the
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 04:48 AM
18 hrs ago

orange creature is the bright shiny thing keeping people distracted. The irang creature is too lazy and too f'n stupid to actually work.

Wiz Imp

(7,628 posts)
23. He's not as stupid as Trump but just as evil. However, no way will he have have the hold on the cult like Trump does.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:34 AM
13 hrs ago

MiKenMi33

(230 posts)
39. Vance would be worse.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:37 AM
12 hrs ago

But Vance doesn’t have any adoring fans or the cult following that the orange one has.

LR3

(58 posts)
24. They will never give up power--they can't if they want to stay out of jail
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:36 AM
13 hrs ago

The U.S. will transition from its current fascism built around the leader to a more vanilla authoritarianism. Sure, Vance won't have the cult following, but he'll be ruthless with the levers of power.

Xi doesn't need to be loved to be an effective authoritarian, he just needs to control everything, and it will be the same with Vance. He's got the media (Musk, Ellison, Murdock), the money (Musk, Andreessen, techbros), and the surveillance state (Thiel).

I'm not sure the orange asshole dying changes the outcome.

Blues Heron

(7,697 posts)
4. Could be a tumor and they know when it will get to be a certain size based on its growth rate
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 01:12 AM
22 hrs ago

BaronChocula

(3,477 posts)
8. He's healthy enough to play golf
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 03:23 AM
20 hrs ago

Just sayin'. We need to account for that. But whatever may be going on, may it be extremely painful for long periods of time.

NJCher

(41,636 posts)
10. Got any footage for that?
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 03:34 AM
19 hrs ago

The golf footage has been as contrived as his speaking segments. We should take a look at it and see if it is edited , too.

BaronChocula

(3,477 posts)
12. Just anecdotal crap
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 03:40 AM
19 hrs ago

-Dems blasting him for golfing during the shutdown
-Golf friends dishing about his complaints of how unfair everything and not letting go of the UN fiasco

But good point. If these guys were actually smart I'd dismiss all that as a ruse to make it look like he's keeping somewhat active.

Wiz Imp

(7,628 posts)
21. It requires very little physical exertion for Trump to play Golf.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:31 AM
14 hrs ago

He doesn't walk at all. He pulls the golf cart right up next to the ball, slides out of the cart, hits the ball, then slides back in. He even pulls the golf cart onto the green (which would get him kicked out of any golf course but his own). I mean, when playing golf, he spends very little time on his feet, and even less time actually moving. His playing golf doesn't really prove anything as far as his health is concerned.

BaronChocula

(3,477 posts)
43. If he was so ill
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 02:28 PM
9 hrs ago

that he was being kept out of the public eye, I don't think he'd be playing golf. Even trump-style golf. I definitely don't think he'd be playing with those blabbermouth friends who then report back on what he bitched about all day. Again, it could be a setup and they're all in - "Leak to the press some crap that you'd expect me to say, but whatever you do, don't tell anyone the right side of my face is drooping, I'm drooling, my incontinence is loud and constant, I've got scabs on my neck or anything else obvious that I'm trying to hide from the public."

I definitely don't think he's healthy or fit. I would just love him to be even more unhealthy and more unfit so he ain't playing golf. Just my opinion.

LudwigPastorius

(13,530 posts)
14. He's not dying.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 03:51 AM
19 hrs ago

In fact (to paraphrase Hunter Thompson), I won’t believe it when he is finally dies until I can gnaw on his skull with my very own teeth.

Wiz Imp

(7,628 posts)
25. He's clearly acknowledging his own mortality for the first time and it scares him
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:38 AM
13 hrs ago

I don't know exactly what's going on, but I believe he is in far worse physical condition than he is letting on.

Jersey Devil

(10,501 posts)
28. Most people on their death be don't golf every weekend
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:40 AM
13 hrs ago

Keith tends to get a bit carried away at times.

themaguffin

(4,718 posts)
30. donnie clearly has many issues, but this is just pointless by Keith. Someone donnie's age can rapidly decline and
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 09:56 AM
13 hrs ago

many of us have seen elderly member of our families decline. We just have no idea with trump.

Autumn

(48,425 posts)
32. I thought that years ago about Cheney after his 2nd heart transplant. And here we are.
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:07 AM
13 hrs ago

People die while evil people get world class healthcare that keeps them alive.

Traildogbob

(11,946 posts)
33. I hope not
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:10 AM
13 hrs ago

I want his death to be long, drawn out, debilitating painful, humiliating, for him and for his cabinet that wipe his fat ass, clean his golden bed pan and push cheese berders into his feeding tubes and he has to do it all in Mardi Lardo, NOT OUR HOUSE.
With masses of poor ass illiterate MAGA’s fighting to get in for a kiss and hug. And bang cow bells 24/7 to the sound of YMYA blaring from big ass trucks bellowing black smoke to keep batteries working for the stereo. The people he would never allow near him because they are poor.
And it all starts like this week.

Wiz Imp

(7,628 posts)
41. More oddities from Trump sure to fuel additional speculation
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 10:48 AM
12 hrs ago
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-texts-cnn-host-renew-160955789.html
Trump’s Texts to CNN Host Renew Health Speculation
Donald Trump has sparked a fresh frenzy about his health after giving a very unorthodox CNN interview.

The 79-year-old president gave an exclusive interview to State of the Union host Jake Tapper Sunday, but bizar
rely texted his answers in at an unspecified time before the show rather than speaking in person or calling.

In his interview, graphics of Trump’s texts were shown on screen.

On X, however, CNN viewers speculated that Trump turned to his keyboard to avoid being seen—if it was even him sending the texts at all.


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NCDem47

(3,105 posts)
42. Ridiculously bad for Tapper and CNN
Mon Oct 6, 2025, 11:20 AM
12 hrs ago

TEXTS(?!?!) as an interview? Just no real journalistic standards.

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