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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJoy Reid "Why are you all so angry??"
Why are yall so angry?
You have the White House,
you have both houses of congress,
you have the Supreme Court that's completely obedient to the President, they give him unlimited power,
they are willing to say that he can take Seal Team Six and kill anybody he wants, and they are willing to affirm that,
they are willing to say that ICE can racially profile anybody they want,
the US Supreme Court has said you can racially profile Latinos based on their accent or the way they look,
you guys have everything you want,
legal racial profiling,
you've ended DEI,
you ended Affirmative Action,
you get all the best jobs even if you are not qualified,
you can be a Fox Weekend Host and be the Defense Department's Secretary of Defense,
you can be Kash Patel a Podcaster who wants to go to Valhalla and run the FBI as long as you are conservative,
you have everything, why are y'all angry?
WTF are you angry about?
You banned all of our books,
you have banned Black History,
banned the 1619 Project,
you don't have to compete with women for jobs,
you have chased them out of the military,
you have chased them out of the Department of Defense,
you have gotten rid of all the Black History in museums,
museums are terrified,
the people who work for the Federal Government are afraid to say the word Black,
you guys have cancelled Black Scholarships,
you are damn near ready to get rid of HBCUs,
Donald Trump just recently said they are not going to fund any minority serving institutions, yall have gotten rid of that,
you have gotten rid of scholarships for Black kids to go to college, what more do you want?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Da18u8fog24

Irish_Dem
(75,728 posts)No amount of money, power, death, destruction will make them happy.
kerouac2
(1,311 posts)Anyone who isn't one of them is a cockroach who needs to be exterminated. This includes the people who think they are with them, but who will also be gotten rid of when their usefulness ends. Those folks will just be the last to go.
Remember, it's that hate and anger that binds them. It keeps them going. It sells their hats and crap.
Uncle Joe
(63,305 posts)When the only tools that you have in your toolbox are anger and fear, that's all you can use.
Thanks for the thread Swede.
John Coktosten
(39 posts)Miss her show
malaise
(289,721 posts)Rec
chouchou
(2,413 posts)The elder people could do the baby sitters and pick up trash and Walmart likes them old people to greet the folks coming in.
dalton99a
(90,523 posts)Prof. Toru Tanaka
(2,814 posts)as explained in an earlier post.
sop
(16,299 posts)Joinfortmill
(19,063 posts)Keepthesoulalive
(1,870 posts)Because the people of America have decided that the cruelty this administration is showing its citizens is okay. Black folks are tired of fighting for this country to live up to its ideals and values while white folks believe the nonsense Fox News and their evangelical preachers tell them. The elections should not be close but they vote for republicans who set the entire country back because of their racism. Oh yeah not all white people.
Skittles
(167,870 posts)I can only imagine what it feels like for POC, LGBTQ, immigrants, etc.
still, you are correct, it is important we NEVER give up fighting these fascist fucks........NEVER
DallasNE
(7,878 posts)That is the opposite of defeatism, as I read it. Also, now that the rule of law has broken down, how do you fix it? That is a valid question. You don't blame the scorekeeper. You start brainstorming.
RockRaven
(18,107 posts)get over the fact that a black man was elected POTUS. Their brains/psyches were permanently changed by that, and there is no going back for them.
No depraved or psycho behavior done in their name will ever be enough to appease them, their appetite for performative gestures of hurting others is insatiable no matter what it costs them personally (note that they will complain about any collateral damage to themselves, yet that won't cause a reverse on their desire to see others hurt).
There is an emptiness inside of them which can never be filled -- all because other Americans picked a black guy to lead/hold power. And most of them are in denial about what is driving them.
malaise
(289,721 posts)Fear - what if those other races and ethnicities do to us what we did and continue to do to them?
Joinfortmill
(19,063 posts)Bayard
(27,233 posts)And probably most of his admin.
Beartracks
(14,133 posts)Blue Owl
(57,477 posts)littlemissmartypants
(29,914 posts)Replace: shorts/
With: watch?v=
Diamond_Dog
(38,645 posts)How they have caused the preventable death and untold suffering of many many women and young girls by outlawing basic reproductive health care for women.
Joinfortmill
(19,063 posts)AverageOldGuy
(3,033 posts)Doc Holliday:
BattleRow
(1,849 posts)Gaugamela
(3,024 posts)inflict the more they need to up the ante to feel the buzz. Its a vicious cycle of destruction leading to annihilation. They lie awake at night praying for the rapture because they hate their lives and they hate the world.
They are Christian nihilists rebelling against their failed god. I have no doubt they secretly pray for their orange anti-savior to hit the N button.
dedl67
(99 posts)The election of Barack Obama was one more blow to that self-esteem. They hate every symbol of the loss of status that they formerly derived from the mere fact that they were born white and male, and every symbol that reminds them that the role of white males, especially white Christian males, in American history has been anything less than glorious. Any success that women or blacks or immigrants achieves reminds them of their own mediocrity. So, all those things must be crushed.
llmart
(16,919 posts)This country did them no favors by instilling in them the notion that somehow they were superior just because they were white males by birth.
dedl67
(99 posts)Hekate
(99,685 posts)iemanja
(56,841 posts)They aren't interested in policies to improve America. Instead, they want to "own the libs" and make everyone as miserable as they are.
BattleRow
(1,849 posts)Is it possible to love their hate even more than they love their (or our) money?
niyad
(127,696 posts)ShazzieB
(21,701 posts)HE will not be happy until and unless of the following are completely eliminated from this country:
● all LGBTQIA+ people
● all non white people (or most; he might keep a few for doing things like garbarge collection and other manual labor)
● all feminists (he'd eliminate all women if he could, but he knows some are still needed for sex, procreation, and housekeeping)
● all Democrats, liberals, progressives, and "woke" people of every stripe
● all those whose first language is anything other than English
● all those who don't meet dear leader's standards of physical perfection, including fat people, short people, women whose boobs aren't big enough to suit Dear Leader, anyone with any kind of visible disability or imperfection (what constitutes either of these to be defined by him)
● all those who are highly educated in any field he doesn't approve of or at any institution he doesn't approve of
● all those who are intellectually curious and/or prone to forming opinions of their own that don't perfectly match his
● the list goes on and on, but I'm sure you get the idea
The MAGA are angry at most of of the people on this list because Dear Leader has convinced them that "those people" have it in for them and are the cause of all their problems. This makes them angry; and he stokes that anger every chance he gets, over and over again, which makes them even angrier.
Their level of commitment varies, from those who are already getting tired of him to those who will always worship him unquestioningly as long as he keeps assuring them that he is "fighting for them." I suspect that the latter group has gotten smaller since his second term started and will continue to shrink as long as he keeps fucking up spectacularly, which he is bound to do. Time will tell.
boston bean
(36,814 posts)fuck em all to hell and back.
Collimator
(1,993 posts)I touched on this theory on another thread about why are MAGA people so angry.
Like wasps at the end of the summer, some glimmer of a signal is getting through to their brains that their time is ending, so they become more aggressive.
Despite their current power position in the United States, the world IS moving on past them. Women are being elected to important political positions in other countries and they are contributing to their economies and making scientific discoveries.
Formerly colonized people of color are finding their voices and are advocating for the preservation of their cultures and their seats at the table within mainstream power structures.
Study after study shows younger generations are more accepting of LBGTQ + identities and perspectives.
Despite all the setbacks that we may experience here and read about in other parts of the world, the shift towards liberal values is happening. As our current regime focuses on pulling us back socially, they can't keep one hand on the hammer of oppression and have the other hand free to stoke the fires of innovation and economic advancement. It just doesn't work that way.
You want to be the best? You want to lead the world in technological innovation? You need educated people; and educated people question the status quo. That's how innovation is fostered in technology and social movements.
You also can't suppress the capabilities of large portions of the population without sacrificing the potential contributions that their members can make towards the goal of advancement in any field. That's a counterproductive strategy and it will grind a nation's movement forward-- in any sphere-- to a halt.
Would America have landed on the moon if Katherine Johnson had been told to shut up about math and stick to scrubbing floors as she was "supposed" to be doing? No matter how many other people were involved in the Space Program, no matter how much opposition there may have been to accepting her contributions and no matter how long those contributions went unacknowledged, she WAS there and that is why it happened.
You take the contributions of all the non-White Males out of the equation and many of humanity's achievements never come to pass.
So, the old White Male Power Structure and the concept of unlimited Capitalism is dying because it simply cannot be sustained. Most of them sense it on an inchoate level; a few are intelligent enough to recognize it. Their response will be to fight until the bitter end, clinging to their comforts and privileges and taking down as many of their perceived enemies with them as they can.
It may, indeed, get even uglier than it already is. But when their end comes amid the destruction that they themselves have wrought, something will emerge. Like a blade of grass pushing through concrete, those that inherit a changed world will have to embrace flexibility and tolerance. Because Soft is stronger than Hard.
"Water is fluid, soft, and yielding. But water will wear away rock, which is rigid and cannot yield. As a rule, whatever is fluid, soft, and yielding will overcome whatever is rigid and hard. This is another paradox: what is soft is strong." ― Lao Tzu
They are angry. Their anger is a jagged rock wielded as a weapon of destruction. But water is needed for creation and the continuance of life. And that, they cannot wield, because water is compassion and empathy. Water is fluid thinking and tolerance. Water is the acceptance of change.
The whole Universe is founded on change and change is what they hate. So, you bet that they're angry. But anger won't stop the Universe from changing around them. Nothing ever will.
love_katz
(3,171 posts)There's an old saying that the only things we can count on are death and taxes. From my perspective, the one thing we can count on is CHANGE.
Liberals and progressives are better able to cope with change because we're flexible, not stiff and rigid.
Wednesdays
(20,883 posts)calimary
(87,972 posts)Its definitely a keeper!
"Water is fluid, soft, and yielding. But water will wear away rock, which is rigid and cannot yield. As a rule, whatever is fluid, soft, and yielding will overcome whatever is rigid and hard. This is another paradox: what is soft is strong."
― Lao Tzu
3catwoman3
(27,839 posts)What a miserable existence that must be.
enid602
(9,549 posts)Joys Mom worked most of her carreer at Bonwit Teller, the exclusive Department Store in New York City. She had to stay in the back room, far from the exclusive white patrons on the sales floor. She ultimately was able to sell to white ladies.
Thank you, Joys Mom.
Ultimately, Bonwit was torn down to make room for Trump Tower.
Evolve Dammit
(21,265 posts)Bengus81
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that Ike had received in 1947 to give to King Charles for some reason. The Director at the Museum told the Trump Admin no we can't do that and since he's a Government worker he was fucking fired after nearly 30 years of service.
I want that FUCKER to drop dead tonight! Or better yet have a massive stroke.
LittleGirl
(8,828 posts)She's right, why so angry?
CanonRay
(15,640 posts)mdbl
(7,483 posts)brer cat
(27,149 posts)Takket
(23,270 posts)Slavery
Queso Delicioso
(121 posts)Like "why have they gotten away with doing this" and "when are we going to make them pay" and maybe "what are we going to do to make them never dare to try it again" but maybe that's just me.
progressoid
(52,054 posts)They know that as time goes on, they can't stop the people with funny sounding names and the wrong skin color from gaining power.
They know the myth of the American exceptionalism is bullshit.
And some even know deep down that they screwed up by supporting a grifting millionaire.