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ancianita

(42,096 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:37 PM 8 hrs ago

Chicago And The End Of American Liberty.

“… Why are we accommodating this?

The calculus is simple and ancient: it’s not happening to us. The targets are gang members and their unfortunate neighbors — mostly Black and brown people in neighborhoods most Americans will never visit. This violation doesn’t affect me directly, and resisting it would require effort, risk, discomfort. Easier to believe that people detained probably did something to deserve scrutiny, even if we can’t quite articulate what.

Because it’s sufferable.
This is the logic that makes tyranny possible.


Every authoritarian regime in history has relied on this same human tendency to accommodate violations of other people’s rights while trusting that “it won’t happen to me.”
Every descent into authoritarianism proceeds through exactly this pattern: define an enemy (gangs, immigrants, terrorists, dissidents), suspend normal legal protections in the name of fighting that enemy, expand the definition of who counts as the enemy, repeat.

The architecture is always the same. Only the specific targets change.

And here’s what people still don’t understand:
once you normalize the suspension of constitutional rights for one group, you’ve eliminated the principle that protects everyone.

Once you accept that the government can detain entire buildings full of people without individualized probable cause because “bad people might be there,”
you’ve conceded the logic that makes your own rights contingent on someone else’s judgment about whether your neighborhood, your building, your home might harbor someone the government wants.

The Fourth Amendment doesn’t protect gang members.
It protects Pertissue Fisher, standing in her nightgown with a gun in her face. It protects Alicia Brooks, grabbed at her own door. It protects those children, zip-tied and terrified.

It protects you.

Or it did. Until we collectively decided that protecting those people was too much trouble.

President Trump has suggested that Chicago should be used as a “training ground” for the military...
Not that the military should train in Chicago — that Chicago itself, an American city, should serve as practice for what? Urban warfare? Population control? The exercise of federal force against civilian populations?

This isn’t hyperbole. These are his words. And the response from most Americans has been… silence. Accommodation. The sufferable evil...

Because we are falling now.

Not metaphorically. Actually.
The constitutional order that prevents arbitrary government power is collapsing in real time, and most Americans are scrolling past the evidence on their way to something more entertaining.

The wire is breaking. The center cannot hold. And the ground approaches.

You can feel it if you’re paying attention — that sickening acceleration,
that sense that things are moving faster than our capacity to process them, that each new violation makes the previous one seem almost quaint in retrospect. Warrantless mass detentions. Children zip-tied. American citizens sorted by race. American cities as military training grounds.

Each accommodation makes the next violation easier.
Each shrug gives permission for something worse. Each time we decide that this particular evil is sufferable, we lower the threshold for what becomes acceptable.

This is how it happens. Not all at once, but through a series of choices
—individual and collective— to look away, to accommodate, to suffer what seems survivable rather than risk the unknown consequences of resistance...

The ground approaches. You can choose to notice.
You can choose to care. You can choose to say “this far and no further.”

Or you can scroll past. You can shrug.
You can decide this particular evil is still sufferable, that someone else will hold the center, that surely it won’t come to your door.

All experience hath shewn which choice most people make.

But you are not most people. You are you — conscious, capable, still free enough to choose what you will accommodate and what you will resist.

Federal agents detained American citizens without individualized probable cause this week. They handcuffed children. They sorted people by race. They treated an American city like occupied territory.

This happened.

The question isn’t whether it happened.
The question is whether you’ll decide it’s sufferable.

Because that choice — your choice, made right now, in this moment — is what determines whether we land or crash.

The ground approaches.
Two plus two equals four. There are twenty-four hours in a day.

And the Fourth Amendment means nothing if we collectively decide it’s too much trouble to defend.

Hold the center. Or watch it collapse.
There is no third option.”

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Chicago And The End Of American Liberty. (Original Post) ancianita 8 hrs ago OP
Chicagoans aren't exactly rolling over. Morbius 8 hrs ago #1
Media yawns while JB collects evidence. ancianita 8 hrs ago #3
no. we're not. mopinko 8 hrs ago #5
Thanks. Excellent points. We desperately need to end the coup now. Bread and Circuses 8 hrs ago #2
2,000 cities are getting ready for NO KINGS Day. Let's do this. ancianita 8 hrs ago #4
I was and still am a low level volunteer for these events. We need 30 million! Because ... Bread and Circuses 8 hrs ago #6
Yes. But doing that takes some doing. Indivisibles' Ezra Levin and Leah Greenberg plan well but need a lot of help. ancianita 8 hrs ago #7
I was out handing out flyers for NO KINGs 2 and... Bread and Circuses 7 hrs ago #10
If they don't take one, ask them what they watch on tv regularly. Then you'll know why they've checked out or ancianita 7 hrs ago #12
Yes! I am very experienced in public speaking and talking with difficult people. Bread and Circuses 6 hrs ago #17
I admire your work! Thank you for sharing it! ancianita 6 hrs ago #19
I'm one of many , many ordinary people ! Just Like everyone in the DU Community! Bread and Circuses 5 hrs ago #20
30 mil would be wonderful. soldierant 6 hrs ago #15
I want an audio of either patrick stewart or lawrence fishburn reading this. Volaris 7 hrs ago #8
My personal favorite would be James Earl Jones. ancianita 7 hrs ago #9
Yeah, but unless you wanna AI that shit and probably pay The Mouse a fistful of cash, that aint happening. Volaris 6 hrs ago #18
Very nicely done angrychair 7 hrs ago #11
Thanks, less angrychair! ancianita 7 hrs ago #13
DURec leftstreet 7 hrs ago #14
K&R orangecrush 6 hrs ago #16

Morbius

(692 posts)
1. Chicagoans aren't exactly rolling over.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:43 PM
8 hrs ago

This city is on the front line of the war on democracy, and we know it.

ancianita

(42,096 posts)
3. Media yawns while JB collects evidence.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:52 PM
8 hrs ago

Yes, Chicago is on the front line. That we know that is arguable.



mopinko

(73,020 posts)
5. no. we're not.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:56 PM
8 hrs ago

there r ppl here protesting daily. we’re driving them nuts in broadview. in my ward, on the northside, we have 2 weekly visibility actions that r growing all the time.
i’ve lost count of the downtown protests. they practically organize themselves.
a lot of our electeds have been on the front lines, too.
when ice shows up, it flashes through social media. we’re recording everything.

we’re not even close to rolling over.

Bread and Circuses

(1,223 posts)
2. Thanks. Excellent points. We desperately need to end the coup now.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:49 PM
8 hrs ago

I fear that the Center has collapsed. Republican voters opened the door to the White House to the Fascists.

After all we have seen and watched, I don’t see anyway to stop the destruction of the country,
There is no effective opposition . Yes, there are many successful lawsuits and governors who are fighting hard. I applaud their dedication . I will continue my work to get out the vote. I volunteer, write postcards, call my representatives, attend protests, etc. I will never give - up and the DU community is brave and strong!

But, we need a nationwide turnout of millions to press Republican politicians in Congress to honor their oaths.
If that doesn’t work, it will be time to go to the streets and stay there.

I support peaceful resistance, Im not sure that the fascists care. At some point, we know where this heading.
Mass arrests, lockdowns and Tyranny .

Bread and Circuses

(1,223 posts)
6. I was and still am a low level volunteer for these events. We need 30 million! Because ...
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:01 PM
8 hrs ago

Because the media under-reports the numbers . And, we need to be out in the streets more often.

ancianita

(42,096 posts)
7. Yes. But doing that takes some doing. Indivisibles' Ezra Levin and Leah Greenberg plan well but need a lot of help.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:03 PM
8 hrs ago

Bread and Circuses

(1,223 posts)
10. I was out handing out flyers for NO KINGs 2 and...
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:19 PM
7 hrs ago

Many people had no idea about it and others weren’t interested.

I live in a middle class area, many people have just checked - out.

I think this requires a well-known person(s) to give the call to action and ask others to join them in the street.
Many have no idea who Indivisible, Mobilize, etc. are.


Sad.

ancianita

(42,096 posts)
12. If they don't take one, ask them what they watch on tv regularly. Then you'll know why they've checked out or
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:24 PM
7 hrs ago

if they can be persuaded to care and/or learn about who/what secures or endangers their way of life. A short conversation can have a positive ripple effect, because we never know how far our words can take others.

Or perhaps have a fact sheet ready with reasons why millions are protesting in thousands of protests across the nation.

Bread and Circuses

(1,223 posts)
17. Yes! I am very experienced in public speaking and talking with difficult people.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 11:05 PM
6 hrs ago

I explain the 2-3 top level issues .

I ask if they have children and are concerned about their future. Explain kitchen-table issues, etc,

I was doing phone calls in the spring and will start again. Did have a few aggressive people and I do know how to de-escalate .

I’m also a trained facilitator , I present a very calm, gentle, and agreeable image . And I do manage to wedge in my talking points . I think 90% did agree to take my flyers. I’ll be doing canvassing this month prior to the election.

I’ve been involved in community organizing, volunteer and advocacy causes my entire life.

Thanks for your advice. It’s appreciated ! 🌷

soldierant

(8,996 posts)
15. 30 mil would be wonderful.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:38 PM
6 hrs ago

But anything over 12 mil might do. No dictatorship in history has managed to survive if there was strong opposition from 3.5% of the population. 3.5% of our current population is around 11.9 mil.

Volaris

(11,092 posts)
8. I want an audio of either patrick stewart or lawrence fishburn reading this.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:14 PM
7 hrs ago

It's just what's in my head, I've had a couple drinks (yay it's friday!)

Volaris

(11,092 posts)
18. Yeah, but unless you wanna AI that shit and probably pay The Mouse a fistful of cash, that aint happening.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 11:07 PM
6 hrs ago

But to your point, yes JEJ was my first thought as well.

ancianita

(42,096 posts)
13. Thanks, less angrychair!
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:26 PM
7 hrs ago

When our diverse voices unite, the world will hear us. Even the pope has weighed in.

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