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highplainsdem

(58,433 posts) Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:36 PM 8 hrs ago

Ron Filipkowski: This is fascism.

This is fascism.
— Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2025-10-04T00:22:44.222Z

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Ron Filipkowski: This is fascism. (Original Post) highplainsdem 8 hrs ago OP

What about assholes groping the flag? GreenWave 8 hrs ago #1

I don't think tRump can create laws by Executive order, especially blatantly unconstitutional ones Bernardo de La Paz 8 hrs ago #2

Uh,oh. In my town, the Posse collects worn-out flags and marybourg 8 hrs ago #3

Yep, that's the way disposal of a US flag should be done. nt HappyH 8 hrs ago #4

Here's the Order Bernardo de La Paz 8 hrs ago #5

The SCOTUS long ago already said flag burning is protected speech. This order is clearly unconstitutional. tblue37 8 hrs ago #6

Such a quaint objection! Orrex 5 hrs ago #8

The scary object distraction. nt. BootinUp 8 hrs ago #7

GreenWave

(11,725 posts)

1. What about assholes groping the flag?

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:40 PM

8 hrs ago

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,227 posts)

2. I don't think tRump can create laws by Executive order, especially blatantly unconstitutional ones

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:45 PM

8 hrs ago

As I understand it, flag burning is settled law and protected speech.

marybourg

(13,545 posts)

3. Uh,oh. In my town, the Posse collects worn-out flags and

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:46 PM

8 hrs ago

burns them once a year, then buries the ashes. It’s considered “respectful disposal”.

HappyH

(111 posts)

4. Yep, that's the way disposal of a US flag should be done. nt

Reply to marybourg (Reply #3)

Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:49 PM

8 hrs ago

Bernardo de La Paz

(59,227 posts)

5. Here's the Order

Reply to highplainsdem (Original post)

Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:52 PM

8 hrs ago

https://www.federalregister.gov/documents/2025/08/28/2025-16616/prosecuting-burning-of-the-american-flag

He thinks he can make it apply by defining the action as inciting violence and hate speech or violating local ordinances restricting burning of objects in some circumstances. Those will be tough cases to prove but they don't care. They think that arrest and costly court cases are punishment enough even if the DoJ will almost always lose.

Notwithstanding the Supreme Court's rulings on First Amendment protections, the Court has never held that American Flag desecration conducted in a manner that is likely to incite imminent lawless action or that is an action amounting to “fighting words” is constitutionally protected. See Texas v. Johnson, 491 U.S. 397, 408-10 (1989).