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Swede

(37,460 posts)
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:15 AM 21 hrs ago

GOP Silent as Mormon Church Gunman Identified as 'Ultra MAGA' Trump Supporter

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As the nation reels from another devastating mass shooting—this time at a Mormon church in suburban Michigan—Republican leaders have remained notably silent following revelations that the gunman was a devoted Trump supporter who once proudly wore the label “Ultra MAGA.”

Thomas Jacob Sanford, a 40-year-old Marine veteran from Grand Blanc Township, plowed his pickup truck into a local Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints on Sunday before opening fire on worshippers. Ten people were shot. Four are dead. The church was later engulfed in flames after Sanford used an accelerant to set it ablaze. Two of the victims died from gunshot wounds, and two more bodies were recovered from the debris.

Sanford in a camouflage Trump 2020 shirt that read “Make Liberals Cry Again,” and a Trump-Pence sign still visible on his front lawn just months ago, the political implications became harder to ignore.

So far, Republican leaders have said nothing.

https://dailyboulder.com/gop-silent-as-mormon-church-gunman-identified-as-ultra-maga-trump-supporter/

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GOP Silent as Mormon Church Gunman Identified as 'Ultra MAGA' Trump Supporter (Original Post) Swede 21 hrs ago OP
Shocked! I tell you. Shocked! Liberal In Texas 21 hrs ago #1
im not AllaN01Bear 18 hrs ago #27
Kick BlueWaveNeverEnd 21 hrs ago #2
Republicans own this church massacre Champp 20 hrs ago #3
They own the majority of the violence that is happening around the country. OldBaldy1701E 20 hrs ago #7
Yes. The numbers tell the story Champp 19 hrs ago #24
I'm thinking MyOwnPeace 13 hrs ago #40
Bully bullets BattleRow 7 hrs ago #44
It's Magacide gopiscrap 16 hrs ago #32
So, which is less surprising? Paladin 20 hrs ago #4
Or their response? Delmette2.0 16 hrs ago #31
picture Be Leave On 11 hrs ago #41
And after they stampeded to get in front of TV cameras after Kirk's murder. tanyev 20 hrs ago #5
They were praying for some transgender connection. sop 19 hrs ago #17
Why would they? They approve! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 20 hrs ago #6
Oh no way! Kingofalldems 20 hrs ago #8
Was she trans too? durablend 20 hrs ago #12
Not seen on a billboard. usonian 20 hrs ago #9
I love that gopiscrap 16 hrs ago #33
Steal my graphic! Share! usonian 16 hrs ago #34
They are addicted to fear, hate and violence Clouds Passing 20 hrs ago #10
Figured he was hardcore MAGA the way Law enforcement was acting when they immediately learned of his MAGANESS. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 20 hrs ago #11
DTs response was telling Cosmocat 19 hrs ago #13
Is that source credible? It would be nice to see the actual evidence instead of just allusions to it. xocetaceans 19 hrs ago #14
Oh so they didn't find bullets with leftist writings this time? IronLionZion 19 hrs ago #15
The FBI didn't have time to plant them. It takes a while to engrave a shelll casing Ray Bruns 18 hrs ago #30
His younger brother, in a recent family photo, was sporting a t-shirt that bragged: wolfie001 19 hrs ago #16
"An act of targeted violence, though a motive has not been confirmed." lees1975 19 hrs ago #18
That seems likely Martin Eden 19 hrs ago #21
OmissionLie multigraincracker 19 hrs ago #19
It's not just the GOP mn9driver 19 hrs ago #20
When a MAGA Trump supporter does it, he's a lone wolf disturbed individual Martin Eden 19 hrs ago #22
Of course Rebl2 19 hrs ago #23
DOJ removes study on right wing violence surfered 19 hrs ago #25
What, nothing about rhetoric being to blame? Ohioboy 18 hrs ago #26
KICK orangecrush 18 hrs ago #28
Honestly it would be good for society NoPasaran 18 hrs ago #29
Brain Dead Hate Stuffed Psycho. Just Cha 15 hrs ago #35
It was clear to me that the media knew this a while ago ToxMarz 14 hrs ago #36
They're all deeply in denial Warpy 13 hrs ago #37
... Initech 13 hrs ago #38
It was "disappeared" out of the news like the antivax quack who shot up CDC buildings in Atlanta BumRushDaShow 13 hrs ago #39
I wouldn't be surprised if this guy watched college football on TV. Sibelius Fan 9 hrs ago #42
"There was a shooting? Must have been a patriot shooting at libtard Mormons. Flags at half staff for him." Wonder Why 8 hrs ago #43
From Republican leadership - not even two tots and one pear for the people who lost their lives 3Hotdogs 6 hrs ago #45

OldBaldy1701E

(9,195 posts)
7. They own the majority of the violence that is happening around the country.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:07 AM
20 hrs ago

They will never admit to that.

But, it is on them. They know it deep down. They also know that there will be a reckoning over this.

Because if there isn't, then we have learned nothing.

MyOwnPeace

(17,386 posts)
40. I'm thinking
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:27 PM
13 hrs ago

‘We’ve learned nothing……….’

Evidence: IQ-47 got re-elected, didn’t he?

Paladin

(31,701 posts)
4. So, which is less surprising?
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:51 AM
20 hrs ago

1. The fact that the gunman was "Ultra MAGA," or

2. The GOP's silence about it?

Apologies for hitting you with such a tough one...

Delmette2.0

(4,431 posts)
31. Or their response?
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 01:18 PM
16 hrs ago

1. Double down on blaming the liberals.

Or

2. Calling it fake news.

Be Leave On

(337 posts)
41. picture
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 06:30 PM
11 hrs ago

His picture shown on the linked Daily Boulder article makes him look like a very stable genius.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,196 posts)
11. Figured he was hardcore MAGA the way Law enforcement was acting when they immediately learned of his MAGANESS.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:30 AM
20 hrs ago

Not once did I hear broadcast media speak of the killer's political leanings in the aftermath of the killings, either.

Cosmocat

(15,294 posts)
13. DTs response was telling
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:41 AM
19 hrs ago

"Another attack on christianity"

They HAVE to be the victim, but clearly it was backloaded - not saying by whom.

xocetaceans

(4,281 posts)
14. Is that source credible? It would be nice to see the actual evidence instead of just allusions to it.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:42 AM
19 hrs ago
...

But as photos and social media posts surfaced showing Sanford in a camouflage Trump 2020 shirt that read “Make Liberals Cry Again,” and a Trump-Pence sign still visible on his front lawn just months ago, the political implications became harder to ignore.

...

https://dailyboulder.com/gop-silent-as-mormon-church-gunman-identified-as-ultra-maga-trump-supporter/





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IronLionZion

(50,026 posts)
15. Oh so they didn't find bullets with leftist writings this time?
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:44 AM
19 hrs ago


That's the only evidence that matters in this administration. Liberals love to write stuff on bullets.

wolfie001

(6,245 posts)
16. His younger brother, in a recent family photo, was sporting a t-shirt that bragged:
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:47 AM
19 hrs ago

"Proud to be a virgin" or something pathetic like that. It'd be laughable but that christian household produced a cold and calculating killer. Very representative of the hateful crowd that are part of the tRUMP regime. I suggest removing all "friends and family" from any future gatherings if they support these monsters.

lees1975

(6,786 posts)
18. "An act of targeted violence, though a motive has not been confirmed."
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:02 AM
19 hrs ago

Oh, let me help with that.

A Mormon shot Charlie Kirk.

Settled.

mn9driver

(4,785 posts)
20. It's not just the GOP
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:17 AM
19 hrs ago

This whole story disappeared from the headlines as soon as it became clear that the shooter was MAGA.

Martin Eden

(14,914 posts)
22. When a MAGA Trump supporter does it, he's a lone wolf disturbed individual
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:22 AM
19 hrs ago

When someone on the right is targeted, the entire "Left" and the Democratic Party are to blame -- even before any facts about the shooter are known.

Rebl2

(17,049 posts)
23. Of course
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 10:24 AM
19 hrs ago

not. They won’t ever say anything, unless it’s to say he’s mentally ill.

NoPasaran

(17,315 posts)
29. Honestly it would be good for society
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 11:01 AM
18 hrs ago

Honestly it would be good for society to accept that no political tendency has a monopoly on deranged lunatics with access to firearms.

Cha

(314,741 posts)
35. Brain Dead Hate Stuffed Psycho. Just
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 01:56 PM
15 hrs ago

like the Demented, Orange Slathered, Despot.

ToxMarz

(2,571 posts)
36. It was clear to me that the media knew this a while ago
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 02:57 PM
14 hrs ago

by the lack of reporting anything about it even happening, while they were still reporting daily about the Kirk shooter (which Trump would approve of). They knew they couldn't say what they knew about the mormon church attacker without raising the ire of Trump and his base, so they pretended like it didn't happen rather than dance around the story.

Warpy

(113,978 posts)
37. They're all deeply in denial
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:09 PM
13 hrs ago

except for the ones who thunder that the punk was an agent of gawd sent to punish (whomever for whatever, they're always real hazy on that part). MAGAts are so deeply convinced they're wearing the white hats (red caps to the contrary) that one of their own couldn't possibly have done this, there must be some mistake.

Um, no mistake, guys, we on the left have been steeped in the teachings of Gandhi, Mandela, and MLK, Jr. for so long it's in our DNA. Believers tend to follow hippie socialist Jesus who found a better way to live rather than Avenging Jehovah. Short term, most of these gun goons are going to be all yours.

MAGAts are having a lot of cognitive dissonance these days with Limbaugh still dead and King Wurst too demented to fill their empty heads with snappy slogans this term, they're all getting a little desperate.

Expect more of these guys to act out and expect a lot of them to act out against their own for lapses in orthodoxy.

BumRushDaShow

(161,068 posts)
39. It was "disappeared" out of the news like the antivax quack who shot up CDC buildings in Atlanta
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 04:17 PM
13 hrs ago

Sibelius Fan

(24,748 posts)
42. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy watched college football on TV.
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 08:29 PM
9 hrs ago

Those damn librul colleges are so powerful that even watching their football teams on TV can easily radicalize a good Xian over to the radical left. After that, a mass shooting is pretty much a foregone conclusion.

Wonder Why

(6,232 posts)
43. "There was a shooting? Must have been a patriot shooting at libtard Mormons. Flags at half staff for him."
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 09:12 PM
8 hrs ago

:sarcasm"

3Hotdogs

(14,625 posts)
45. From Republican leadership - not even two tots and one pear for the people who lost their lives
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 11:04 PM
6 hrs ago

on behalf of Charlie Kirk's 2nd Amendment rights.

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