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Tanuki

(16,092 posts)
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:08 PM Sunday

LDS shooter: Iraq vet Thomas Sanford

(Apologies for NYPost source)
https://nypost.com/2025/09/28/us-news/iraq-war-veteran-thomas-sanford-idd-as-gunman-who-attacked-grand-blanc-lds-church-killing-2-and-setting-it-ablaze/


"The deranged madman who killed at least two people and injured nine others at a Michigan Latter-day Saints church, torching the building and opening fire on fleeing congregants and their families, has been identified as 40-year-old Thomas Jacob Sanford, The Post can confirm.

Sanford, a US Marine veteran, according to his mom’s Facebook page, rammed his Chevy Silverado truck into the building before unleashing the assault on the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in Grand Blanc Township, Michigan, armed with a semi-automatic rifle."... (more)

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LDS shooter: Iraq vet Thomas Sanford (Original Post) Tanuki Sunday OP
Bet he was a raging leftist radical. nt intrepidity Sunday #1
looks trans Takket Sunday #2
There have been several claims he had a trump/Vance sign posted outside his house Coldwater Sunday #11
Pics Blue Full Moon Sunday #36
We won't know for sure.... SergeStorms Sunday #34
The rush to blame it on politics and one side. Yet the guy is probably like most of these shooters-- someone who needed Silent Type Sunday #3
You fail to understand that this is defensive on our part because the entire machinery of the current US government Crunchy Frog Sunday #19
It's been going on for years before trump. Besides, we don't have to be like GOPers. Silent Type Sunday #23
About time we fought fire with fire. Liberal In Texas Sunday #28
Because "keeping our powder dry"..... SergeStorms Sunday #35
The reason this is important Diraven Sunday #40
What a strange photo. I assume he's holding a child and the bird? hlthe2b Sunday #4
He's holding the kid who is holding the bird Kaleva Sunday #6
Noem enid602 Sunday #33
Too many hands. Ping Tung Sunday #7
Something does seem odd about the kid's hands/arms. Abolishinist Sunday #10
Because he is turned toward the left Kaleva Sunday #12
He is holding the child belly to belly sarisataka Sunday #14
Thanks, looking at it again I see his head is turned, now it makes sense. Abolishinist Sunday #18
I only see 4 Kaleva Sunday #13
Hmmmm Traildogbob Sunday #5
NC shooter was a white vet as well. Mental health issues, availability of weapons, anger... 617Blue Sunday #8
This psycho is a one-man army Coldwater Sunday #9
Sounds Rebl2 Sunday #15
Or it's in retaliation for the killing of Kirk Kaleva Sunday #16
This is pretty much how I pictured he'd look Siwsan Sunday #17
I refuse to accept anything from the NYComPost at face value... regnaD kciN Sunday #20
It's kind of difficult to do when n you have an image like this JI7 Sunday #22
So I'm guessing we won't be hearing much about this anymore JI7 Sunday #21
CORRECT Skittles Sunday #29
Killers often begin with animals IbogaProject Sunday #24
ugh, anyone who finds killing entertaining Skittles Sunday #30
Aw, poor bird. calimary Sunday #25
When it's a straight white dude it's a 'deranged madman' SeattleVet Sunday #26
All those mean lefties trans rhetorics are making the gun toting magats react by shooting up Liberal In Texas Sunday #31
Trump's "crackdown on crime" can't do shit about Klarkashton Sunday #27
Right? intheflow Sunday #39
Get used to it folks, it's only going to get worse. With criminals running the government, the courts, the JD, people ImNotGod Sunday #32
I do think it's connected to the NC shooting. Blue Full Moon Sunday #37
This message was self-deleted by its author DownriverDem Sunday #38
Another case of--MAGACIDE! Brought to you by Trump, Inc. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Sunday #41
I wonder how many learn to kill Tree Lady Sunday #42
Aren't ya proud, sonny! choie Sunday #43

Coldwater

(240 posts)
11. There have been several claims he had a trump/Vance sign posted outside his house
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:42 PM
Sunday

but after a few false claims already this morning/afternoon I'm a bit suspicious until I actually see the sign.

SergeStorms

(19,789 posts)
34. We won't know for sure....
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:33 PM
Sunday

until the paint dries on the shell casings Kash Patel is supplying to the media.

Silent Type

(11,266 posts)
3. The rush to blame it on politics and one side. Yet the guy is probably like most of these shooters-- someone who needed
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:18 PM
Sunday

mental health diagnosis and treatment, though not in his 20s like most shooters since Oswald.

Crunchy Frog

(28,073 posts)
19. You fail to understand that this is defensive on our part because the entire machinery of the current US government
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:59 PM
Sunday

is trying to paint this and other similar events as some vast left wing terrorist conspiracy. And they have stated their intent to go after any individual or group that they can paint as "supporting left wing violence". And they mean us. So yes, we're going to point it out when these perpetrators of violence don't fit the profile or the narrative that they're pushing.

Diraven

(1,614 posts)
40. The reason this is important
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 08:20 PM
Sunday

Is that Trump and his goons are just waiting for one more attack they can pin on an "indoctrinated left wing radical" to start their violent fantasy crackdown on liberals, Democrats, trans people, and anyone who supports or funds them as "terrorists". It's a literal powder keg, and unfortunately we have to keep diffusing it. And unfortunately they'll probably get their way eventually because it doesn't matter how many right wing radical murders happen they will conveniently ignore because they don't fit their agenda, before that one that they can blame on us.

hlthe2b

(111,514 posts)
4. What a strange photo. I assume he's holding a child and the bird?
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:20 PM
Sunday

Perhaps without the blurring of the face (?) it would be less bizarre.

Abolishinist

(2,784 posts)
10. Something does seem odd about the kid's hands/arms.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:38 PM
Sunday

His arms seem too long. And why is he in such a twisted position, holding the bird with his left hand vs. the right.

sarisataka

(22,013 posts)
14. He is holding the child belly to belly
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:48 PM
Sunday

The child is rotating their body to face the camera. At first glance it isn't obvious due to the camo. Once the positioning is deciphered, there is nothing wrong with the proportions

Abolishinist

(2,784 posts)
18. Thanks, looking at it again I see his head is turned, now it makes sense.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:58 PM
Sunday

Last edited Sun Sep 28, 2025, 07:41 PM - Edit history (1)

Traildogbob

(11,902 posts)
5. Hmmmm
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:21 PM
Sunday

Duck Dynasty Fox freak? If it looks, walks and smells like a Duck….eliminate all religion that is not the Megan Kelly White one.
Petal Will recover a bullet with a detailed radical lib confession on the casing, like those skilled Asians write a book on a grain of rice.

617Blue

(2,053 posts)
8. NC shooter was a white vet as well. Mental health issues, availability of weapons, anger...
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:29 PM
Sunday

Siwsan

(27,730 posts)
17. This is pretty much how I pictured he'd look
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 04:54 PM
Sunday

Classic Burton resident. Lots of good people in Burton. Too many MAGAt, though.

regnaD kciN

(27,309 posts)
20. I refuse to accept anything from the NYComPost at face value...
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 05:13 PM
Sunday

…but note that, normally, their “unconfirmed information” tends to echo the MAGA line, so the fact that they’re not identifying the assailant as a “trans ANTIFA Marxist” may be telling.

JI7

(92,708 posts)
22. It's kind of difficult to do when n you have an image like this
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 05:24 PM
Sunday

What will happen is they will just stop talking about it and pretend it never happened just as they do with Colorado and the Pennsylvania shooting that killed multiple law enforcement recently.

Skittles

(167,742 posts)
29. CORRECT
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:16 PM
Sunday

only if the shooter is trans or an immigrant (or if the victim is a racist celebrity)

Skittles

(167,742 posts)
30. ugh, anyone who finds killing entertaining
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:17 PM
Sunday

gotta love the ones who photograph their victory over......a duck

SeattleVet

(5,747 posts)
26. When it's a straight white dude it's a 'deranged madman'
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:08 PM
Sunday

If it's anyone else they somehow transform into a trans dem leftist.

Liberal In Texas

(15,651 posts)
31. All those mean lefties trans rhetorics are making the gun toting magats react by shooting up
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:19 PM
Sunday

a church or a mall or a rightwing podcaster or ...

See it's actually the radical left. (Radical Left = Anybody against Trump)


Klarkashton

(4,125 posts)
27. Trump's "crackdown on crime" can't do shit about
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:10 PM
Sunday

These mass murders.

I'll bet trump says nothing much about this one.

intheflow

(29,750 posts)
39. Right?
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 07:23 PM
Sunday

The real violence isn’t happening in blue cities, it’s happening in rural heartland kind of places. And it sure as hell isn’t being done by immigrants, asylum seekers, POC, women, or antifa.

ImNotGod

(1,155 posts)
32. Get used to it folks, it's only going to get worse. With criminals running the government, the courts, the JD, people
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:20 PM
Sunday

are being groomed to be lawless, take what they want, do what they want. We are watching the breakdown of our society and no one can stop it.

Blue Full Moon

(2,904 posts)
37. I do think it's connected to the NC shooting.
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 06:53 PM
Sunday

Both 40 yr old Iraq war vets.
Reminds me of the Las Vegas and New Orleans attacks.

Response to Tanuki (Original post)

choie

(6,147 posts)
43. Aren't ya proud, sonny!
Sun Sep 28, 2025, 09:53 PM
Sunday

I killed a bird that had no way to defend himself. Look at that blood! Aren't guns great?

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